oh... it's very simple, if the dog bark at me, i will simply get a stick and walap it. as simple as that. i dont have to act gentlemen to a dog.

If you behave like this, you will not improve when you reach 41.

good one, i said i will mirror to you. you should be hearing in it yourself.

I have no problem keep walap the dog if the dog keep chasing me and dont let go.

Please refrain from personal issue, the topic is discussing about Compugates specifically, personal issue shouldn't bring up to here.

Thanks for the cooperation.

Sorry to say, you have accounting rules mix up.

Not SC or Bursa's job to keep Compugates accounts.

if Compugates does not follow the proper rules, they got warning, suspension and facing delisting.

Compugates has to do the proper jobs, not Bursa or SC.


This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Jul 19 2009, 04:36 PM

The conclusion is ZPOW does not know accounting enough to have a meaningful discussion with him on that.

So, lets move on to the insider information, mm plans, etc who have been repeatedly mentioned without elaboration by Omione, ZPOW, Tan Sri, Goh, etc.

dont make false statement here. who said SC or Bursa keep accounts?

they trace their accounts when shortlisted. this is new system. read the news.

Whether using an accounting concept to show how healthy a company is.... or any other concept or proof to show how good is a economy, I guess finanical crisis shouldn't happen at the first place, if everything can be predicted using strategies, fundamentals, of course by then everything bad can be avoided for sure, don't we agree?

Because we have years of education, a crisis, as we are human being, for those studied MASTER, PROFESSOR, and guess what, unable to prevent these happening... About the nature dissaster, we are not even reach there to prevent.

Same case with compugates, we can try our best to know this company, from top to toe, but it doesn't mean, it is going to be the best or worst forever. IMO, it is the Directors' intention that work out what is the best plan and best time for the company to improve.

You may ask yourself, 2009 is the best time to get a project? Any fundamentals or concept supports that this project will ever be paid on time? I mean ON TIME, not 6 months later or 2 years later.

This post has been edited by stevenglobal: Jul 19 2009, 08:59 PM

this is a a good year to get project. bcos of the 80% guaranteed scheme. alot of company is able to run new project especially those "linked" company which intend to waste the bail out budget. they started April and will end on September. so to get project, it is within these few months. If over September still cannot get any project, it means the company is not effective and no power link.

hopefully the 3rd august heat and the project can be captured before September. if over september still no good news, we must collectively ...

This post has been edited by ZPOW: Jul 19 2009, 05:44 PM

What an interesting read - your analyses, your knowledge, your rebuffs, your retorts, your sarcasms. I had a good laugh reading all those posts. Thank you.

I am still holding on. I may trade up and down. I still need one missing information. I still believe as far as Compugates is concerned, whether the price goes up or down depends not on goodwill write-off, or even earnings. The one missing is: What is the MM to do?

Anyone who can provide me information on that and convince me of its reliability, you are great. If you don't want to publish it, you can send it to my mailbox.

Economy goes thru boom and bust. That is unavoidable under unfettered capitalism and is part of the economic process of resource allocation. Irrational exuberance took over when Americans conitnued spending more than they earned as capital gain in housing made up the short fall in their coffer. The brighest people made most of it thru securitisation. Then enough people woke up that things became unsustainable and all ended in tears and the short sellers gained most in the process. That is economic cycle at work. Nothing exceptional.

On compugates, it needs to earn RM100m net profit (2b*(7-2sen) to justify its market value of 7sen. Of course, market is a forward looking platform, if it can move in that right direction, RM50m is what it takes to safely project its future profitability. Even when things recover, it may take a minimum of 5 years for compugt to make Rm50m cumulatively from now.

Lets wait for 5 years and see if compugt can make Rm50m cumulatively form now, if it can last that long.

you can talk to the resigned person... he is available on facebook.

This post has been edited by ZPOW: Jul 19 2009, 07:02 PM

Since you are putting it that way, just wonder if you could notice which BANK last the shortest, and which BANK is going to last the longest? We have been seeing merging among the BANK lately, don't we?

Last warning before I start closure of thread until you guys behave/learn how to post.

Don't force me to suspend because I really don't like to do it. Wants to counter something, counter intellectually, not emotionally.

ok. Sorry for putting strong words. Back to compugates, my opinion, HOLD.
Extra cash play FOREX. < RM1000 also can.

This post has been edited by stevenglobal: Jul 19 2009, 09:05 PM

Argh.. I hate MODs.....

Stanley , the mods is closing ur thread .. defense hehe h...

Monday will know the outcome .. why want to argue .... please note .. in early june , lots of people post in this post and saying compugates will free fall and go bankrupt and etc .. but until now the price is not dropping so much since june ..
during that time i bought the share is when the goh got margin issue .. but i still go and bought it .. and the margin issue already settle .. that is the first break through ....

so its time for the director to do some strategy and restructring works .. about the celcom deal terminate .. i will said , it is politically related .. why the hell the contract not terminate in march .. why after the guy become 100 days pm .. the deal terminate .. dont tell me because of the commision or blah blah blah .. this can be discuss and can be settle .. remember the land that compugates want to take over and buy .. the owner is umno assemblyman in perak .. the deal not on yet due to sc investigate ....

but one thing i believe .. the director will not commit suicide by selling in pressure and let the share price drop until 3-4-5 cents .. i dont want to post any thing related to companies that happen previously as i already post ..

as for now .. compugates is still the better choice for me rather than talam , time , pmind and others stocks which is below 10 cents ..

if really there is no more support from the public on the share .. the last bullet is to pass a resolution to used compugates to buy back the share ....

so those who scared and need the money urgently .. just let it go ..

else stay hold ...

ZPOW is great person .. ominone , smartly, steven, stnaley, takashi ... we have been posted since june during the margin crisis and we know how the compugates can perform and the level of confidence .. and for ckc .. i think what u do is to "pour cold water" at this forum without giving any solid stats ... you can free to give any views but you should not always giving bad feedback on this topic, i am sure there are good policy/financial statement and etc to share ..

myself , and i believe the rest monitor this stocks every minutes/hour everyday since june.. we know how the stocks behave ..

ckc ,do u mind telling me what counters u holding now ..

This post has been edited by MoonRider: Jul 19 2009, 10:07 PM

hahaa.. =.= u guys really good in debating .... it's weekend man... utilize ur time somewhere else... back to the market tomorrow.... no matter what is ur conclusion or decision now.. doesnt really help... really... coz u can trade on sunday.... u might have an idea now... but u might change ur mind tomorrow morning... peace.... no hard feeling....

ok make it clear, no matter how talented u r and u r able prove the mistake or the potential of the particular counter....it isnt the FACT....just a forecast and prediction..the final result always gonna wait till it HAPPEN... so u know right or wrong...

infact .. actually there isnt right or wrong... coz it could simply say that, compugt will fallen to 0.03 (as long as still listed) then..some parties "win" .... forecasted the price drop.. BUT..... maybe the price will rebound in future... another 10 months to 20 cents (maybe.. who knows) so... another parties win too... coz rebounded..

see.. what's the point we arguing here.... the only matter is... do u really wanna put ur hard earn $$$ on this counter... it might goes down to 0.03 or wrost 0.01.. in the otherhand, i might shoop up to 0.20.. just a matter of time ***just my personal point of view, do not treat it as a professional advice or offical info.

eg: genting was once drop to Rm 3.21 where i brought mine.... and it drop from RM 8 to RM3.xx so... if u cut lost.. then u lose ur $$$... if u leverage then u might gain....for compugt's case, ... either u willing to lose how much on this counter....if u set a cut lose point... no matter what the outcome is, u have decided how much $$$ to lose..

for me.. worst come to worst i have to cut lose at a lower price if thing really really bad... (lead to PN or delisted)..

anyway.. take it easy guys.... prepare for battle tomorrow... forum is a place for us to gain couragous... kindly pls dont involve any personal issue whcih might spoil ur mood... enjoy urself... take care


best regards

Takashi

This post has been edited by Takashi: Jul 19 2009, 10:08 PM

forget about this ZPOW.... pretend to be big boss. 3 company? if you really doing that well... i dont think you will need to boast here.

This post has been edited by ABC2020: Jul 19 2009, 10:26 PM

ya... i just pretend... my salary only RM1500... driving a skuter... nothing to do mah... happy?

by the way... just had my dinner at bintang revolving... had the lobster chicken RM60... had a bottle of red wine RM110... the best part was the desert... hot banana ice-cream...

This post has been edited by ZPOW: Jul 19 2009, 10:32 PM