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seantang
post Jan 16 2010, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(chess_gal @ Jan 16 2010, 06:51 PM)
Another big 4, forensic, apparently they only hire seniors and have to start all over again to do vouching and tedious work. At the moment, if I am not wrong, KP pays the highest as compared to the other Big 4s. My friend went over to Pw and to only have her pay cut by $500!

If you are not in the running to be partner, then there are equivalent jobs in commercial that pay better than Ms and SMs, even EDs but with less stress, better conditions and shorter hours.

However, if your dream is to stay in the Big4, then live your dream lor tongue.gif For me, once I travelled on biz class on biz, don't have to share room or taxi pool, 5 star hotels as company policy... I wondered how I put up with those years in the kiamsap Big4. Never again.

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Yup I am on Linkedin. But didnt update it very often.

The Sg recruiters there are pretty active. Worth putting in a bit of effort into your profile. 1/3 of my connections are Sg recruiters. Through them, I get roughly 1 new job lead every couple of weeks. Good way to keep up with the job market.


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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Jan 16 2010, 06:43 PM)
It's not the cultural differences, but the group of friends, family and just general familiarity with living in KL which I feel are more important to me.

Ya, I felt like that last time. I didn't want to lose my friends and family by moving away. Then what happened was that they moved away from me instead, to take opportunities elsewhere. Or got married, wife don't let them come out etc. That's when I realised, it's a constantly changing world out there. Nothing stays the same forever.

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And the cars. I'll seriously miss driving had I go down to singapore. No cars = no random drive to some place for a cheap thrill

Doesn't mean you can't own one. Sacrifice a bit of savings, get a car. The remaining savings will still be more than you could ever save back in KL.

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My present job gives me at times nearly 2 months of leave a year, compared to the standard days in Singapore.. (audit lol), so that's not something I'm sure I can give up too!

2 months is not the standard in Malaysia either, right?

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And mamaks are less popular in singapore, and I don't see much of them around when I went down. Oh, and you don't have those eateries with huge projector TV screens outside, with tables taking up all the parking spaces! (I'm a fan of outdoor chillaxing)

Mamaks not very popular. But you have all the sports bars, F1 pubs, al fresco cafes along the riverbanks, quays etc. To me... don't seek to transplant KL to Sg. When in Rome, do as the Romans do. The Romans definitely have fun too.

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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Jan 17 2010, 11:40 AM)
if i am a msian getting hired to work in sg, send to another country which is not sg or msia... if u dun call that expat i dunno wat u call that

Foreign worker?

In a commercial environment, whether you're an expat or not is dictated by the compensation terms of foreign service, not by the fact that you are working away from your home country.

Typically an expat gets:

- higher of local or foreign salary at same salary level, some companies have an international salary level for all expats
- tax protection to ensure you do not pay more tax that you would have, if you remained in your home country
- either cost of living allowance or hardship allowance (depending on whether you go from 1st world to 3rd world or vice versa)
- home leave (airfare and accomodation)
- full accomodation and transport
- family benefits (children's international school, entertainment allowance for spouse & children, housekeeping)

If someone gets that, then he's an expat. Otherwise, he's a foreign worker.

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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Jan 17 2010, 01:03 PM)
accomodation, transportation, n food all paid for with company's card... allowance which doubles my pay in sg.. tax is paid in sg... no family benefits, no family...

expat then?

In terms of accommodation... hotel or serviced apartment? If you're leasing a place yourself, is housekeeping provided?

Transport... are you getting a car? If you're going to 3rd world countries like Indonesia, Phillipines and Thailand where driving is unsafe, they should be providing you with a driver as well.

Allowance doubles your pay... no offense, but what's your pay in the first place? The typical expat cost of living or hardship allowance in my company is ~US$3-5K for non managers. But not many non managers are expatriated. The managers and directors usually draw US$10-15K for allowances, including a lifestyle allowance.

No home leave? How long is your assignment anyway? Generally expat assignments are 3 to 5 years in duration.

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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Jan 17 2010, 05:10 PM)
hotel for mumbai... service apartment in zhangjiagang... hotel i think it is provided, in china not too sure

india d country head will arrange transport.. in china no idea yet, colleage will drive

nah, not that high... will be paid in sgd.. 2.6 in basic 2k for 2 weeks allowance in india.. when india is done, have to negotiate again

home leave? dunno... india might tAke up to 6 months... china is permanent posting

2 wks Sg, 2 wks India means you're a frequent traveller lah, not expat.

Remember those job advertisements that say 50% travel... well, you're it. You're going to spend a LOT of time in airports, especially on the Indian side.

Since you're travelling on biz, accommodation and transport of course taken care of. The 2K allowance is a nice extra though.

Having said that, if my company wanted to pay me an extra 2K to spend 50% of my time in India... I wouldn't want to. India's really one of the worse places to work in, if you're not from India. Water's dirty, food's spicy... and dirty, diarrhea's a constant companion, driving is impossible, public transport is impossible, the slums, the cleanliness, the security... good luck, man. Sucks to be you tongue.gif

If China's going to be a permanent posting after India... better make sure to get all the offers of accommodation, transport, allowances and tax equalisation in writing. From my experience, full expat packages are simply not given to people who only earn 2.6K a month. The rental alone in ZJG itself will be more than your salary already. They can simply offer a higher salary there and get a local to do the same thing.

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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Jan 17 2010, 07:56 PM)
depends... for a fresh start it is not too bad.. well, if thats wat u think.. good 4 u... stay at home

That's the thing... I'm not home. I'm just like you... working in a country that's not my home country. Only difference is, Singapore's my India.

Anyway, good luck to you. You're going to need it in Mumbai.

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QUOTE(crapp0 @ Jan 18 2010, 06:21 PM)
Anybody have a generic description of a singaporean or either gender?

What you asking? rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(chess_gal @ Jan 18 2010, 11:58 PM)
Yes, foreigner can buy landed property subject to Gov's approval, but exception given to sentosa cove. This rule is rather new but it is a well-known fact that foreigners cannot buy landed property. Chances of approval is very low and there are a lot of paper work involve as well. Prices are usually inflated by 10-20%.

Sentosa Cove?

Ummm... there's actually no exception for Sentosa Cove... ie therefore, there's no exception for any Sg landed property. Sentosa Cove is just so expensive that the govt announced that approvals for foreigners will be fast tracked to 48hrs or less. For some of the pricier units, it has practically been pre-approved... assuming the foreign buyer passes the security background check, of course.

My boss stays in a 9000sq foot bungalow on Treasure Island and his rental is 36K per month. Assuming a 3% rental return, the property value works out to be 14million bucks... so, it's not really that "u can buy landed properties... u just have to know where..." It's not kangtow thing lah. It's more like a how rich are you thing.

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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Jan 19 2010, 10:30 AM)
@Seantang. Hmm, that works out to about SG$1,666per sq ft...  that's pretty good considering premium luxury condominiums in KL already go for RM1-2k per sq ft, especially those around KLCC. Quite comparable IMO.

It's actually very good because luxury condos are only 1500-2500sqft. They get a good per sqft price because the total amount paid is still restricted by the limited area.

However, to get luxury condo type per sqft prices for property with large areas is exceptional.

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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Jan 19 2010, 11:15 AM)
I'm surprised with the rental yields though. Is 3% the norm? (cos if it is, I think M'sian rental yields are better, although it's compensated by lousier tenants with more self-destructive behavior)

Also, any RPGT/capital gains taxes?

I think right now, it's somewhere between 3-5%. Rental yield is higher for HDB because of the price controls. Lower for freehold property because the tenant will not distinguish between FH and leasehold.

In any case, FD in Sg is less than 1%. Savings is practically zero.

No RPGT or CGT if you're not in the business of buying & selling property.

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QUOTE(adrian_17 @ Jan 19 2010, 08:13 PM)
hey just wanna find out how is the sales job like in singapore?is it difficult?what abt the job?shud i take it??thanks

Comparing all sales job in Singapore with all sales job outside Singapore, I think it's fine. Not difficult unless the sales job is not in Singapore and also not outside Singapore. I don't think you should take it because your qualification and experience is more for sales job outside Singapore, not in Singapore. Hope that helps wink.gif
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QUOTE(rockdaman @ Jan 21 2010, 01:49 PM)
i just got my PR and my CPF statement only consist of past 3 months is it enough to qualify for applying?

If you just got your PR, what are you applying for?

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QUOTE(Lester1987 @ Jan 21 2010, 06:05 PM)
hi, any of you know where i can learn korean and japanese language (part time) in singapore? also do any uni in SG offer part time degree course?
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Are you talking about learning to speak the language from zero, or are you talking about academic or linguistic studies of the language? If it is the former, then you are talking about normal language classes... ie. Mr Brown's class in Mind Your Language. No uni gives you a degree just for learning to speak the language, or else I would hold degrees in English, Malay, Cantonese and 4 Letter Words.


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QUOTE(tsm @ Jan 21 2010, 08:26 PM)
hello all sing bro and sis,

Just curious how much the range would be the salary for a Master graduate? I know that it would be different for different industry. I just want a guide. Thanks^0^
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if you have no experience, the pay is the same as for a fresh bachelors' degree holder. But you'll stand a better chance of getting noticed because you have something extra.

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QUOTE(Jurlique @ Jan 21 2010, 11:08 PM)
Who got their CNY leave disapproved by their superior or cant obtain any bus/air ticket back to their hometown during CNY?

Nope.. I'm cool tongue.gif My flight to-from Ipoh all booked, and I'll be home for 2 weeks. Have to work from home quite a few of those days though.

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QUOTE(crapp0 @ Jan 21 2010, 11:49 PM)
Bought my bus ticket on the eve of CNY. One guy in my office told me thats a big no-no but i'm not so concern about it. Since the eve of cny for him is a scared time for all of the family.

What so scary about travelling on CNY eve?

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No need to have Msia "reserve funds" lah. Just buy some good dividend shares, and everytime you go home, there's a dividend cheque waiting for you in the mail.
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QUOTE(Gary Denzel @ Jan 23 2010, 08:23 AM)
Sean, got u but need some study and knowledge about this kind of stuff as i'm not this field's expertise.. rclxub.gif
For me, just dump into saving >> FD.....saving >> FD...my mum also asking me to do some investment instead place into the same bucket.. vmad.gif
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If you're not comfortable with shares, get principal guaranteed investments like Amanah Wawasan 2020. 6-8 percent return each year. Btw, the Dow Jones suffered another big drop last night. next Monday might be a good time to buy as people have a kneejerk reaction and sell. But buy a bit at a time. Don't use up all your bullets at one go. The correction might turn out to see quite severe and prolonged.
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QUOTE(crapp0 @ Jan 23 2010, 09:04 AM)
So early you wake up on a weekend?

As long as I get my 8 hours beauty sleep, I'm good already. Don't really need to sleep in, unless I go to bed really late.


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QUOTE(crapp0 @ Jan 23 2010, 08:33 AM)
2.39? so low? i thought for the time being till this year it wont dipped below 2.4 since malaysias economy is in the gutter and najib has a non-existent economic plan.

Long term the MYR and SGD will move against each other relative to how they have moved against the USD, EUR and JPY. The long term trend will reflect their comparative strength.

But short term rates will be influenced by the demand and supply of MYR and SGD by Singaporeans and Malaysians. There are many more Malaysians and Singaporeans earning SGD who want to buy MYR during CNY, than there are Singaporeans and Malaysian earning MYR who want to buy SGD.


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QUOTE(wseng @ Jan 23 2010, 09:45 AM)
seantang,

means your are only saying that this rate's fluctuations are caused by the CNY exchange to RM only ?

I'm saying that for a lot of markets are affected by the CNY phenomenon because it introduces a very large swing into the demand supply balance. Not only currency.

Holiday seasons are typically not the best times to make assessments about the movement trend of any market.
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QUOTE(tsm @ Jan 23 2010, 10:04 AM)
Haiz, I still got about 6 months to go. I need to think where I would like to work. Anyway, I prefer Singapore but some of my friends ask me to stay in Australia. I really don't know how to make decision. Thinking.............................

I've been fortunate enough to work in Melbourne and Singapore.

If I wanted to save money (ie. buy stuff, property, invest etc), then no brainer that Singapore (or HK) is the best choice. The pay levels are roughly the same for professionals, but the tax rate in Sg is much lower (even lower in HK). At the end of the day (after tax), you get to save a lot more in Singapore. Having said that, cars are much more affordable in Australia.

If you want to stay after you retire, then Australia's the only choice. The life is much more relaxed, lots of facilities for old folks, free services & entertainment, fresh air and open spaces, lots of things/places to see and most importantly, you don't get the feeling that it costs money to do everything and anything, unlike Singapore.

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QUOTE(Jurlique @ Jan 23 2010, 10:44 PM)
OK, may i know who here came from KL?

I feel that many Malaysians who work in Spore usually came from rural areas in Malaysia such as Alor Setar, Sandakan, Sibu, Gopeng, Sungai Petani, Muar, Bahau etc.

So far, I see very very few Malaysians came from KL, Selangor or Penang. Why ya?

Take a trip down to Golden Mile in the evening and just observe how many buses and passengers go to KL, vs going elsewhere to other destinations.

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