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 Stock Market VERSION 27, Feng Shui? Sentiment? Goreng?

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David_Brent
post May 21 2009, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(That @ May 21 2009, 04:58 PM)
Yo, did you get the WCT ? .. i plan to get more ..
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Nope...another error ... mad.gif
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post May 21 2009, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(chyaw @ May 21 2009, 05:17 PM)
For TM shareholders, below is latest news on its profit for Q1...

5:12PM  TM  1Q net profit 36.241 million (decreased 93.68%)
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How on earth is it possible to run a monopoly and turn in dreadful figures like that?

Quite an achievement when you think about it.... hmm.gif
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post May 21 2009, 10:41 PM

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At last!

Some good buying opportunities may be coming our way rclxms.gif
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post May 21 2009, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(duneyip2 @ May 21 2009, 11:04 PM)
my lecturer told me that the Msia index has been increasing lately and it MIGHT be one of the repititions of what happened in 1997 where it reach to a high point and just boom drop down. He continued that maybe few foreign speculator or investor has come in to kacau our market and push it up then pull the plug when they think its time.
Pls correct me if i'm wrong.
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Sounds to me like your lecturer has a very vivid imagination.... brows.gif
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post May 22 2009, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ May 22 2009, 03:38 PM)
Oh, you were talking about the warrants. I thought you were talking about the mother share.  icon_rolleyes.gif

Yeah, many of us regretted selling so early into the unsuspected rally....
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Yeah...me too. Got on at 1.59 and got off at 1.92 doh.gif
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post May 22 2009, 06:59 PM

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Anyone know why UEM Land shoot up today?

And, more importantly, how do I find out it's going to do that before it does it next time? hmm.gif
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post May 22 2009, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(omores @ May 22 2009, 07:27 PM)
Because I sold it.  tongue.gif  That's the most accurate way of knowing when a stock will go up.  tongue.gif
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I thought it was because Mr. Najib stopped off in Iskandar for lunch on his way to see Mr. Lee in Singapore.

Blimey! If his visit can do that to UEM Land, I wish he'd stop off for a Zinger at KFC, buy the odd ticket on Air Asia or sign up for hotmail on DiGi brows.gif
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post May 22 2009, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(kb2005 @ May 22 2009, 09:34 PM)
You mean they just talk and may not be true ?
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What? Politicians talking - and it may not be true??

Can't be true, can it??

I'm shocked by the very idea!


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post May 22 2009, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(moorish @ May 22 2009, 10:08 PM)
so far since I started trading....now +500 oni
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When did you start, if I may know?
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post May 23 2009, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ May 23 2009, 04:18 PM)
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Gonna start the "dividend" subtopic either today or tomorrow. hope you guys can help.  smile.gif
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Look forward to reading that and contributing.

Will it be different from the 'High Dividend Counters' thread already on the forum?
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post May 23 2009, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ May 23 2009, 08:39 PM)
No leh. It is the basics of "Dividend and stocks" which would include information like entitlement date, ex-date, dividend and par value, what happens to stock prices around the dividend date, how to play around the dividend date, the nature of dividend stocks, etc.  wink.gif
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Ooooh!! That sounds more like it.
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Who's interested in 3% or 4% divvies when we can have that information drool.gif
Look forward to seeing the new thread/sub-forum.
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post May 23 2009, 11:34 PM

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Interesting article:

When it comes to stock market performance, history is a better guide to what's next, rather than current economic conditions, unemployment or gloomy pessimists.

Markets worldwide have risen sharply. The FTSE 100 Index is up 24pc, the Dow Jones Index up 26pc and, remarkably, US financials are up 50pc.

This recovery has not impressed pessimists. Take, for example, this summary of US financial woes in the Peking Review: "Throughout the United States, from New York to Los Angeles, from the auto city of Detroit to the steel city of Pittsburg, the picture is one of declining production, depressed markets, sharply rising unemployment, chaotic money markets and slumping stock exchanges. The country is in the grip of a deepening economic crisis, the worst since the Second World War."

Sums it up doesn't it? Or does it? The extract was printed on February 7 – 1975.

History tells us that when sentiment is mired in despondency, equities are shunned and mountains of cash hoarded. And history also tells us that at points of maximum despondency, elements are in place for contrarian buy signals. Levels of cash on the sidelines from experienced investors are significant.

A US asset allocation survey in early March showed that experienced investors held 46pc in cash – a record. The last two occasions when deposits were almost as high – 38pc in 1991 and 39pc in 2002 – were the previous two best occasions to have bought equities since November 1987.

Pessimists, however, will argue that studying the past 20-odd years is too short for accurate comparison. So let's take 40. Even they must concede there is a correlation over time between levels of extreme pessimism or optimism and future movements of stock markets. History shows the more extreme the pessimism, the more bullish the buying signal, and vice versa.

Over the past 40 years, the sole occasion when extreme pessimism was as high as it was in early March 2009, was December 1974. That proved to be a significant buying opportunity despite the horrendous economic conditions in Britain and high levels of pessimism. Over the following 12 months the UK stock market rose 149pc, including reinvested income.

But this evidence may not be enough for cynical experts or confused investors. They'll argue it doesn't cover the Depression years of the Thirties. So let's go back 200 years. We can study the performance of the Standard & Poor's (S&P) 500 Index in the US, comparing it with two valuable sentiment and rate-of-change indicators.

This highlights four major financial crises coinciding with maximum extreme pessimism among experts and investors. The first three were in 1807, 1857 and 1932. The fourth? March 2009. Each crisis proved a buying opportunity for long-term equity investors.

Here's another statistic also covering the past 200 years. US analysts Hays Advisory published a chart showing US stock market rolling 10-year average total returns from 1810 to the end of last year. Findings show four previous occasions when the rolling 10-year returns were close to, or below zero, as they are today. On each occasion, the following decade saw total returns from stock market investments close to 20pc per annum.

This time it's different, isn't it? I'm glad to say history shows it never is different. Research by US analysts Ned Davis Research comparing similar periods of heavily falling stock markets in severe economic conditions predicted the period from October to February would represent a stock market bottoming, followed by a sharp increase. They believe the recession end will be sooner than the majority expect, and as a consequence their prediction is a continuing global bull market rally.

By nature, analysts are not optimists. They're cold fish, unemotional, so they don't get carried away on waves of euphoria or despondency. They stick to numbers.

And the numbers are reassuring. In every previous bear market, in the final bottoming phase, some sectors always outperform as others tank. After the stock market bottoms, sector performance dramatically swaps places. And that's exactly what's happened in the past 12 weeks.

I appreciate there's still economic uncertainty, job losses and worried business people. But stock markets lead, not follow. Economic indicators suggest blue skies ahead. Don't stay in the cold.
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post May 24 2009, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(alanaw @ May 24 2009, 08:50 PM)
Hmph.... Right now i am holding 200 lots of KNM & 200 lots of SAAG. STill have rm9000 left to invest. Right now i m opting between LCL & ZELAN. Can only afford 100lots for 1 of these two counter.

ANY ADVISE?? WHICH IS BETTER IN TERM OF POTENTIAL GROWTH? SHOULD I BUY 50 Lot for each of the counter or juz pick 1? Wat price to enter is d best? as now d price is abit high oeldi   

ADVICE PLZ smile.gif
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Another alternative is to keep your RM9,000 in cash and wait.... hmm.gif
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post May 24 2009, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(kb2005 @ May 24 2009, 09:37 PM)
Again ? I thought they just revised it 2 times in 6 months time ?  shakehead.gif
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Should be no change, I would have thought.
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post May 25 2009, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(sharesa @ May 25 2009, 12:04 PM)
my portfolio  from 96k early this month, now 100k.
Very hard to decide, if sell all now, may have to buy back @ prices that is much higher unless another financial crisis happen again.
Hmmm...I think will hold & obtain all dividends first...
Or, if sell all now;, wait for a big drop, dunno when....& lose the dividends and run-ups...hmmmm
Finally....Hold I decide!
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I got the same problem. Nice problem to have. I also decided to hold.
Don't you wish every morning was like this one? nod.gif
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post May 25 2009, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ May 25 2009, 12:28 PM)
sharesa, i find that hapseng is barely moving since the past week. i am buying at its peak, sigh.

but i do have full confidence in this stock. going up back to $3 is just a matter of time. rolleyes.gif
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Same with my WCT, Bought it at 1.59 and sold it at 1.92 just to watch it go all the way up to 2.22 today. Just bought back in at 2.14 today and wll hold till it goes north of 2.50 (hopefully).

Isn't it nice to see the CI chugging along in a nice disciplined fashion like it did this morning?

Hope it will last...
...but it won't.
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post May 25 2009, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(simplesmile @ May 25 2009, 10:35 PM)
I'm back to LCL. I think I'm going to keep this one for the long term. I'm bringing back my infamous 4 year plan onto the table. smile.gif
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Tried to buy it today at RM0.64 but no match. So bought Lionind instead... tongue.gif
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post May 26 2009, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(tessei @ May 25 2009, 11:04 PM)
This could be the reason


Name : Global Emerging Markets Specialist Capital Pte Ltd  (Singapore)

Date of Notice : 20/05/2009
No. Date Transaction Type No of Shares Price (RM)
1. 06/05/2009 Disposed 2,000,000 -
2. 07/05/2009 Disposed 14,500,000 -

Date of Notice : 22/05/2009
No. Date Transaction Type No of Shares Price (RM)
1. 08/05/2009 Disposed 11,000,000 -
2. 11/05/2009 Disposed 5,000,000 -
3. 11/05/2009 Others 19,737,000 -

Date of Notice : 25/05/2009
No. Date Transaction Type No of Shares Price (RM)
1. 13/05/2009 Disposed 29,016,500 -

Circumstances by reason of which change has occurred: 
Open market sell
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I think this information was known about last week - not sure if it is relevant now.
SAAG - is a bit constipated though.
If oil heads towards $70.00 I expect it to move north towards 50 cents next month.
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post May 26 2009, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(viper88 @ May 26 2009, 10:29 AM)
Nobody here mentioned about ECM and Scomi? I post some news here on these 2 counters last week.. Kinda high beta stock play.. not for those weak heart.
About same pattern..very big seller  but its price get push up back strongly..

ECM today on nitous... shoot up so fast.. about 0. 665 up till 0.74
Now seller pressure comes again..

Scomi no need say la.. keeps blinking most of the time..  tongue.gif
Wow.. my penny PMCAP oso quite power 2day.. rclxms.gif
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Ah! SCOMI...
How I do love you and the way you blink...... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ May 26 2009, 10:07 PM)
DJ is green now. biggrin.gif

8,383.65 +106.33 +1.28%
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Oil slipping a bit though hmm.gif

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