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 Tarantula Thread V11, Either you love em or hate em

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post Aug 7 2009, 10:31 PM

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sorry... hv dis ever pop out ur mind dat we hv been spoonfed dis ts n scorps long time, some even since they were born... would it be a suicide mission putting dem bck 2 nature? they r used 2 hv crix or meal worms jst drop in front of them... n their environment, temperature are all jst so perfect dat the real world is kinda ....
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post Aug 7 2009, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(RyoKenzaki @ Aug 7 2009, 09:35 PM)
Macam cotton ball to me tongue.gif
Btw dennis, can we actually juz release it into a disclosed location?
Wont it harm the ecosystem balance there?
Or the location u mentioned is habitat for the T?
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haha...its d tissues*cuz juz got it today...and looks freaky to me,deciding to trade it out with other species>_<


Added on August 7, 2009, 10:32 pmactually, what topic r u guyz chatting?can i join?@_@

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post Aug 7 2009, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(tunemystylez @ Aug 7 2009, 10:31 PM)
haha...its d tissues*cuz juz got it today...and looks freaky to me,deciding to trade it out with other species>_<


Added on August 7, 2009, 10:32 pmactually, what topic r u guyz chatting?can i join?@_@
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u might wanna remove it b4 threatening ur Ts. U dint prepare 4 it n u jst bought it?
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post Aug 7 2009, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(*FallenAngel* @ Aug 7 2009, 10:34 PM)
u might wanna remove it b4 threatening ur Ts. U dint prepare 4 it n u jst bought it?
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had take it out later juz now, but still got one more still dun want to come out...
what makes it wanna stay inside d small container=.=zzz or stuck edi?jaja
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post Aug 7 2009, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(tunemystylez @ Aug 7 2009, 10:41 PM)
had take it out later juz now, but still got one more still dun want to come out...
what makes it wanna stay inside d small container=.=zzz or stuck edi?jaja
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jst slowly pull out de tissue n put in de container u wan it 2 stay.
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post Aug 7 2009, 11:15 PM

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but the container is so small till i can put 2 fingers into it only, how am i going to pull the tissue then?
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post Aug 7 2009, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(*FallenAngel* @ Aug 7 2009, 07:31 AM)
sorry... hv dis ever pop out ur mind dat we hv been spoonfed dis ts n scorps long time, some even since they were born... would it be a suicide mission putting dem bck 2 nature? they r used 2 hv crix or meal worms jst drop in front of them... n their environment, temperature are all jst so perfect dat the real world is kinda ....
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No worries mate. Their behavior does not differ much, if they are used to waiting and ambushing prey in captivity, they will do the same in the wild. Only difference is in the wild, prey is not so readily available which is why most WC T's you see have small butts. Of course some will be lost to predators- that is unavoidable. The whole purpose of the breeding program is to make sure most of the slings make it to juvenile/sub-adults where they can better fend for themselves. Parasites are also another factor they will have to contend with- again, this is unavoidable. Anyway, to release it or not is still a long way off. There's research to do, permissions/permits to obtain, trips to plan and specimens to collect. If we are successful in breeding a few pairs then we can discuss whether to release all or some etc and where. tongue.gif


Added on August 7, 2009, 11:22 pm
QUOTE(tunemystylez @ Aug 7 2009, 08:15 AM)
but the container is so small till i can put 2 fingers into it only, how am i going to pull the tissue then?
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Borrow your mom's, GF's or sister's tweezers or use chopsticks if it will fit.

ETA: ok you sound like you are quite new to this. If it is a H. lividum you are dealing with, just grab a corner of the tissue and pull. Or use a thin screwdriver and drag the edge of the tissue out of the container. I'm assuming the T is completely wrapped in the tissue.

A 2-3 inch specimen is big enough to have a temper. Or it might be so stressed that it will just sit there and do nothing. Just be prepared for anything and try not to get bit. tongue.gif biggrin.gif

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post Aug 7 2009, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(Oldfart @ Aug 7 2009, 11:19 PM)
No worries mate.  Their behavior does not differ much, if they are used to waiting and ambushing prey in captivity, they will do the same in the wild.  Only difference is in the wild, prey is not so readily available which is why most WC T's you see have small butts.  Of course some will be lost to predators- that is unavoidable.  The whole purpose of the breeding program is to make sure most of the slings make it to juvenile/sub-adults where they can better fend for themselves.  Parasites are also another factor they will have to contend with- again, this is unavoidable.  Anyway, to release it or not is still a long way off.  There's research to do, permissions/permits to obtain, trips to plan and specimens to collect.  If we are successful in breeding a few pairs then we can discuss whether to release all or some etc and where. tongue.gif


Added on August 7, 2009, 11:22 pm

Borrow your mom's, GF's or sister's tweezers or use chopsticks if it will fit.
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but i had knock the container till it comes out, lmao,any one wants to trade my cobalt blue?
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post Aug 7 2009, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(tunemystylez @ Aug 8 2009, 12:25 AM)
but i had knock the container till it comes out, lmao,any one wants to trade my cobalt blue?
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i want tongue.gif
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post Aug 7 2009, 11:43 PM

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http://animals.nationalgeographic.com/stat...un-scorpion.jpg
cool creature there... they found it in iraq, by US army, ironic
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post Aug 7 2009, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(junshern222 @ Aug 7 2009, 11:39 PM)
i want tongue.gif
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lol, no worries, i got 3 ~haha..
let me fully consider 1st...
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QUOTE(*FallenAngel* @ Aug 7 2009, 08:43 AM)
http://animals.nationalgeographic.com/stat...un-scorpion.jpg
cool creature there... they found it in iraq, by US army, ironic
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Very cool looking bug! Thanks for sharing.
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post Aug 8 2009, 12:02 AM

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whats that?lol...its a scorpion or ?
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post Aug 8 2009, 02:17 AM

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I think is call Camel spider, a type of Solifuge. It was rumoured they came out at night and attack US troops but OF COURSE NOT.
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post Aug 8 2009, 02:22 AM

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They are just chasing their shadow because they like to hide under shade
Poor lil creature that got misunderstood
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post Aug 8 2009, 02:38 AM

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Imagine the reaction if they were here... I did be freak out being chase by them. Headline: Mysterious Insects...aliens?! attacking innocent citizens. Though i am sure just want some nice shade to cuddle.

Heres my little monster.

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post Aug 8 2009, 03:12 AM

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I didn't realize my blue fang has been fasting for two months.
been really busy.
finally its eating right now! biggrin.gif
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finally mr aros has reappear...
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post Aug 8 2009, 04:03 AM

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QUOTE(RyoKenzaki @ Aug 7 2009, 09:35 PM)
Macam cotton ball to me tongue.gif
Btw dennis, can we actually juz release it into a disclosed location?
Wont it harm the ecosystem balance there?
Or the location u mentioned is habitat for the T?
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ryo I hope u don't mind me giving my thoughts,

although I'm not certain of it but r-related species (colonial species: eg: scorpions, spider etc.) have the population graph that fluctuate,
unless a very precise system is design to check the population size,
we will always be left with question of whether they are 'endangered' or 'extinct'

releasing them into the wild lead to more discussion:
will they survive?
will they affect the ecosytem?
and it goes on and on.

in terms of survival,
releasing at the place where you capture them; the exact same place helps a lot; because the chance of them to survive is higher since species dominate specific places in the habitat due to environmental conditions. So u know when u find a colony then the species favour the environmental humidity, temperature etc.
but I doubt it will survive since the one you captive breed did not undergo the natural selection that the wild one has went, unless if you release the youngs, then its a different story.

still,
u must always remmber that nature has its way of limiting the number of organisms so that the graph for the r-related species does not grow exponentially. This ensure that the increase requirement for resources can be retain in the ecosystem.

so for me,
having a captive breed colony is always better than releasing them back in the wild because by doing sou increase the mass in population without taking the risk of disturbing the ecosystem,

still always remind yourself that when herping, it is essential not to harvest all the species in the community especially the breeders (adult) so that they can reproduce again.

However u can always prove I'm wrong by doing more observations,
just my point of view and few scanning on my biology ecosystem text book tongue.gif,
keep us update,

I hope I make it simple for you to make your choice of to release or not.

yawn.gif bla bla bla...


Added on August 8, 2009, 4:25 am
QUOTE(HuonHengChai @ Aug 7 2009, 03:38 AM)
As a matter of fact, it is rare for hobbyists in Malaysia to actually obtain a local tarantula. Most of them actually end up oversea, because in terms of profit it make more sense for the trader to sell at USD50 then to sell at RM50. I will tell you shamefully that it is easier for me to purchase a local tarantula from other country other then my own.
I do agree that the decline in population is caused by not one but many factors, and even if the hobbyists stop buying them they will still end up else where. However, it is important to be aware about the current situation and do what we as hobbyists can to create the awareness.

I don't know about the rest of you guys but this is how I feel, we have the knowledge and experience, and so I guess that this also means that we have the responsibility to actually do something about it, no point having all these knowledge without putting them to better use, right?
Even if the odds is against us, I still think it is best that we do what we can rather then just sitting around waiting for something to happen.

littlesaint: Any state is possible as I am not looking at one specific location at the moment plus I do not have a structured plan yet. A mad man's plan is all that I have.
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nicely said! you're my hero wub.gif

finally MTS against the whole world.
This is my first goal in entering MTS.
Its a long winding road indeed, and the road not taken, unfortunately we may be among the few that still have the burning fire of desire to make this happen after much have been put out.

I've been on my own to Muzium Neg*ra and sadly the knowledge of the curator on tarantula is still very haih,

I mean is THIS for real?

Definitely, hobbyist have the responsibility to make it happen, after all we are the enthusiast.

I'm ON this.

I've learn a lot from the sifu, and this learning process is one of the oppurtunity that I can't miss.

Go Dennis go!

p/s: Daymm I missed a lot!

Leetgayboy: how's catherine doing?


Added on August 8, 2009, 4:39 ampictures for my day, something to think of,

would we like to see these, instead of THIS?

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sad, see how the colour fades as years pass by.

THIS is how tarantula should looks like, instead of showing our next generation framed tarantula, we can actually choose to keep the population stable for them to see real live specimens.



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cheers~

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post Aug 8 2009, 04:44 AM

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if i had a male sp.blue i would spanar "catherine" from you

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