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TSDarren Chuah
post May 14 2009, 09:37 PM, updated 17y ago

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I plan to buy speaker wire from futureshop.co.uk and have some doubt when placing the order.

Wat is PLUGS: banana airloc? wat is spade airloc?

Wat is termination means? This one cost so expensive than my wire. Do we need it? Thanks for your help.
If i just buy wire, the cable can be use? or how will it look like?

Please advise which i suppose to choose from the option menu.

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post May 14 2009, 10:09 PM

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plug means the connector

the one above are banana airloc and below are spade airloc
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it depends on ur usage, mine i got without factory termination

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post May 14 2009, 10:18 PM

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I'm a big fan of SA XT. All my front speakers connected via this cable.

Banana and spade is just the type of connector. Most people use banana. Airloc is just the name of QED connector. This is the best connector for SA XT because of the design of this cable.

When u buy the cable, u can either buy the cable unterminated (only the cable without any connector) or u terminate one side with connector of ur choice (the other end will be bare wire) or u can terminate both end. Airloc is expensive so it will increase the cost of cable considerably if you terminate both end (but the most recommended because of the secure connection).

I don't recommend u buy SA XT without connector because the design of the cable will be pain in the ass to connect it to either ur amp or speaker. If you want it cheap without connector, better go for Silver Anniversary instead as this cable does not has the air core like SA XT.

Anyway after conversion and plus shipping cost, a pair of 3m SA XT terminated both end with Banana Airloc will cost u about RM380.
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post May 14 2009, 11:19 PM

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What arremie said. having your cables terminated makes it easier to plug your cables to the speakers and receivers (assuming they accept such terminals).

Also, the airlocs are best terminated by the shop for best fit - i believe a special clamp is also required. so decide if u want it terminated upfront before you purchase the cable rather than an after thought. that way, it will be shipped to you properly terminated at source.

remember buying from futureshop got no vat.
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post May 15 2009, 11:12 AM

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Thank you very much on all bro explanation here, I m using Jamo S 606 HC S3 with Onkyo 506, so the front tall boy speaker is bi-wire type, n front & surround speakers are normal one. So this speakers n AVR is most suitable for which plugs? and for the termination for bi-wire really cut my throat.....8 plugs need for bi-wire....

QED One Incognito Speaker Cable 20m - For my surround speakers
QED Genesis Revelation Speaker Cable (1 meter) - For my center speaker
QED Silver Anniversary XT Speaker Bi-Wire Cable (2x2.5meters) - For Front Speakers

I am happy if you can advise on my purchase before i place my order.

Picture below is the way banana plug slot in to our speaker terminal? Then which termination need for AVR side? I really scared i bought wrong thing.
Sorry for stupid question coz i really first time own home theater... tongue.gif

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post May 15 2009, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(Darren Chuah @ May 15 2009, 11:12 AM)
Thank you very much on all bro explanation here, I m using Jamo S 606 HC S3 with Onkyo 506, so the front tall boy speaker is bi-wire type, n front & surround speakers are normal one. So this speakers n AVR is most suitable for which plugs? and for the termination for bi-wire really cut my throat.....8 plugs need for bi-wire....

QED One Incognito Speaker Cable 20m - For my surround speakers
QED Genesis Revelation Speaker Cable (1 meter) - For my center speaker
QED Silver Anniversary XT Speaker Bi-Wire Cable (2x2.5meters) - For Front Speakers

I am happy if you can advise on my purchase before i place my order.

Picture below is the way banana plug slot in to our speaker terminal? Then which termination need for AVR side? I really scared i bought wrong thing.
Sorry for stupid question coz i really first time own home theater... tongue.gif
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U can poke in a banana plug into ur Onkyo terminal except u need to take out the plastic cap on ur Onkyo terminaal first. First use a screw to screw into the plastic cap ( just a bit in will do ) then pull out the plastic cap. Once this is done u will see that the Onkyo spk terminal is the same as ur Jamo spk terminate.

Hope this help. BTW I am using banana on all my spk & AVR terminal. Except my banana ( Rm1 each ) & wire r cheapo type. sad.gif
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post May 15 2009, 11:47 AM

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Thanks for your info, i found that my amp is offering a Bi-Amp function which i don have 2nd unit amp, do i still need a Bi-wire to my speakers? is bi-wire will improve my SQ?
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post May 15 2009, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(Darren Chuah @ May 15 2009, 11:47 AM)
Thanks for your info, i found that my amp is offering a Bi-Amp function which i don have 2nd unit amp, do i still need a Bi-wire to my speakers? is bi-wire will improve my SQ?
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I heard it will improve ur SQ. But I don't use it in my set up as I want to have 7.1 set up.
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post May 15 2009, 11:53 AM

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guys if i need 1m for my left speaker and 3m for my right speaker, should i buy

1) 4m and cut myself?

or

2) 1x 1m & 1x 3m
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post May 15 2009, 11:59 AM

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Yes bi-amp will improve ur SQ. I use 2 pairs SA XT terminated both sides to bi-amp my front. Read ur amp manual on how to.
Oh u might want to try QED silver micro for your surround. Nothing special with QED one. Haven't try Genesis but from what I read it can be very bright.
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post May 15 2009, 11:59 AM

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I guess the best is make it the speaker left n right same length for perfect balance signal. Correct me i f i m wrong.
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post May 15 2009, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(Darren Chuah @ May 15 2009, 11:59 AM)
I guess the best is make it the speaker left n right same length for perfect balance signal. Correct me i f i m wrong.
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u r right
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post May 15 2009, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(arremie @ May 15 2009, 11:59 AM)
Yes bi-amp will improve ur SQ. I use 2 pairs SA XT terminated both sides to bi-amp my front. Read ur amp manual on how to.
Oh u might want to try QED silver micro for your surround. Nothing special with QED one. Haven't try Genesis but from what I read it can be very bright.
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Hi Arremie,

I don have 2 amps, how to make it Bi-Amp? I only have a front speaker offering Bi-wire. So i still need buy Bi-wire speaker cable?I really confuse about this. QED silver micro (£2.68/meters)is too expensive as i need about 20m for my surround speakers (10m each side). £53.6 pound for my surround speaker cable, i pokai lo...hehehee.....

I more thing if i no need BI-wire type, then can i split the bi-wire into 2 pairs? so i just buy 1 x 2.5m - £6.77(Bi-wire) will get 2x 2.5m(£4.21/m) wire. Bi-wire cheaper then normal wire in same type. So i save about £5.

1 x QED One Incognito Speaker Cable 20m £16.16
1 x QED Genesis Revelation Speaker Cable
- Length: 1m
- Plugs: Banana AIRLOC
- Termination: Both Ends £25.52
1 x QED Silver Anniversary XT Speaker Bi-Wire Cable
- Length: 2.5m
- Plugs: Banana AIRLOC
- Termination: Both Ends: 8 Plugs £40.74
Postage & Packing (1st Class) ( Malaysia: 1500 g): £19.99
Sub-total: £102.41
Total: £102.41

How much is £102.41 in Malaysia ringgit?
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post May 15 2009, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(HornyAngMoh @ May 15 2009, 11:38 AM)
Except my banana ( Rm1 each ) & wire r cheapo type. sad.gif
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Sama gang, but mine better than yours a little bit la .. I use RM4/ea.
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QUOTE(s6xs9x @ May 15 2009, 12:12 PM)
Sama gang, but mine better than yours a little bit la .. I use RM4/ea.
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Do u guys think its worth to buy the termination ah? only 12 termination cost £66.26 , its more than my speaker wire leh......pls voice out ur opinion.....
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post May 15 2009, 12:42 PM

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the picture i showed are not the saxt la .. it just a DIY from QED performance one cables. I'm just showing the bananas only. oh yea that's for my center speaker BTW.

the airlocks are meant to reduce oxidation to the wires. factory terminated are always better than DIY. If it's within you budget, go ahead with the terminations, else just buy a length longer and snip ends off every 6months or so if you find them oxidized, if you are concerned bout it of cause, otherwise i feel it's going to be the same.

Me, I used bananas to ease out the cable swapping, and testings only.
but those Airlocks are really well built .. I just borrowed a pair of 3.0M yesterday from a friend to test out.
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QUOTE(arremie @ May 15 2009, 11:59 AM)
Yes bi-amp will improve ur SQ. I use 2 pairs SA XT terminated both sides to bi-amp my front. Read ur amp manual on how to.
Oh u might want to try QED silver micro for your surround. Nothing special with QED one. Haven't try Genesis but from what I read it can be very bright.
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Genesis can be very bright, then can be use for center speaker, so that vocal will be very clear & lounder? or will over bright?
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post May 15 2009, 04:10 PM

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I suggest u just buy 3 x 2.5m SA XT terminated both end. Forget the Genesis. If ur only amp support bi-amp feature u can buy another pair (just check your manual la). Bi-amp with 2 amp is a different story.

Watch out for the end price. You don't want to exceed RM500 (shipping included) after conversion coz u'll have problem with our custom unless u got lucky.
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post May 15 2009, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(arremie @ May 15 2009, 04:10 PM)
I suggest u just buy 3 x 2.5m SA XT terminated both end. Forget the Genesis. If ur only amp support bi-amp feature u can buy another pair (just check your manual la). Bi-amp with 2 amp is a different story.

Watch out for the end price. You don't want to exceed RM500 (shipping included) after conversion coz u'll have problem with our custom unless u got lucky.
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Yes, my amp support bi-amp, so i need to buy 2x 2.5m of BI-WIRE SA XT, is the center speaker also need to be same length with the L & R speakers? coz my center speaker will only put above my AVR about 1.5 feet only.

My budget will not exceed RM 500, if both end termination will exceed right?
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post May 15 2009, 08:31 PM

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Just buy 3 single cable terminated both end la. Should be less than 500. No need to bi-amp yet. If you like the cable then next time buy another pair for bi-amping. Only then you can appreciate the difference.

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