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post Feb 13 2021, 06:52 AM

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Hi. Anyone using AC18? Is V15.03.3.11_multi the latest firmware for Unifi?
Alan Yee
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Hi all.
Would like to know if the Tenda AC23, an AC2100 router suitable for using as an WiFi Extender.
My house is using Maxis 300/50 Mbps plan, and I want to extend the 5Ghz signal.
Should this router maintain the 300/50 Mbps speed, since it is a triband router.
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post Feb 13 2021, 11:06 AM

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Another recommended setup would be if I replace this router, and bought 2 or 3 units to setup as mesh. Strongly just maintain the 5Ghz, 866Mbps + 866Mbps 4x4 MIMO, would this become a cheap solution as mesh WiFi?
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QUOTE(Alan Yee @ Feb 13 2021, 10:44 AM)
Hi all.
Would like to know if the Tenda AC23, an AC2100 router suitable for using as an WiFi Extender.
My house is using Maxis 300/50 Mbps plan, and I want to extend the 5Ghz signal.
Should this router maintain the 300/50 Mbps speed, since it is a triband router.
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Hi, I believe the AC23 is a Dual Band router. It has a wireless repeater mode which you can setup to help you extend your 5GHz coverage. But it would depend on the size of your house, no of walls etc which may affect the performance. But do try it out and let us know how it works for you. Cheers!
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post Feb 13 2021, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(weixiong91 @ Feb 13 2021, 01:43 PM)
Hi, I believe the AC23 is a Dual Band router. It has a wireless repeater mode which you can setup to help you extend your 5GHz coverage. But it would depend on the size of your house, no of walls etc which may affect the performance. But do try it out and let us know how it works for you. Cheers!
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Then how about the WiFi bandwidth for 5Ghz?
Let say now the Maxis provided is a TP-Link ac1200 router, fiber internet speed is 300/50Mbps, I use the repeater mode to repeat the 5Ghz WiFi signal.
As this Tenda AC23 has 2 866Mbps, 866 + 866 = 1733Mbps at 5Ghz, 4x4MIMO, would the repeater speed can still maintain at least 866Mbps of true internet speed?
Or this Tenda AC23 when repeat 5Ghz WiFi will only repeat the ac1200 speed, that is the 2x2MIMO 866Mbps speed
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post Feb 16 2021, 09:39 AM

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Hi..
If I want to set AC23 as a repeater, can I use a router such as D-Link DIR-825 as the main router?

I am now using AC23 as the main router, and tried to use my old router ASUS RT-N14UHP as repeater but didn't work. ASUS can get connected to AC23 but no internet detected on ASUS. Not too sure what is the main cause but this is also experienced by others.

Thanks.

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Morpheus2be
post Feb 16 2021, 09:41 AM

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Any ideas when Tenda's Wifi 6 gear might be coming out?
Alan Yee
post Feb 17 2021, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(SnowWhiteTan @ Feb 16 2021, 09:39 AM)
Hi..
If I want to set AC23 as a repeater, can I use a router such as D-Link DIR-825 as the main router?

I am now using AC23 as the main router, and tried to use my old router ASUS RT-N14UHP as repeater but didn't work. ASUS can get connected to AC23 but no internet detected on ASUS. Not too sure what is the main cause but this is also experienced by others.

Thanks.
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My experience with TP-Link router to set as extender, is to disable DHCP, also set the DNS/gateway to the main router IP address.
Of course, also need to manually assign TP-Link router IP address to another IP address that does not clash with the main router, then the extender works without issue.
So, don't know if your ASUS router need to manually do these.
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post Feb 17 2021, 11:25 AM

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ac23 disable beamforming more stable no more fluctuations
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post Feb 17 2021, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(nonamer @ Feb 17 2021, 11:25 AM)
ac23 disable beamforming more stable no more fluctuations
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ok! will try this
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post Feb 17 2021, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(Alan Yee @ Feb 17 2021, 09:38 AM)
My experience with TP-Link router to set as extender, is to disable DHCP, also set the DNS/gateway to the main router IP address.
Of course, also need to manually assign TP-Link router IP address to another IP address that does not clash with the main router, then the extender works without issue.
So, don't know if your ASUS router need to manually do these.
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oh.... might need to do these cos the asus router is on different set of IP address. Thanks!
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post Feb 17 2021, 08:15 PM

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can recommend me which repeater/extender works well with AC23? thanks!
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post Feb 18 2021, 12:19 PM

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My unit of Tenda AC23 just arrived yesterday.
Well, really similar to the words claim, this router despite being cheap, and claim to be a AC2100 WiFi router, is nothing special actually.

My unit is english version, and comes with Unifi/Maxis selectable ISP option.
I use it just as a wireless repeat/extender for upstairs, mainly extend the 5Ghz signal and the performance is so so only, speed same as any AC1200 router.
So, everything is easy to setup via smartphone via the web UI, and I am able to setup all properly without using laptop, well... hard reset few time.

So, the beam forming doesn't force to combine both 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz signal, and it is true that turn off beam forming making the speed test faster and more stable.

Most importantly, despite it has 4x4 MIMO, it doesn't use it for full potential, let say using 2x2 of the MIMO antenna to collect upstream router signal to retain 866Mbps speed, and do transmission using another 2x2 dedicated MIMO.
End up, the speed test on a 300Mbps fiber plan is only getting around half speed at upstairs, which previously with only the ISP provided TP Link Archer C5V router, the 5Ghz signal and 2.4Ghz signal always not stable.

Well, I think it is worth it's price as a 5Ghz WiFi repeater, since a decent branded ac1200 repeater also is sold around this price.

So now comes the question, if I have 2 units of Tenda AC23, one installed to the WAN as the main modem/router/WiFi, another one use as wireless repeater, will the 5Ghz repeater will become faster, where the linking between the 2 Tenda AC23 unit will use 866 + 866 = 1733Mbps speed to forward upstream router packet?

I know if I plug in Ethernet cable to use it as Access Point (AP mode) will solve the WiFi speed issue, will get 300/50 Mbps, but I really wonder if I want to do this entirely wirelessly, does 2 unit of Tenda AC23 can make the difference?

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QUOTE(Alan Yee @ Feb 18 2021, 12:19 PM)
My unit of Tenda AC23 just arrived yesterday.
Well, really similar to the words claim, this router despite being cheap, and claim to be a AC2100 WiFi router, is nothing special actually.

My unit is english version, and comes with Unifi/Maxis selectable ISP option.
I use it just as a wireless repeat/extender for upstairs, mainly extend the 5Ghz signal and the performance is so so only, speed same as any AC1200 router.
So, everything is easy to setup via smartphone via the web UI, and I am able to setup all properly without using laptop, well... hard reset few time.

So, the beam forming doesn't force to combine both 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz signal, and it is true that turn off beam forming making the speed test faster and more stable.

Most importantly, despite it has 4x4 MIMO, it doesn't use it for full potential, let say using 2x2 of the MIMO antenna to collect upstream router signal to retain 866Mbps speed, and do transmission using another 2x2 dedicated MIMO.
End up, the speed test on a 300Mbps fiber plan is only getting around half speed at upstairs, which previously with only the ISP provided TP Link Archer C5V router, the 5Ghz signal and 2.4Ghz signal always not stable.

Well, I think it is worth it's price as a 5Ghz WiFi repeater, since a decent branded ac1200 repeater also is sold around this price.

So now comes the question, if I have 2 units of Tenda AC23, one installed to the WAN as the main modem/router/WiFi,  another one use as wireless repeater, will the 5Ghz repeater will become faster, where the linking between the 2 Tenda AC23 unit will use 866 + 866 = 1733Mbps speed to forward upstream router packet?

I know if I plug in Ethernet cable to use it as Access Point (AP mode) will solve the WiFi speed issue, will get 300/50 Mbps, but I really wonder if I want to do this entirely wirelessly, does 2 unit of Tenda AC23 can make the difference?
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you use ac23 as wireless repeat/extender, the speed will be automatic cut into half
always go for Mesh solution if your house is 2 floors unless one powerful single router in the middle if staircase then can cover all
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post Feb 18 2021, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(szecheng @ Feb 18 2021, 02:39 PM)
you use ac23 as wireless repeat/extender, the speed will be automatic cut into half
always go for Mesh solution if your house is 2 floors unless one powerful single router in the middle if staircase then can cover all
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Because I check online, mesh system also cut speed in half, and it is not cut in term of the ISP speed, it is cut based on the WiFi speed.
I think now this repeater/extender already do the job to maintain the speed at least max around 160 Mbps for 5Ghz, which already considered good, other speed cut maybe due to the wall penetration issue.
So, my point is because the speed cut is due to 866 Mbps/4, then now if I have 2 Tenda AC23 that operate at 1733 Mbps, if let say divide by 4, would I get at least 300 Mbps?
I check online that not much on this kind of test, and mostly the mesh system speed test is on the lower ISP speed, 30 Mbps/50Mbps, which doesn't prove if can get 300 Mbps on all the mesh node on mesh system.

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can anyone enlighten me...
for example: my current ISP is unifi 100mbps. Using AC2100 router and N300 repeater.

I'm only getting 20mbps from the repeater.

If I upgrade to AC1200 repeater, what is the speed that I'll get?
Or if I upgrade to AC2100 repeater, what is the speed?
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QUOTE(Alan Yee @ Feb 18 2021, 03:23 PM)
Because I check online, mesh system also cut speed in half, and it is not cut in term of the ISP speed, it is cut based on the WiFi speed.
I think now this repeater/extender already do the job to maintain the speed at least max around 160 Mbps for 5Ghz, which already considered good, other speed cut maybe due to the wall penetration issue.
So, my point is because the speed cut is due to 866 Mbps/4, then now if I have 2 Tenda AC23 that operate at 1733 Mbps, if let say divide by 4, would I get at least 300 Mbps?
I check online that not much on this kind of test, and mostly the mesh system speed test is on the lower ISP speed, 30 Mbps/50Mbps, which doesn't prove if can get 300 Mbps on all the mesh node on mesh system.
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I think mesh won't cut speed.
Wifi extender/repeater will because it has its own ssid, to receive & broadcast, speed will cut into half
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QUOTE(szecheng @ Feb 18 2021, 06:09 PM)
I think mesh won't cut speed.
Wifi extender/repeater will because it has its own ssid, to receive & broadcast, speed will cut into half
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https://youtu.be/KtH9SE6tRZA
Do check this video, when connecting between wireless access point of the mesh, that is from mesh to mesh unit wirelessly, the speed still cut in half, unless using the very high end mesh, the speed still drop.

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QUOTE(SnowWhiteTan @ Feb 18 2021, 03:46 PM)
can anyone enlighten me...
for example: my current ISP is unifi 100mbps. Using AC2100 router and N300 repeater.

I'm only getting 20mbps from the repeater.

If I upgrade to AC1200 repeater, what is the speed that I'll get?
Or if I upgrade to AC2100 repeater, what is the speed?
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Use the max WiFi speed divide by 7 and you will get around the theoretical speed.
Let say now you upgrade to AC1200 repeater, you should get 866/7=123 Mbps.
So, upgrade to AC1200 repeater and repeat the 5Ghz signal of 866 Mbps would solve your issue. You can buy another Tenda AC23 to set as repeater as well, since a branded AC1200 repeater also is around the same price as Tenda AC23, or can buy cheaper AC1200 router to set it as repeater.
Now the unknown question is if 2 Tenda AC23 would connect at 1733 Mbps, that would result in 1733 Mbps/7 = 247 Mbps.
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QUOTE(Alan Yee @ Feb 18 2021, 10:57 PM)
Use the max WiFi speed divide by 7 and you will get around the theoretical speed.
Let say now you upgrade to AC1200 repeater, you should get 866/7=123 Mbps.
So, upgrade to AC1200 repeater and repeat the 5Ghz signal of 866 Mbps would solve your issue. You can buy another Tenda AC23 to set as repeater as well, since a branded AC1200 repeater also is around the same price as Tenda AC23, or can buy cheaper AC1200 router to set it as repeater.
Now the unknown question is if 2 Tenda AC23 would connect at 1733 Mbps, that would result in 1733 Mbps/7 = 247 Mbps.
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thanks a lot for the detailed explanation!

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