and it doesn't end there. when nintendo introduce another firmware update, u be doing the whole process again. u might not want to update, but the newer games will need the update else u can't play. don't think the wii is like ps2. ps2 mod is sap sap soi. ps3/xbox360/wii are newer generation consoles, and it is getting harder to mod, and it will get even harder in the future. So get use to it and buy orignal. don't expect to get free games anymore, that is old thinking.

most, if not all games comes with a firmware update of a certain version. When game loads, it will check the system firmware version, and if it is earlier then firmware it has on disc, it will do a mandatory update. So it is a must need for wii games. but modders have done so much to workaround the mandatory update

i updated to 4.2 coz the wii shop doesn't work anymore for 4.1, then i notice a mail from nintendo, so wihtout thinking i update la. No problem also. But to be honest i don't notice any difference 4.2 brings beside making my wii shop work again. oh yes, one small thing, i notice that when u leave your game idle, the screen goes dark. this is definitely 4.2 coz i didn't notice it in 4.1

for hassle free go unmodded. even if u plan not to update it will have some degree of hassle in the future (especially for latest games). visit sites like www.afterdawn.com and u see what i mean

1. no, a child can't do it. its not intuitive and automated. hey u are pimping your wii. how can pimping your wii be intuitive and automated?

2. NSMB is not the only problem. the people in afterdawn are facing problems unique to their setup. there are a million and one softmod setups, so your problem may be unique to only your softmod setup. so for example if your mario kart wii that does not work on your softmod wii, it doesn't mean it doesn't work on all softmod wiis.

3. even if u are talking about hardmod, its the same but to a lesser degree. there are many chips out there, and they all behave differently.

if you soft mod there are only 2 reasons:
1. to play pirate
2. u want to do more on your wii
95% of them will be in the 1st category. i didn't do any survey on this. but i am pretty sure i am accurate.

if u hard mod there are only 2 reasons:
1. to play pirate
2. to play backups and other region games
99.9999% will be in the 1st category. again i didn't do any survey. but i am pretty sure i am accurate.

>> so the people in afterdawn are all infants? coz if a child can do it, so if u have problems, u must be an infant
Can't really get you here. But no, people in afterdawn are not infants, just people who don't read. Try reading a few topics from GBATemp, that'll put those afterdawn people into shape.


>> missing system files are part of the softmod issues. installation of these files can easily be done by a child, but not by an infant.
I never said anything about infants. I said child, as in, a few years older than an infant. Also, in my statement, I never said anything about a child did I? And I was talking about the "one million and one softmod setup" there. Never said anything about softmod issues too. Just talking about how easy it is to fix if there's a problem running about
3. Nope, not talking about hardmod here.

>> so how do u get your other region games? let me guess, u order from PA? or u ask your friend in england to mail to u? or u go to england and get it yourself? or u download? my friends in NASA think u should just download.

A little bit of both. If my friend at London, Kyoto, nor Amsterdam, who are in college, by the way, (A few really existing friends) can't find it in the local stores, I hit up Play-Asia and see what I can find.

>>the point i am making is: please just leave the wii as it is. i know 90% of u out there just want to play games and not be hassled with all these modding crap issues. people who wants to pirate like to talk about modding (there are geniune modders too, but we have no issues with them). the ps3 is not a good console to mod coz u can't pirate. we want to see wii games on the shelves like the ps3. u go to a smalll town, you can find ps3 games, even 360 games got, but limited, but 0 (zero) wii games. Yes ZERO. that's how bad it is. freaking ZERO.

So you are saying that I am a pirate just because I like to talk about modding? PS3 can be modded, and if the chance comes and I have one, I shall mod it at ease, just for the sake of "doing more" on it.

hai, i think i am wasting my time talking. things won't change.

Guys, how much does used DS games sell for?

I check out the trade forums in LYN forums but not a lot of information there on used DS games or even new ones.

Cleaning up my room so putting some up for sale.

i really do wish I could just make the wii region free. I really do.