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 Stock Market VERSION 26, Baby bull @ Baby bear ?

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post May 16 2009, 01:15 AM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ May 15 2009, 10:40 PM)
When I started stock trading, my first rule was to play safe and not be greedy i.e. no sai lang business. Because of this, since starting trading, I have not lost any of my trades yet. Of course, I entered the market when it crashed so I was very lucky. To reduce my risk, I usually wait for the market to fall, then start buying in small amounts. If the counter drops further, I will average down. Eventually, the counter will go up above my ABP (unless the company goes bankrupt).

So far, my realized profits is around 15% of my capital and came from trades as below:
Zelan x2
Gamuda x2
KNM x2
Scomi
Lionind
WCT
Resorts
Kinstel
LCL

Now I'm holding on to the following counters, all of which has paper gain except for Hektar (slow snail counter for dividend only):
Uchitec
Lionind
MRCB
Kinstel

Many people try to use their small knife to cut big tree. However, lots of time, the big tree will fall on you!!! Stocks trading is risky business. Chance to become rich.... of course.... but you also have a chance to lose all you money....

As cherroy has said - if you keeping jumping from one counter to the other (while make profits), you'll eventually jump into a wrong boat and lose.......

Trade safely. Less profit is better than losing your money right?   smile.gif

Edit : Oh ya, I only use cash account. No margin business for me.  blush.gif
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That is very good, kmarc. I wish I'm as patient, humble or as zen as you. smile.gif notworthy.gif


Added on May 16, 2009, 1:19 am
QUOTE(Ruionkoh @ May 16 2009, 12:13 AM)
sure ar? gawd daym f***..... if it drops to 0.55 i will sell d. T.T
by the way what if i plan to keep say like a year ?LOL would it be fine?
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You keep good companies with good fundamentals for 1 year or more. For company with rocky fundamentals, you just throw away before you get burnt. Unfortunately, ramunia is the 2nd company. They don't have a business now. They sold all their assets / operations to SIME. Don't keep shares in a company that doesn't even know what its going to do now.


Added on May 16, 2009, 1:20 am
QUOTE(ABC2020 @ May 16 2009, 12:41 AM)
Experience trader here should give some advise to newbies that  so excited to deal with warrant........ warrant that almost expire also dare to buy. Really dont how do write the word DIE?
Ya, scary. shakehead.gif

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post May 16 2009, 01:29 AM

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QUOTE(ABC2020 @ May 16 2009, 12:28 AM)
Share with you all a bit..... i bougth axiata(TMI) around RM 4.4, after the price plunge 50% from RM 8. thought should be safe... how much it worth now. i cut with 3.5 k lost... now, if i willing, i can buy axiata with another 50% discount of my selling price. Well, with recently small rally only, i manage to cover all my loses in 2008 with good profit.
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Ya, my dad oso kena same thing. But he didn't average down. Just didn't sell only. Lucky he buys fundamental stocks only, and well 70% of his holdings are with him for 5-8 years already. He just regret it now, cos he's back at square one.
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post May 16 2009, 01:34 AM

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QUOTE(virtualgay @ May 16 2009, 01:27 AM)
omores.. have you started your future trading?
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Yes, to hedge against my losses. Now I hope that that market will drop. Actually both ways oso can.

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post May 16 2009, 01:47 AM

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QUOTE(virtualgay @ May 16 2009, 01:45 AM)
sell also can buy also can.. future not bad la.. haha... the problem is with Volume...
always not much volume and not much people know how to play future...
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Need to be able to read the trend lo. So now, I'm reading books on tech analysis. Got a lot to learn. smile.gif.
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post May 16 2009, 02:05 AM

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QUOTE(.:BreT:. @ May 16 2009, 01:30 AM)
yup sold at 0.5 -.-" fortunately off the boat early, if not jialat..... but anyhow trapped by pdz...
now hands holding saag and lioncor, which drop badly ahha
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Still u r lucky to have escaped being stuck with that. smile.gif


Added on May 16, 2009, 2:08 am
QUOTE(virtualgay @ May 16 2009, 01:54 AM)
do recommend some title for me...
basically i do read some article on how to do technical analysis but give up la..
so many things to learn..
let me find you the link later...


Added on May 16, 2009, 1:57 amhere is the link to the article i read few weeks ago...

http://stockcharts.com/school/doku.php?id=chart_school
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Yeah, and all these patterns have weird names like doji tail, harami & bullish abandoned baby ( biggrin.gif ). It's like some japanese origami coupled with American skewed sense of humor. tongue.gif

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post May 16 2009, 02:23 AM

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QUOTE(virtualgay @ May 16 2009, 02:14 AM)
very true!! weird name.. but after reading the article.. candle stick was originated from Japan so i guess some of the term use in TA also must be originate from Japan la.. go through the link and you should be able to pick some TA skills... once you really know how to do TA.. do share your finding with the brother and sister here...
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post May 16 2009, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(alanaw @ May 16 2009, 07:14 PM)
Now i have the thinking of lending money from bank to pump into stock market. However, i m juz a fresh graduate with 4 month of working experience. Does not have any asset for mortgage. But i do have a steady income of 3.4k every month. So am i eligible to lend about 50k from bank?

Any banker or anyone with financial background to clarify my question?
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If you've only worked for 4 months, can I assume that your savings is still low and you re still a baby investor like me (inexperienced)? When you take up loans, you have to really think of what happens if the worst case scenarios happen. What happens if you've made some bad choices in stocks and you cannot recover back your loan capital for sometime? ven seasoned traders of 10 years make mistakes in their stock selections sometimes and get stuck. A lot of people overleveraged and die this way. Do u really want be be stuck in debt while you are still so young? blink.gif

Anyhow, if you still wanna take loan, I suggest you take a lower amount? I think its a huge risk to take 50k loan to trade when u are only earning 3.4k p.month. To answer your Q, banks are offering personal financing now, approved in 24 hours. But the interests are ridiculous, from 7-13%. Know the RISKS. I suggest you take loan from maybank, cos I got some shares there. Hehehehe. tongue.gif You can also put some money into your IB and get margin financing of 1-1.5 times your investment capital.

I'm not from financial background... just giving my opinion. Know your risks (which is a LOT) before you do anything.

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post May 17 2009, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(alanaw @ May 17 2009, 12:12 AM)
All in all, now i can say that i have 30k. Bought knm at 0.8sen on friday vmad.gif As well as Saag at 0.355. So now left around 18k. Any advise?

I know knm price is abit high when i bought. Duno wana average down with my remaining money. Or use d remaining money to diversified into other share. Hmph..
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Hey you go money ma. smile.gif Don't cut loss, KNM still good company. Ill support if go down to 60 something cents tongue.gif Don't av down yet, see what happens monday.
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post May 17 2009, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(virtualgay @ May 17 2009, 01:29 AM)
u are asking him to keep?
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Ya, KNM is ok counter. Not Ramunia. tongue.gif And he's got spare cash and holding power.


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QUOTE(john123x @ May 17 2009, 01:52 PM)
knm 60cents is very tempting, i definitely enter if it drop down to 60 cents!!!!
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Then I'll go in at 61 cents and you can support me at 60 cents. Hahaha.

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QUOTE(simplesmile @ May 17 2009, 01:59 PM)
Hi omores, regards my E&O. I've more or less decided to cut loss on this counter. And buy back when it reaches 0.60 or 0.5x. After that, will wait for UBS to gorent this stock again to make back my losses.
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Ok, see how things go on Monday. Meanwhile, you may want to check the E&O thread. There are ppl who buy the shares there that may give you more informed advice... I think Goldman Sachs oso goreng this share. That's why when goreng, go up like crazy. When overcooked, burnt like mad.

The E&O's hotels is so nice, better than the former raffles hotel in phnom penh, when we make super lots of money in two years, we should have lyn gathering there. Hehehehe. Go eat char koay teow, the best nasi kandar ever and assam laksa. Got nice hot dog. Yum Yum. smile.gif

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QUOTE(harrychoo @ May 18 2009, 09:05 AM)
woohoo, LYN is back..

dun dare to trade without LYN..lol

so who dare to catch falling dagger today? who want be an hero?
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post May 18 2009, 09:20 AM

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My profit from equities all wiped out... from making RM8k, now down to 0k... Still holding on tho. Hopefully will see green army this week (after I ave down)

Lucky I shorted on FKLI last friday at 1007. Bought back at 999. Made RM3500. So fun and fast. thumbup.gif Now I realized what it means to hedge your losses. Thanks Adam!!!!
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QUOTE(Ka3tr0 @ May 18 2009, 09:21 AM)
Stay on sideline and watch deep red smile.gif still not 10% pullback yet
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10% pullback means 90 pts drop already. That would be bad.
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QUOTE(goognio @ May 18 2009, 09:24 AM)
Respect you. Still got balls to holdĀ  shocking.gif
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No balls. Just stupid to have hold when I'm making so much already.. smile.gif Greedy me.

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QUOTE(aurora97 @ May 18 2009, 09:24 AM)
good for u  thumbup.gif

very rare see any traders use FKLI to hedge their position in the equities market, only problem is with the ability to gain so much in just a few days may also mean X could possibly lose just as much.
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Ya. But lucky got informed advice lo. Now still wondering if shud cut loss or not when its too late rclxub.gif. Very sienz when I log into my AMINVEST account and see RM-3999 on all my stocks. Lucky the other a/c got profit RM4500, so all square out. Now waiting for time to go back in.

Moorish, your warrant exp in September can dispose of before July dee.
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QUOTE(Brotherjoe @ May 18 2009, 09:32 AM)
KLCI seem to be recovering... now at 1013 points..
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for second round of sell down...
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post May 18 2009, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(moorish @ May 18 2009, 09:35 AM)
how come mine shows 1007????
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KLCI 1006.72. FKLI at 996.5, aiya bought back too soon already.
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I'm selling my UEMLand at small 19% profit, even cut on sell queue. This is very painful cos I was making 50% but too greedy to sell.


Shit, I queue at 1.23, matched and UEMLAND straight away it jumped up to 1.25. Typical luck.
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QUOTE(goognio @ May 18 2009, 09:51 AM)
Even sharks also kecut telur already  biggrin.gif
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From rock oysters to prunes...
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ May 18 2009, 09:59 AM)
CI stocks fell so much with a small volume, no panic sell so far.
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Got, if you are holding my stocks. smile.gif


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Sold off my Pelikan at 11% loss ( RM-2,591.80). Target price to buy back at 75 cents.

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