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zacharyyeo
post May 11 2009, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(ravager877 @ May 11 2009, 07:52 PM)
Sigh.

Some of you know my story and about how I'm going to get married sometime mid next year. I had planned to keep things simple but it seems that suddenly things are going out of control...

As usual, all the problems of getting married have to do with MONEY. It seems interesting that there are already topics like this opened before I even posted this up. Here's the issue.

My fiancee is feeling very sad because she feels that as the bride, she should not have to pay for anything and that asking her to chip in on her own wedding is sad and degrading. Me on the other hand, cannot afford to pay for the entire ceremony for the following reasons.

1. Her mum requests a dowry of 3k+ which is cheap by most standards so I'm not complaining there.
2. Also requests 3 different Ang Pow. Its for tradition but the amount she didn't state yet.
3. Fiancee request Photo shoot worth about 2k++ (Damn expensive for photos you wont look at 6 months after your wedding)
4. The big whooper (Wedding dinner costing about 5k)
Haven't cover the the alcohol, gown rental and much much more...

All this I have to cover because my fiancee feels it is my responsibility...
So within the span of a year, I need to put away slightly over 10k (12 to be safe) only to watch it disappear...
And my fiancee wanna go honeymoon later as well....
Sigh...

I argued with her about this already and no solution in sight...

Damn sad...
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hope next time when married she wont think that as a wife , to chip in into the house or furniture is sad or degrading .
if she wants a honeymoon so much , she should chip you too . Irresponsible .
You people say all these is cheap , i would personally like to see you ppl earn that money .


zacharyyeo
post May 11 2009, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(moorish @ May 11 2009, 11:19 PM)
Obviously someone very insensitive to girls dream
Obviously someone without a gf
thank you, after reading your post you made me really really appreciate my husband
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den i pity ur husband
zacharyyeo
post May 12 2009, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(cracksys @ May 12 2009, 09:08 AM)
i see a lot of idiots actully talks about how cheap it is.

you can't compare cheap or expensive based on you POV. you might be thinking that's cheap because you're in different income bracket compared to TS

its his fiancee mindset that need a major overhaul.
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QUOTE(moorish @ May 12 2009, 09:15 AM)
Dont say like that la, you try to look at things on the parents side, they're handing their daughter to you, means she will be the boys family side, the grandson all follow the boys surname. And its only respectful that you at least compensate back something and this for 2000 years ago has been practice the boy pays the in laws money/gold.

A respectful boy is the boy that I admired.


Added on May 12, 2009, 9:17 am

ask around it is cheap ESPECIALLY IN TOWN....it is still cheap if you compared to Mentakab wedding tongue.gif
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did u pay a single cent for ur wedding ?
zacharyyeo
post May 12 2009, 01:21 PM

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den u are lucky to have a rich husband , not every guy can do that .
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post May 12 2009, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(SPS @ May 12 2009, 04:02 PM)
One of my daughters is already married and no, she did not demand an extravagant wedding from my son-in-law.  Just a simple reception and a buffet dinner.

Both my daughters were taught to be independent and rely on themselves as they had a good education.  No child of mine believes in leeching off others.


Added on May 12, 2009, 4:04 pm
Possibly.
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rclxms.gif good parents raise their children to earn their keep rclxms.gif


even if TS worked hard to save tht 12k , i bet more money problem will come even after they marry .
Wife might not want to help chip in for house loan ? Water bill ? Electric bill ?
TS might die working his ass out .

Yes , its man duty to pay for the food on the table , but isnt it a wifes duty to SUPPORT the husband as well ?

i dont know wheter TS is having a good job with good pay and he is just plain stingy , or he might be working as a waiter working his ass off .
But what i can see from him talking bout his GF that his GF is not willing to support him .

Wheter its guy responbility to pay for marriage its hard to say , bcoz at this era , woman work and earn their keep also , its not 19 century where virgins who don read books are married off at age of 16 .

At this modern age ,
Man and woman are both responsible to bring up their family ,
Woman should help out with financial burden , while man should help out with house chore , upbringing of children , kids tuiton , etc etc .
Man who comes home from work and juz wait for dinner are jerks .

This post has been edited by zacharyyeo: May 12 2009, 06:00 PM
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post May 12 2009, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(SPS @ May 12 2009, 06:12 PM)
Spare us your cheap and inaccurate history lessons about gender conditions.

For quality information regarding gender roles and how education has empowered BOTH men and women, I recommend the following book:

Gender Education & Equality in a Global Context
Conceptual Frameworks and Policy Perspectives
By Shailaja Fennell, Madeleine Arnot

In the 21st century, MORE women are working productively than ever before at any point in history.  BOTH parents take care of their children.
Due primarily to education and a more effective dissemination of quality information.

Read about real social conditions before you debate with me about this subject.
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notworthy.gif u remind me of my DAD LOL
zacharyyeo
post May 12 2009, 08:39 PM

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moorish , simple question .

do you live off ur husband completely 100 % ? or do you pay for ur own stuff like : cloths , makeup , woman stuff etc etc .

just wana know what type of woman you are before debating on this issue , as i believe different people with different living style have different opinion .

nobody opinion is wrong . just different .

a person who is born in a place where ppl are killing each other everyday may think killing is ok . while someone who is born in a place where prostitution is everywhere might actually consider it as a decent respectable job . Eg : Thailand

why SPS and other people may have conflict of thoughts with you maybe because of this .

so i wanna know , what type of woman are you ?
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post May 12 2009, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(monashguy @ May 12 2009, 08:44 PM)
My mom is a housewife so naturally my dad paid for everything, but of course I am not in the right position to comment as my dad used to work as a high position before retiring.  icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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i am trying to point out a point which is .

in this modern time ,
Dad job is not only putting food on the table , but also to help out on the house duties .
Mom job is not only in the house , but also if possible , help out on financial .

Why are there still ppl clingy on the concept man MUST 100% provide , woman must DO HOUSE CHORE amaze me .

i am not saying its wrong for a woman be a housewife if both party are happy with it .

Previous post you said ur dad came home and waited for dinner , wouldnt it be better if smtimes he take time off helping ur mom ?

i dono bout all ur family here , but this is how my family works . and i think its very strong as a family .

tryin to make a point that
A father duty is not merely just food on table , and a mother duty is not merely house chore .
times changes ady .
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post May 12 2009, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(moorish @ May 12 2009, 08:50 PM)
100% on husband icon_rolleyes.gif
But dun blame me...he insist I quit my job and stay at home go shopping rclxm9.gif ,

Anyway we're discussing on general chinese culture here, no?
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its good to find this type of husband smile.gif if i am a girl , i would want to find this type of husband also .
Now i know why our opinion differs so much smile.gif

my mom was not raised in this way , my dad never raise me this way and he taught me to always earn my keep . He has the money to buy me things but choose to only give me the nessescity . and i would say that it made me a better person .
So i grew up watching my mom earning her own keep even for shopping her own cloths and woman stuff and even though dad gave her pocket money and credit card she choose not use it . It made me respect her alot because she is very independant . She also told me if one day my dad leave us she would have money to go on her own .
My mom the champion blush.gif

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