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cwhong
post May 9 2011, 01:40 AM

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QUOTE(mrPOTATO @ May 8 2011, 05:04 PM)
Hi, anyone knows where got contractor do glass countertop ?

http://www.andrasite.com/2010/12/04/cool-f...-by-thinkglass/
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this is not small contractor can do ..... maybe bigger glass decorative panel shops will have this customs made glass top...... try to google around...... should have in KL.... nod.gif
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post May 15 2011, 01:45 AM

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QUOTE(dec08 @ May 11 2011, 10:50 AM)
yes, u can actually did a concrete tabletop with quartz or granite and its look more far better than tiles because granite or quartz come from one big piece and biggest size or should say longest length can go is 10' where tiles always come with joining.
btm cabinets should not be an issue but of course depends on how ur take care off...unless u hire maid to do ur jobs..its ur house anyway...take care of it..
but remind u to get a good contractor to do it, i mean experienced one coz btm part of concrete should always deeper than top to prevent water dripping from sink.
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add some comments here ....... it will cost more if concrete top plus quartz stone/granite nod.gif ....... compare to only use boards carcass.
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post May 15 2011, 01:51 AM

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QUOTE(Mliven @ May 13 2011, 04:35 PM)
I am a potential customer.. still surveying around,

http://www.legendkitchen.com/EPP-valuepackage.asp
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friendly reminder ..... if wanna compare the price compare apple to apple ...... dun just look at the brochure and decide .....

scenario 1 - coz some u may not needed but was included end up paid more
scenario 2 - what u want may not included in the packages
scenario 3 - if two of the above included then the price will be adjusted brows.gif

compare the materials like glass, melamine board, arcylic, plywood by ask the price in per foot run/pfr in short. foot = feet same meaning dun confuse. icon_idea.gif



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post May 17 2011, 02:55 AM

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QUOTE(lazzy_dogg @ May 16 2011, 09:05 PM)
Thanks for your advice.... actually i am still not sure whether do use the concrete top or just board carcass.... cuz i dont plan to have a wet kitchen.... i am worried that if i wash the granite /quartz often then the carcass will give way eventually.... i was planning to do is to have concrete top and raised concrete for the bottom cabinet because of the water but its really not cheap.... would the wood carcass would be good enuf if lets say, washing the granite top and wet mopping..... thanks
wash into what extend? wet wash (wash with water/rinse) or dry wash (wipe with damp cloth) acutally it's depend on ur budgets.....if limited budgets then u can have a concrete top first then only install cabinets when required/funds is sufficient.... as the concrete top will actually last u for life so it does worth it if u do not want to have headache every 5-7yrs..... just to let u know u also can add granite/quartz stone after 10yrs bored with the tiles design on top of the concrete top so it will give u a feel good mood again.

Beauty and Durability is always cannot match one....... think at ur own.
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post May 18 2011, 01:42 AM

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QUOTE(ggee_7 @ May 18 2011, 12:49 AM)
Been following this thread from page 1. Finally finished reading all 68 pages as of tonight .  rclxms.gif

I'd like to know, anyone has any idea how to combine the contemporary look and resort/natural look for living room and kitchen cabinet? I love both theme but still can't decide which one to choose for my condo. If i can combine both, better  rclxm9.gif  Thanks for your input  notworthy.gif
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did u found any in the magazine? if none then why wanna make ur investment as an experiment?
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post May 18 2011, 01:59 AM

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if colour scheme u can place it in different sections like kitchen one section (not suite for open kitchen), living and dining another....... different room different sections for the colour scheme/tones is alright....
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QUOTE(smooth9 @ May 21 2011, 03:10 AM)
Hello,

I have noticed that most kitchen cabinet shop will do other carpentry works such as shoe shelves, table, etc. I am wondering if it is normal for Kitchen Cabinet shop to do carpentry works for commercial as well? the carpentry price that the ID quoted is too much, we are hoping to just stick to paying the ID for drawing only and employ our own sub cons for the job, I do have other reliable contractors contacts for other works, but am missing the last piece of the jigsaw puzzle - carpenters...  blink.gif

I do have the dimension, drawings, measurements etc, just need to find a good carpenter, or will the Kitchen Cabinet shop also able to do a good job like cashier counter table (spray paint with glass), shelving (spray paint) and metal rods (powder coated) for hanging clothes, it is for a fashion boutique. Thank you very much in advance notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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normally boutique was using formica or plywood type ...... reason very simple bcoz of the striking and eyes catching colours only can be done using these two different materials ......normally is showrooms, boutique or saloon will do the same to attracts more clients/customers ..... the following will help u to choose the carpenters which is most suited to your boutique ....... in the markets generally will have two different ppl was doing the carpentry works

1: chipboards (solid board)
2: plywoods (framing type)

very rare can find someone can do both of them, coz the method and the machinery to get the works done generally is very differents. plywoods type needs a lots of hand-on skills while chipboards generally more machines dependent. like the spray paints glass u mention above falls on plywoods type, so start looking/asking from this points should be easier for u to find someone to do the works. hope this will help....... brows.gif
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QUOTE(bteoh @ May 22 2011, 10:50 AM)
interesting....
may i ask....if doing the same amount of length kitchen - for the different in above 1 & 2, how much would it cost ? say 1 cost rm5k...what 2 will cost?
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ok, make myself clear actually plywood got few different category as below....

1: Full Plywood - body/carcass and doors was using plywood
2: Partial plywood - carcass melamine board and doors used plywood
3: Formica with plywood body/carcass

options 1 have veneer plywood (artificial / natural), plywood can have many different grains/species ..... like nyatoh, semangkok, sen, oak, pine, maple and etc etc etc ..... all this was in the option 1 category ..... so really hard to tell which is how much just as thats without specify what u need. but generally for options 1 can be around 40-60% more than melamine board if really have to give a figures..... but if this goes to ID then the price may go higher cost the will provide u the design and coordinations process.........


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QUOTE(smooth9 @ May 23 2011, 12:39 AM)
Hi cwhong,

Thank you very much for your detailed explanation, you are right spot on that the project required a plywood carpenter, seems like the carpenter that we shall look for is a carpenter who does fully plywood, as the design is using spraypaint, glass per your first post, and nyatoh finishing per your second post on some of the furniture. At least we now have a direction... thanks for showing us the light cwhong, really appreciated it. Now, the next step is to search for relevent carpenter, cheers smile.gif
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post May 25 2011, 12:35 AM

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QUOTE(mrsdayana @ May 23 2011, 01:47 PM)
What the different between granite & solid surface?
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Granite (play /ˈɡrænɪt/) is a common and widely occurring type of intrusive, felsic, igneous rock. Granites usually have a medium- to coarse-grained texture. Occasionally some individual crystals (phenocrysts) are larger than the groundmass, in which case the texture is known as porphyritic. A granitic rock with a porphyritic texture is sometimes known as a porphyry. Granites can be pink to gray in color, depending on their chemistry and mineralogy. By definition, granite is an igneous rock with at least 20% quartz by volume. Granite differs from granodiorite in that at least 35% of the feldspar in granite is alkali feldspar as opposed to plagioclase; it is the alkali feldspar that gives many granites a distinctive pink color. Outcrops of granite tend to form tors and rounded massifs. Granites sometimes occur in circular depressions surrounded by a range of hills, formed by the metamorphic aureole or hornfels. Granite is usually found in the continental plates of the Earth's crust.

Granite is nearly always massive (lacking internal structures), hard and tough, and therefore it has gained widespread use as a construction stone. The average density of granite is between 2.65[1] and 2.75 g/cm3, its compressive strength usually lies above 200 MPa, and its viscosity at standard temperature and pressure is 3-6 • 1019 Pa·s.[2]

The word granite comes from the Latin granum, a grain, in reference to the coarse-grained structure of such a crystalline rock.

Granitoid is a general, descriptive field term for light-colored, coarse-grained igneous rocks. Petrographic examination is required for identification of specific types of granitoids.[3]



Solid Surface is a man-made material usually composed of bauxite, acrylic or polyester resins and pigments. It is most frequently used for seamless countertop installations, such as with cultured marble.
Solid surface is a non-porous low-maintenance countertop surface. It can mimic the appearance of stone, wood and other naturally occurring materials, and can be joined invisibly by a trained craftsman. Typically manufactured in sheet form for fabrication into finished countertops, solid surface can also be cast into a variety of shapes, including sinks, shower pans and bathtubs. Sheet goods can also be heated and bent into three-dimensional shapes using a process called thermoforming, which adds to the versatility of the product.

In a residential setting, solid surface can be used as kitchen countertops, bathroom vanity tops, and shower and tub surrounds. Countertop fabricators typically join solid surface sheets into desired shapes using a two-part adhesive, after which the cured joint is machined flat. The same method is used to create extra thick edges, which can be machined using tools and techniques similar to those used to work hardwoods.

A major appeal of solid surface is its seamless nature. Solid surface sinks, such as with cultured marble, can be joined to the countertop surface with no gaps, which eliminates areas for water to collect and bacteria to grow. Integral backsplashes can also be created that follow the contours of the wall “seamlessly” and without gaps.

Should the material become scratched or broken, solid surface can, in most cases, be repaired quickly by a trained fabricator. Because the surface is solid throughout, a countertop that has undergone years of wear and tear can be refinished. The installed product is available in a variety of finishes, ranging from matte to high-gloss, although most manufacturers recommend a matte or satin finish for ease of maintenance.
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QUOTE(MindSanctus @ May 25 2011, 01:43 AM)
those of you guys who are into kitchen surfaces too; have a look at this.

Ceaser Stone  thumbup.gif
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it's actually quartz stone which already have in the markets ..... best among the best thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Eleganz Concept @ Jun 11 2011, 11:44 PM)
There is almost the same price now a day.
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Not really bro, granite start frome 170. Quartz starts from 210 ranges of course both colour dependance.
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QUOTE(Eleganz Concept @ Jun 12 2011, 10:27 PM)
Well, not really, i been using, while the price is almost the same.
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Local for both of them?
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@transforma smile.gif so what is the issues if there is no roots for proof? I dunno whether this personal attacks bcoz of something else but I think should put it to rest if it's just to defame. IMHO forum is for sharing but shares what is correct info is more welcome. Tq smile.gif
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QUOTE(sue.chan @ Jun 23 2011, 11:01 PM)
signature : high end
rowenta : no idea
kian classic : my fren used b4 and commented "not bad"...
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ROWENTA = high end but their english styles KC is their signature...... brows.gif
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QUOTE(Skydrop @ Jul 20 2011, 10:42 AM)
Hi,

I have one question to all kc experts.  Is there a possibility of water sipping into the kc where the sink & tap is located? If yes, how do you deal with it?  Kitchen top use tiles finishing.

Thanks
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check the source of leakage first only then find a solutions for it .....

example..
- leak at splash back ..... between ur wall and concrete top
- leak at the undermount sink/bowls, check the water proof silicone if it's still attached firmly....
- leak at the pipe joining itself ......
- leak at the stop cork .......

many more possibilities ..... but anyone of that above still have to ask the respective specialist to get the job done.....
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QUOTE(chris5579 @ Jul 27 2011, 07:17 PM)
Abs melamine board is abs chipboard
fibre is using sleeves of wood skin to compress to be board
this 2 material is not water proof and hard
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BROTHER !!! u notice the date of the thread posted? shocking.gif it's "QUOTE(KingHenry14 @ May 11 2009, 10:26 AM)" long long time ago ...... cool2.gif


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QUOTE(lowlowc @ Aug 9 2011, 06:19 PM)
Sue.chan, Serofax, i'll continue to scout for other kc with free measuring.  kiv my current kc and tell them I want measuring, 3d drawing and quotation before paying. My colleague actually laughed at me, saying she only pay rm50 booking and everthing after job done.
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this is unbelievable only rm 50 to start until finish then only collect the balance ??? must be kidding ahhhh !! hmm.gif
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QUOTE(papaya2 @ Aug 9 2011, 10:23 PM)
hmm.gif sometime very doubt to try out there because dont know the feedback, here at least know something as some forumers have tried.
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yupp this i support too ...... a lots of ppl out there play the tricks like for the materials they used and twisted some of the facts also like water proof melamine board doh.gif a lots more which i dun even wan to list it out ..... icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(lowlowc @ Aug 9 2011, 10:27 AM)
A forumer posted this question before but no answer given. My kc installer ask for 10% to book them (before coming to measure). After measurement they want me to give 50%. Is this a standard payment term in this line? For ppl already install kc, did you hold on some payment until you're sure therr's no defect after 2 weeks?

Need answer asap because I need to pay booking tml. If 10% I would be paying 900.

That day I asked whether I can get the quotation once pay 10%, they said no need cause it's just an estimation. Final quotation only give after measurement. Is this safe? Sorry, no offence to honest contractor/kc installer out there. It's just that I had bad experience before.
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WOW a lot of queries!! ok one by one. most of the standard approach for walk-in customers to showroom they will ask u to provide a floor plan and they will estimate the costs of the cabinet, once u're satisfy with the material thinggy then they will ask u to have booking fees to enable them to go over ur house to take the measurements once measurement confirmed then then the quote is OK then deal have to place 40-50% from the total amount to lock in and the works shud proceed to the factory > order the materials > waiting for the installations > all DONE > balance payments. that's the lower and medium end KC manufacturer practices. Higher end confirmed before measurement already 30-40% once measurement done the 3D drawing was completed then before installation already call for 2nd payment 30-40% again > everything done > final payment. AS I SAID IN PREVIOUS COMMENT RM 50 deposit until DONE only pay balance is UNBELIEVABLE !!!

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