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 Fallacy about long fund, hedge fund & fund manager, 90% fund managers do worst than you!

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SUSKinitos
post May 16 2009, 10:11 AM

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" 1. Long funds are passively killed in the market in bear market but cant outperform in bull market because they are followers and inability to realized the profit. "


Rock , all forumers here appreciate your further understanding of our statement above taking into accounts the questions below,

Unit trust fund are regulated investment fund not unregulated private trading fund.
Give us some examples of investments you personally managed that consistently outperform the bull market. How and by what measure/method it can outperform the bull market.
Explain your perception "they are followers and inability to realized the profit"



SUSKinitos
post May 17 2009, 06:01 PM

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the problems now is all the forumers thinks this guy is a fake.

"working his entire life with fund management"?
It is perfectly logical a person may spent his entire life in fund management but knows NOTHING

gossips is now flying around that this guy job is removing
pile of dung left over by fund management workers.

SUSKinitos
post May 19 2009, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(rockcrawler @ May 19 2009, 08:16 PM)
Hi everyone,

keep shorting the market today......short Hang Seng Index Futures at 17400 again, big short here.  Tomorrow get some big cap to ex-dividend, including HSBC.  I guess this rally is the biggest and the only one in this year, everybody please fasten your seat belt.  Have you prepare to see the worst in the coming few months?  Have you prepare to buy when you see the worst, rather being scared your shit out? 

Remember:  Don't be too excited when you see the market going up crazy! Don't be scare when you see people commit suicide during the downturn of bear market!  When you see blood on the street, it's time to buy crazy.

Rock


Added on May 19, 2009, 8:29 pm

Yes, since they are being regulated, so are bounded by guidelines and i said in this forum that the market structure has changed to be so efficient so that the ordinary long and hedge fund managers (who are usually at least 40-50 yrs old people and they are so dump) cant adapt to the change.  I worked with some old fund managers before that they keep their old way of thinking (mainly very very stubborn long bias view) and just like a deer in the headlight, do nothing in the bear market.  These old fashion managers would keep at 40-50% investment actively in equities and wait to see the share prices going to toilet until 60-70% loss then stopped.  I'm telling those guys that this world is no longer belong to you.  It's our market, traders' market, traders with extensive knowledge to everything in the world.
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In local context it's understood by default when they said unit trust fund, it's always long trust fund as locally naked short doesn't apply. Almost all trust funds are limited to the following instruments:equities,money markets,bonds. The fact that majority of the funds are equities trusts, there are required by funds mandate/objectives to be stay invested regardless of bull or bear market in shares or warrants at least 80% - 90% of fund investable assets.

Under such senario, is it still applicable for you to said "Long funds are passively killed in the market in bear market"

Of course yes there are in a way, but these are long term investment funds and the shares in portfolio are selected based on their fundamental basis not price/volume momentum like speculators would trade.

what we would like to hear from you is how you would drive these funds performance chart flying UP instead of flying down since you disagreed with most fund managers way of doing things.


SUSKinitos
post May 24 2009, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ May 23 2009, 11:56 AM)

5,6,7,8) The concept is same running a company business, you are the boss, you hired worker and paid the salary, no matter the business is profitable or not. Major complaint of this issue is from high initial service charge of 5-6% and annual management of 1.5%, which seems a bit high, more related to 8

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If these is an issue, how about considering boutique funds like Singular Asset Management and many others catering for investors that are more sophisticated and had higher risk tolerance (high net worth private investors).


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post May 27 2009, 10:33 PM

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Well done, you guys actually are putting words in his mouth. Has he contribute anything? He knows NOTHING AGAIN

Things he said about hedge funds is totally wrong. All hedge funds are not for the general public, the Mad Dog Fund??? who are the victims? the average joe in the streets?

In short "Hedge funds are privately organized, loosely regulated and professionally managed pools of capitals not widely available to the public".

Example : A private equity team has agreed to buy BankUnited's banking operations

This post has been edited by Kinitos: May 27 2009, 10:46 PM

 

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