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post Jul 25 2010, 10:40 AM

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I feel that there should be compulsory verification by relevant third party before categorized any receivables as "bad debt written off" or "allowance for doubtful debt"...
will some large amount that someone owe you just been categorized as bad debt and gone with no legal action action taken???
I don't buy that!!


don't worry..saag only have 401 employees
SAAG Consolidated (M) Berhad Key Data:

Ticker: SAAG Country: MALAYSIA

Exchanges: KUL Major Industry: Oil, Gas, Coal & Related Services

Sub Industry: Miscellaneous Oil, Gas & Coal

2009 Sales 160,532,436
(Year Ending Jan 2010). Employees: 401

Currency: Malaysian Ringgits Market Cap: 124,226,066

Fiscal Yr Ends: December Shares Outstanding: 1,552,825,820

Share Type: Ordinary Closely Held Shares: 144,805,840


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post Sep 6 2010, 03:28 AM

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more shares issued = percentage / share from the total share capital become diluted = nta become lesser...
rights issue price is RM0.08, but will give you SAAG-WA foc to encourage you to subscribe to the rights share...
if not nobody will buy the rights share at RM0.08, as the market only trading for RM0.06...
on the other hand, i don't think they will make the price nicer, coz the MD only held less than 5% which makes him the 2nd large shareholder of SAAG (1st is Doraley which keeps on disposing their portion lately).
most of SAAG's share is in the hands of retailer a.k.a public a.k.a. small fish which explains why the price only moving in 1 direction for more than 1 year since July 2009....

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post Sep 6 2010, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(monkeyking @ Sep 6 2010, 04:02 AM)
icon_rolleyes.gif Have they quoted or stated the rights price yet??....nothing I had found so far. icon_question.gif
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ya...they already did so...but this involve some simple calculation... tongue.gif
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post Sep 6 2010, 10:01 PM

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last struggle of funding to pay off debts...
if the rights share isn't fully subscribed & the underwriter refuse to buy the rest, it will definitely falls into PN17...
same case with OILCORP, receivables is way toooo high which would become so called "doubtful debt" anytime soon...
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post Sep 7 2010, 08:06 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Sep 6 2010, 11:50 PM)
How can company issue right issue at a price below the par value of the shares??
In this issue, the Par Value is Rm0.10, the least right issue price is Rm0.10.
Can SC approve the right issue price at Rm0.08? rclxub.gif

Issue right at RM0.08 with Par Value means you are straight away making a loss of Rm0.02 in the process in the account book.  sweat.gif
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because market only traded it's share 60%-65% of its par value..
so no choice.... smile.gif
their proposal is RM0.08 / rights share.
confirmed...


Added on September 7, 2010, 8:07 am
QUOTE(rosdi1 @ Sep 7 2010, 12:40 AM)
or they will go to court to request for capital reduction to 0.05 and than right at 0.08 plus warrant.
That how to do it.
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this might be the way they would use.. tongue.gif
rights issue = insufficient money...
where got money to jack up the price??
their MD holds less than 5% only..

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post Sep 16 2010, 09:24 PM

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More share issued..First Stafford, then Doraley, now GEM... doh.gif
Never ending story....It is not a good news..
Keep on generating cash, but where all these cash goes?
Going to the so called "receivables"...
I think you know what i mean...

"Under the proposed deal, SAAG may at its discretion require GEM Global to subscribe for SAAG shares of up to RM20 million over a period of up to three years from the date of signing the definitive agreement."

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post Nov 16 2010, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(MakanTidurSaham @ Nov 16 2010, 06:26 PM)
Well, this stock already hit rock bottom lor.

You want to wait for the news to come out then only you buy ar? Too late already lor.

Now, where got honest trading one, everybody inside (fund manager, company's big boss, big player, investment firm), all play insider trading, news belum come out stock price already fly up in the sky lor. You want to wait for the news to come out ar, can. Entry price 0.150 - 0.20 lah.
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Like what warren buffet always said, buy when there're blood in the street, and there're pools of blood in the street for this particular stock.

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More tips: People like Zaman and his gangs SAPUING everyday.
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i like the bolded part... tongue.gif
well...you know...
there's an massacre around MEGB this few days...
blood all around....so time to go in??
based on your .....ahem ... buffet theory

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post Nov 17 2010, 02:50 AM

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QUOTE(MakanTidurSaham @ Nov 16 2010, 11:43 PM)
This thread is about SAAG, my analysis is entirely based on SAAG.

Sjz says Warren Buffet theory no good?? Wow, priceless jokes. As far as I'm concern, mr buffet was spot on when he made that "blood on the street" statement and he told people to buy during Dow jones at 6000, 7000, 8000 level.

Why speculators tends to spread fears to scare buyers when stocks like SAAG which has no major issue with company over sold? Because those speculators wants to buy back shares already they previously sold. They can't buy back if you and me don't sell. They can't profit if they not able to buy back shares that they already sold at a higher price. So they don't want you to buy.

This is a MUST BUY stock if you want to make some money to recover your lost on other stocks.
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haha....
i wonder did buffet invest in -ahem-ahem- penny penny stock like this 1... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
his theory most probably only applies to blue chip company with sustainable growth every year.
u know how buffet he himself investigate a company before he invest in it?
he rely much on information not shown to public.... whistling.gif whistling.gif

and buffet's theory won't work on klse...najib's theory will... drool.gif drool.gif


Added on November 17, 2010, 2:52 am
QUOTE(zamans98 @ Nov 16 2010, 11:47 PM)
okay, let's hear your basis of MUST BUY. So far, for this year, I've been SPOT on regarding the price of 8cts.
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ppl say must buy...strong buy..short sell...blah blah blah for more than 1 year...
still saying the same thing... flex.gif flex.gif
wonder what's his ABP, since he bought so many container since 20 cts.

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post Nov 17 2010, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(MakanTidurSaham @ Nov 17 2010, 12:31 PM)
Thank you for your support skiddtrader.

My comments on SAAG significantly affecting their games on manipulating the stock price of SAAG. That's why you see them spending so much time debating me on SAAG.

These people are quietly buying back up all SAAG's share now with multiple CDS account with different brokers in various investment firms.
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wow...the greatest stock manipulation in Bursa's history... thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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post Aug 18 2011, 08:20 PM

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QUOTE(Quigonbond @ Aug 10 2011, 03:48 PM)
The management/major shareholders have been buying back like nobody's business in recent times (the impairment back in May definitely helping them - hence is it creative accounting? Perhaps). They've attempted rights issue/placement that got shot down by their shareholders earlier. How do these events gel?

1) If they act in good faith and really want more money for their operations (which they are not getting from any rights/placement exercise), perhaps the only way is to:
a) deflate the market price
b) buy back loads of shares
c) impairment having been dealt with in the last quarter, the next quarter will look distinctively better
d) throw in a new project, might even look positive
e) that's when they'll attempt to make a killing, then use the money for rights/placement exercise
(the question is - the price is already so low now, with infusion of new shares, surely the price will be further diluted - so issuing at 10sen seems far-fetched - why would any shareholder want to get additional shares at so high a premium?)

The people who got screwed worse are the investors who ditched the shares while the price is at the lowest ebb. The next batch of investors getting screwed big time are those who wait for the placement/rights issue to happen.

2) alternatively, the company is really going south and headed for pn status soon

The first possibility looks more likely to me because if the company is headed south, what's the point of pouring more of their own money to buy junk shares?

Any thoughts?
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if they still want private placement to take place, they CONFIRM 100% will need to cancel the PAR Value of their share.
as currently their PAR Value is RM0.10 make issuing new shares less than RM0.10 impossible.
while issuing private placement shares at RM0.10 is ridiculous as well...
which idiot would want to buy private placement at premium of almost 40% of open market traded price??
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post Oct 18 2012, 03:53 PM

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wonder how much makantidursaham sell his saag share....>.<...
the main problem for saag is the booming receivables and amount due from contracts work (those company are really their clients?? whistling.gif whistling.gif ), just like OILCORP, Vastalux and Muhibah those rubbish company

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