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styrwr91
post Jun 10 2009, 07:43 AM

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QUOTE(thermo_reseat @ Jun 10 2009, 12:11 AM)
polytechnic there = University level in m'sia

but sg local usually enrol in  polytech by the ages of 15 IINM
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its 17...u wil need minimum O-level results

in singapore, they have 5 polytechnics namely,
Ngee Ann Polytechnic (NP)
Nanyang Polytechnic (NYP)
Singapore Polytechnic (SP)
Temasik Polytechnic (TP) &
Republic Polytechic (RP)

you can google them, and it will direct you to their mainpage.
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post Jun 10 2009, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(styrwr91 @ Jun 10 2009, 07:43 AM)
its 17...u wil need minimum O-level results

in singapore, they have 5 polytechnics namely,
Ngee Ann Polytechnic (NP)
Nanyang Polytechnic (NYP)
Singapore Polytechnic (SP)
Temasik Polytechnic (TP) &
Republic Polytechic (RP)

you can google them, and it will direct you to their mainpage.
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Thanks for da info bro... Really appreciate it.
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post Jun 10 2009, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(ghodul @ Jun 10 2009, 08:12 AM)
Thanks for da info bro... Really appreciate it.
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bt then, for foreigners...applying for engineering courses is much easier. unles you hve an excellent result, dun ever apply for business courses. u wil get pwned
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post Jun 11 2009, 08:27 AM

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QUOTE(styrwr91 @ Jun 10 2009, 10:12 PM)
bt then, for foreigners...applying for engineering courses is much easier. unles you hve an excellent result, dun ever apply for business courses. u wil get pwned
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Thats kinda weird. In Malaysia or some other country, engineering courses is much tough to get place compare to business courses.
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post Jun 11 2009, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(ghodul @ Jun 11 2009, 08:27 AM)
Thats kinda weird. In Malaysia or some other country, engineering courses is much tough to get place compare to business courses.
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bcuz many applied for engineering courses with the mindset of engineering courses are for smarter people. but read the news, business peole getting fired? NO, its the technicians and engineers who gets dismissed. think aain when applying for course.

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post Jun 12 2009, 07:47 PM

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eih... did any people know about poly of MSK for the new student intake?
how was it? it need stay at school for three day right?
wat activity will going on during MSK?!


Added on June 15, 2009, 11:14 pmdid it no any people can answer my question??

This post has been edited by kicko0o: Jun 15 2009, 11:14 PM
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QUOTE(kicko0o @ Jun 12 2009, 07:47 PM)
eih... did any people know about poly of MSK for the new student intake?
how was it? it need stay at school for three day right?
wat activity will going on during MSK?!


Added on June 15, 2009, 11:14 pmdid it no any people can answer my question??
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sorry bro but i don't think anyone here knows about the event
=D
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post Jun 17 2009, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(yogeschado @ Jun 17 2009, 04:39 AM)
sorry bro but i don't think anyone here knows about the event
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Kk..... nvm.....
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post Jun 18 2009, 12:48 AM

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why not try to giv them a call?
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QUOTE(kicko0o @ Jun 12 2009, 07:47 PM)
eih... did any people know about poly of MSK for the new student intake?
how was it? it need stay at school for three day right?
wat activity will going on during MSK?!


Added on June 15, 2009, 11:14 pmdid it no any people can answer my question??
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The program is just to show how polytech rules, the life in polytech and how to settle things and problems when u study there. In the period, all student must stay at KAMSIS (Kampus Siswa).
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post Jun 19 2009, 03:56 PM

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what makes the difference between polytechnic students and university students? do polytechnic students get degree too or diploma?


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QUOTE(OMG! @ Jun 19 2009, 03:56 PM)
what makes the difference between polytechnic students and university students? do polytechnic students get degree too or diploma?
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my school only offers diploma. dont know about others.
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QUOTE(OMG! @ Jun 19 2009, 03:56 PM)
what makes the difference between polytechnic students and university students? do polytechnic students get degree too or diploma?
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In Malaysia, polytechnic just offer certificate and diploma only.
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post Jun 25 2009, 10:31 PM

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eih... after register... when we will start study? how long time after we register?
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post Jun 25 2009, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(ghodul @ Jun 19 2009, 05:54 PM)
In Malaysia, polytechnic just offer certificate and diploma only.
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Polytechnic Diplomas offer you much more flexibility as it allows to to either continue to your degree or join the job market as soon as you complete your diploma.

A diploma student usually takes 1-2 more years longer to earn a degree compared to the traditional university path after your form 6.

The extra years will allow you to acquire more skills which are related to what you intend to pursue.

However, you can't really compare Malaysian upgraded polytechnics with Singapore's. Ours are more like degree paper mills which aims to release as many graduates as they can into the market with the intention of earning money.

There's a very big difference between a Singaporean polytechnic diploma holder and a Malaysian degree holder.
You can be very surprise who will perform better among the 2 students.
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QUOTE(kicko0o @ Jun 25 2009, 10:31 PM)
eih... after register... when we will start study? how long time after we register?
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it shud be a week of orientation then the studies wud start..i think so

QUOTE(cameltoe @ Jun 25 2009, 10:42 PM)
Polytechnic Diplomas offer you much more flexibility as it allows to to either continue to your degree or join the job market as soon as you complete your diploma.

A diploma student usually takes 1-2 more years longer to earn a degree compared to the traditional university path after your form 6.

The extra years will allow you to acquire more skills which are related to what you intend to pursue.

However, you can't really compare Malaysian upgraded polytechnics with Singapore's. Ours are more like degree paper mills which aims to release as many graduates as they can into the market with the intention of earning money.

There's a very big difference between a Singaporean polytechnic diploma holder and a Malaysian degree holder.
You can be very surprise who will perform better among the 2 students.
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woohoo POLYTECHHNIC ownz!..is it true that u cud start workin as soon as u finish ur diploma?
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QUOTE(yogeschado @ Jun 26 2009, 12:57 AM)
it shud be a week of orientation then the studies wud start..i think so
woohoo POLYTECHHNIC ownz!..is it true that u cud start workin as soon as u finish ur diploma?
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In this times, yeah diploma holders stand a better chance in getting jobs compared to degree holder when ti comes to common jobs such as sales, technicians and lower management positions.

This article came out in Singapore's Straits Times
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Diploma holders beating grads to jobs  

BEIJING, CHINA - Getting a university degree used to be seen in China as a golden ticket to a good job and a good life. Now, a vocational diploma may be more lucrative for some.

Take Ms Yang Yanting, who just took the gao kao, or university entrance exams, last week. The relative ease of diploma holders in finding a job, compared to the difficulties faced by university graduates amid the economic slowdown, is making the route seem more attractive for the 18-year-old.

'I'm thinking of learning technical skills at a vocational institute. At least it's cheaper and I'll be assured of a job when I graduate,' she said.

Once considered the dumping ground for students with the poorest grades, vocational schools are getting more attention as data shows that more than 95 per cent of middle vocational school students landed jobs upon graduation last year.

In contrast, more than 12 per cent of college graduates failed to find work, the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences estimated.

Monthly salaries for last year's graduates from China's 2,100 'non-elite universities' also slid 11 per cent to an average of 2,000 yuan (S$425), while pay for vocational school graduates dropped just 5 per cent to 1,600 yuan.

This may reflect the preference of some local companies for hiring cheaper graduates during the economic crisis, said Ms Zhu Hongyan, an executive at Beijing employment agency Zhaopin.

Beijing Computer Industry vocational school student Liu Zhongyang, 19, is confident that he will not have a problem getting a job after graduation.

Most of his classmates who graduated found jobs with monthly salaries of between 1,000 yuan and 2,000 yuan in their first year. Those with the best grades are earning 4,000 yuan to 5,000 yuan, he added.

Currently, more than 30 million students go to middle and higher vocational institutions across China; the same number as those attending mainstream high schools and universities.

China is investing more to develop vocational training. Between 2006 and next year, it would have poured 14 billion yuan into the system.

Until recently, the bulk of investments had gone into boosting university education, as China looked to highly educated citizens to upgrade its economy beyond basic manufacturing to tertiary industries.

China's universities have boosted enrolment by as much as 30 per cent a year over the last decade, reaching 21.5 million last year. But this year, there was a sharp drop in applicants for the gao kao.

Shandong province, for instance, reported a drop of 100,000 applicants, to 700,000. Shanghai saw a nearly 20 per cent drop to 83,000, said Xinhua news agency. Enrolment at vocational schools rose to 8.6 million this year from 8.1 million last year.

The contrast reflects not just the impact of the downturn, it also hints at the shifting attitudes towards vocational education, said headhunters.

With 6.12 million new college graduates pouring into the job market next month to compete for work with the 920,000 who have been unemployed since last July, some parents are rethinking their bias against vocational schools.

'Now I don't think a vocational education is not as good or shameful,' said Ms Xiao Weihong, whose 18-year-old son Wang Nuoya will take his university entrance exams next year. 'The real loss of face is when the graduate cannot find a job!'
http://www.asiaone.com/News/Education/Stor...622-150061.html

Employers are contemplating why should they hire degree holders when polytechnic diploma holders can handle the same jobs as them with a salary of a few hundred dollars less? You need to know though that a Singaporean polytechnic diploma holder can be just as knowledgeable as a Malaysian degree holder.I've seen their syllabus and mind you their exams are much tougher and comprehensive.


Added on June 26, 2009, 1:12 am
QUOTE(thermo_reseat @ Jun 10 2009, 12:11 AM)
polytechnic there = University level in m'sia

but sg local usually enrol in  polytech by the ages of 15 IINM
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This is absolutely true.
Their exam paper questions can be tougher than our local degree papers.
Very competitive.

An employer will have higher regards for a Singaporean Polytechnic student who continued on with his degree in university.
The right skills needed for the right job line.

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Then how about the lecturers in polytechnice compared to IPTA??

does the lecturers in poly carry out research??
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QUOTE(OMG! @ Jun 26 2009, 09:29 AM)
Then how about the lecturers in polytechnice compared to IPTA??

does the lecturers in poly carry out research??
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IMHO, Poly lect didn't carry out any research inside. Bcoz lot of them only in degree level. Quite alot for masters. and rare for PhD.
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SKIM LATIHAN TENAGA PENGAJAR POLITEKNIK DAN KOLEJ KOMUNITI

Program Biasiswa Skim Latihan Tenaga Pengajar (SLTP) yang diuruskan oleh Bahagian Biasiswa, Kementerian Pengajian Tinggi adalah satu program bagi menyediakan bekalan tenaga pengajar terlatih untuk berkhidmat di Politeknik dan Kolej Komuniti.

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SYARAT-SYARAT PERMOHONAN

Tawaran hanya sah kepada Warganegara Malaysia sahaja;
Pemohon yang berjaya di dalam temuduga sahaja adalah layak menerima tawaran biasiswa SLTP;
Pemohon tidak boleh mempunyai penaja lain;
Cemerlang dalam akademik; dan
Aktif dalam aktiviti kokurikulum semasa di kolej/ universitii.

ELAUN / KEMUDAHAN

Yuran pengajian ditanggung sepenuhnya;
Elaun Sara Hidup sebanyak RM4,700.00 setahun;
Elaun Buku setiap tahun;
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Elaun Tesis sekali sepanjang pengajian (jika pengajian melibatkan tesis);
Elaun Kertas Projek setiap tahun;
Elaun Latihan Praktikal; dan
Tambang perjalanan bagi penuntut Semenanjung yang berkursus di Sabah dan Sarawak, dan penuntut dari Sabah dan Sarawak yang berkursus di Semenanjung


Look like being a lecture in polytecnic not bad at all.=0

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