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 AMD® Socket AM2&AM3 Overclocking V17, The secret is yet to be unleashed...

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dblooi
post May 1 2009, 10:58 AM

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hi folks, long time no see
I get something surprise lately brows.gif
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But can't test for now as i don't have any am3 cpu cry.gif



dblooi
post May 1 2009, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ May 1 2009, 10:59 AM)
Haha..Our master looking for proc.. tongue.gif
Ask verdict,he has his proc laying.. whistling.gif
Its MSI ~.~ hawt!
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~.~hawt stands for?
Acorrding to trusted source, they have korek some elites from other manufacturer ....
Don't you think the design is much differ from usual MSI boards? icon_idea.gif
I have high expectation on this board tongue.gif
dblooi
post May 7 2009, 10:17 AM

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new am3 user reporting in tongue.gif

My setup wub.gif
CPU: AMD P2 955BE ( Thanks bro verdict wub.gif ), cooled by Coolermaster Aquagate Max
RAM: Kingston HyperX 1800 Tri Channel kit ( use 2 sticks only)
Mobo: MSI 790FX GD70
GC: Sapphire HD4830 X2 CrossFire
Hardisk: Patriot WARP V2 Solid state Disk 32GB X2 RAID 0
PSU: Gigabyte ODIN Pro 800W
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First attempt, All stock settings, single card
3dMark06 scores 11881 3dmarks.
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later on, slot in another card and CF enabled. All default settings
3dmark06 scores 17188 3dmarks.
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The score seems a bit too low, start oc the cpu
At stock vcore, oc to 3.7GHz, memory ratio set to 1:4. Memory sub timings TRC set to 26.The rest remains default.
3dmark06 scores 18958 3dmarks. Looks better
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Now vcore pump to 1.4v, clockspeed drag to 3.8GHz, GPU clock oc to 650MHz.
3dmark06 scores 19703 3dmarks. Close to 20k barrier now.
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Used the onboard oc knot to top up 3 HTT, GPU oc to 670MHz. Overriding 20k barrier tongue.gif
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1.4v@ 3.9GHz is not stable enough to pass 3dmark06.
Hence i only have super pi 1M result here sad.gif
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I know, some are waiting for 4GHz result, here you go laugh.gif
4GHz@ 1.41v Super Pi 1M completed.
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Will play with DICE or LN2 overclocking tomorrow if everything goes smoothly

This post has been edited by dblooi: May 7 2009, 10:25 AM
dblooi
post May 7 2009, 10:29 AM

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Complain a bit here,
the SB750 has poor RAID 0 performance cry.gif
2x SSD RAID 0 only produce reading speed at 100MB/s (No ss) rclxub.gif

and WTH design such stupid software?
You need to enter User name & Password in order to use AMD RAIDXPERT rclxub.gif doh.gif
AMD should send the developer to hell vmad.gif
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dblooi
post May 7 2009, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ May 7 2009, 10:29 AM)
very nice bench there bro, bout d 4.0GHz barrier, perhaps lower multi can help? denebs for sure is fun to play with eh?  laugh.gif
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I don't see any difference, and did i mention 4GHz is a barrier? tongue.gif
Just that it's getting late so i turn off the pc and go to sleep.
Will try again tonight. icon_rolleyes.gif
dblooi
post May 7 2009, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ May 7 2009, 10:44 AM)
what i meant was d stability issue w/ high multi such as 20x bro. i found that it's quite hard to go for d extra miles when high multi is in use.  smile.gif

waitin for more results from u then...  thumbup.gif
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Sorry to say,it doesn't make sense at all.
Overclocking by changing multiplier only brings least burden to your board & ram and it should be much stable method.
You can even do very good oc with chaplang mobo & ram.
In the other way, oc with increasing HTT involves your board and ram. You think things will become easier when more complicated stuffs added in? tongue.gif
In my case, it's either insufficient vcore or overheated. Will figure it out tonight.
No offense, just to point out the right fact.

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post May 7 2009, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ May 7 2009, 04:11 PM)
dblooi is right. Of all the overclocking I've done, the multiplier doesn't give stability issues or in short, it shouldn't be the determining factor for instability. In fact, it's easier to have a high multi with low FSB combination.

Btw, I read about the new Phenom hitting 4Ghz. Is it easy to achieve? smile.gif
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4GHz achievable ( check my previous post) however not stable yet,
Will try again tonight, let's see whether it's good for daily usage @ 4GHz.

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post May 7 2009, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ May 7 2009, 04:30 PM)
No worries bro ah_khoo biggrin.gif We're all learning together and next time it's your turn to teach me how to overclock a Phenom. I've lost track totally about AMD's.

dblooi, you've used both Intel and AMD so do you think the current Phenom is faster? Worth to jump camp? biggrin.gif
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Eeeee....very difficult question, especially have to answer in this thread (lol jk) laugh.gif
I think that's depend on your computing purpose & budget.
If you're dealing something demanding high memory bandwidth & high instruction per cycle,
Ci7 is a good choice if money not an issue. laugh.gif
Performance wise 940BE, 955BE are close to Q9550, Q9650.
Some AMD CPUs have high c/p ratio, eg the 720BE. Imagine you spend for RM510 but you get the performance like Q9xxx series ( If you're lucky enough)

To me, i would love to try the 955BE for its awesome hike under subzero cooling
Also i believe the quadie can do well in some 3d benchmarking ( that's why you see i posted a lot of 3d benchmark ss tongue.gif )

Bad thing to say now, Integrated Memory Controller used to be the pride of AMD but I'd noticed the memory bandwidth performance seems degrading since 90nm.
Used to have the ultimate 90nm X2 3800+ and I'm proud to say the memory performance is on par with c2d + rampage extreme + DDR3 ram. The 65nm AMD CPU really sux up big time and for this 955BE, i haven't test thoroughly though. Somehow i feel like it can't beat its predecessor. Will do some testing to figure it out.

The other thing is the RAID performance which i mentioned before. My SSD RAID 0 performing poorly with the SB750. Now i even doubt the onboard Jmicron SATA solution can outperform the SB750. If its true then it's real big shame for AMD.

This post has been edited by dblooi: May 7 2009, 05:28 PM

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