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 PFA Player of the Year : Ryan Giggs, Agree or disagree?

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Jonno
post Apr 27 2009, 04:07 PM

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This is a further prove that footballers knows nothing about football. There are at least 5 players that is a more worthy winners of the award than Giggs based on this YEAR's contribution.
Maybe I am biased, but of all the 6 nominees, I feel that if you are to choose one of the 6, then it can only be Gerrard, my reasoning, asas follow:

Ronaldo - didn't live up to even half the performance of last season, went missing too many times.

Van Der Sar - It's a joke to have him here, yes, he is holding the record for longest minutes without conceeding, but please go and watch the matches of the videos again, how many saves he has to make during those times?

Giggs - Started only 12 times this season, not enough pitch time to properly assess.

Ferdinand - while I never rate him, but he has been shaky this season, if not for Vidic, his mistakes would've probably cost Man U the title already.

Vidic - perhaps closest rival to Gerrard for the gong, as the voting is done in February, his mistakes in the Liverpool game and after that would not have mattered, was instrumental in the run of clean sheets. Having said that, perhaps didn't do enough to change the result of the game to be named player of the year.

Gerrard - We know all about him, how he has single handedly dragged Liverpool over the line in those years, and has been inspirational to those all around him, as mentioned, maybe I am biased, but to me he should win it.


If you want to know my choices of nominees, they are:

Vidic - Deserve to be at least nominated
Gerrard - As above
Lampard - hated the guy, but played very well this season
Schwartzer - Yes he played for Boro, but he single handedly kept Boro in many games behind that dodgy defence of theirs.
Alonso - Why is he not in the list is a baffling one, dictates the game well and one of the reason Liverpool is still challenging.
Barry - I know he didn't do as well as last few season, but after the fiasco of Liverpool and Arsenal, he bucked up and as inspirational to the team.

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post Apr 27 2009, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Apr 27 2009, 04:08 PM)
He is also playing for Fulham mate. Brad Jones and Ross Turnbull have been rotated between the sticks at the Riverside.
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Oops, think still warped in last season... blush.gif

QUOTE(leongtat @ Apr 27 2009, 04:17 PM)
On your post.

Ronaldo - probably the 1st half season he were poor, but 2nd half i'm sure he is starting to pick up his form...not that poor as you mention here if you were to look into the top scorer in BPL...

Van Der Sar - When i were telling reina is making few save then the rest last season i got blast from your fellow forumer.... yes VDS might be making less save but a goalkeeper is not about saves only after all is still down to how he commanded his defender...

Giggs- Probably started less time, but prove to be crucial everytime he started or even came off the bench...

Vidic - you must kidding here...you yourself  say he is instrumental for the cleansheet yet you say he did not change the result of the game...just think how many point that man utd have gain from the 1-0 scoreline...and he do have few vital goal (eg. vs sunderland) too.

Gerrard - i'm not going to argue with you about gerrard as i do agree he do have the same shout as vidic....
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Understood your sentiments and opinion, the thing is that Ronaldo, for all his talent and ability, did not influence much this season, which is probably why Man U wasn't running away with the title. Granted, he is the top scorer thus far, but goals doesn't mean that he is playing well. He sulked more often this season, and somehow lose his form.

Not going to argue with you about VDS and Reina, just that they are very different player, with different quality, but to nominate him as one of the players of the year is a joke. To be honest, I'd say Shay Given deserves it more, as he was playing behind a joke of a defence.

Giggs - enough said, he won it, whether he deserves it or not. A more appropriate award would be "Premier League lifetime achievement award"

Vidic - He didn't change the result of the game is because defenders generally got the short end of the stick and every mistake will result in goal, just like keepers. I am guilty of not rating defenders as much, while I think he played a part in the cleansheets, the oppositions also played a part. Like you, along with Gerrard, I think it should really between those two, amongst the 6 that they nominated.

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post Apr 27 2009, 05:19 PM

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This is from a Liverpool fan

AS much as I hate to say it, Ryan Giggs is one hell of a player, one of the rare breed of British who can dribble and change the game, the fact that as he aged, he uses his speed lesser and lesser, played in a more central role to make use of his game intelligence and experience to hurt to opposition, have to give him that. On top of that, he has 10 league titles and is on course for his 11th (not if we can do somehting about it), he is one of the legends of the game, having scored in EVERY of the Premier League season, the only player who has done so so far.

However, as much as a legend he is, there are more deserving winners of the award (this year), the thing is that it is a farce that the PL did not come up with a Premier league llifetime achievement award to give to him is a stupid move, that would take the sentiments away and give the award to more deserving player, Vidic, Gerrard, Lampard (whoever you choice is) and the arguement / debate would be more even.

Having said that, as mentioned, I think sentiments has a lot to do with this year's awards, which cheapens it.

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