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 Silverstone ST56F overheating, on full load, oc'ed

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post Apr 27 2009, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(blindbox @ Apr 27 2009, 10:10 AM)
How did I know it's overheat? I thought it's stated. Anyway, the main symptom is I can't start the computer after it crashes.


my mistake for that. blush.gif

blindbox, perhaps you have hit the weakness of ST56F's multi-rail (it's on dual-rail) setup.

if that's the case then nothing wrong with the PSU, just that you have to find out how to not go beyond 20A on either rails.
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post Apr 27 2009, 05:43 PM

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Yeah i have to agree with goldfries you might have overdone your rails
If you hav a friend with a better PSU borrow and run a full oc and stress test if you have the choice
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post Apr 27 2009, 05:48 PM

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Idk, I'll ask for an RMA anyway. I would've opted for Corsair VX550W if I could, but stock wasn't available.

Btw, didn't I mention it was pretty cold on an open-air setup, to answer herojack41's question? One of the components must have been not mounted properly, is my guess.

Well, on to my calculations. A rail has 240W(20A x 12v). The processor takes 95W, the graphic card takes 75W(pci-e 1.x specs). That's 170W. The board itself takes 30W. Bear in mind that all of this calculation is an overestimation. Now see, I have 40 watts extra. I doubt overclocking is going to make any effect.

Hey now, I have an idea, thanks. I might as well try those molex to 6-pins given. I still have time to test stuff out. Well, time to split the rails. I'll report again tomorrow(gimme a break, lol).


Anyone has my PSU and does overclocking to such a point? I need user experience here. It's more valuable than theories.



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post Apr 27 2009, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(blindbox @ Apr 27 2009, 05:48 PM)
Idk, I'll ask for an RMA anyway. I would've opted for Corsair VX550W if I could, but stock wasn't available.

Btw, didn't I mention it was pretty cold on an open-air setup, to answer herojack41's question? One of the components must have been not mounted properly, is my guess.

Well, on to my calculations. A rail has 240W(20A x 12v). The processor takes 95W, the graphic card takes 75W(pci-e 1.x specs). That's 170W. The board itself takes 30W. Bear in mind that all of this calculation is an overestimation. Now see, I have 40 watts extra. I doubt overclocking is going to make any effect.

Hey now, I have an idea, thanks. I might as well try those molex to 6-pins given. I still have time to test stuff out. Well, time to split the rails. I'll report again tomorrow(gimme a break, lol).
Anyone has my PSU and does overclocking to such a point? I need user experience here. It's more valuable than theories.
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well.....i does not hav any idea if u r still thinking that da silverstone psu hav problem.
although u r on super cold enviroment....u overloaded it,cooling will not help much it still generating heat.

well,u could try and send it back to warranty.

u hav hit da limit of da psu bro,u could ignore my comment.
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post Apr 27 2009, 07:18 PM

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I don't think with TS's spec it will hit the PSU's limit.
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post Apr 27 2009, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(herojack41 @ Apr 27 2009, 06:31 PM)
well.....i does not hav any idea if u r still thinking that da silverstone psu hav problem.
although u r on super cold enviroment....u overloaded it,cooling will not help much it still generating heat.

well,u could try and send it back to warranty.

u hav hit da limit of da psu bro,u could ignore my comment.
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You can try if you want but, if you make the PSU fan to stop working, the pc will shut down on load and you'll have to wait a few minutes before you can start the pc again laugh.gif . Anyway, I'll confirm the rail issue first anyway. Time to read the manual to know which wire goes to which rail.

This post has been edited by blindbox: Apr 27 2009, 08:37 PM
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post Apr 28 2009, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(blindbox @ Apr 27 2009, 05:48 PM)
Well, on to my calculations. A rail has 240W(20A x 12v). The processor takes 95W, the graphic card takes 75W(pci-e 1.x specs). That's 170W. The board itself takes 30W. Bear in mind that all of this calculation is an overestimation. Now see, I have 40 watts extra. I doubt overclocking is going to make any effect.
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Theoritically, your calculation was underestimate...
Total combined 12V rail is 40A.. so its 480W
Here's my estimation
CPU- ~95W...once overclock..,+65W or maybe more= 160W
GPU- ~180W...once overclock.. +10~20W = 200W
Mobo- 10~15W
Cooling fans- 0.5A~1.5A = 6W~18W
HD & Optical are negligible coz.. they were idle...
Total load on 12V rail with heavy OC can reach 400W++

According to the calculation... ST56F theoretically can power up your rig under load...
however, you put a lot of stress on your 12V rail and maybe reach its limit under circumstances that PSU can't deliver 40A@12V....
all i can say here is your ST56F isnt good enough/faulty or overheating (according to your theory)...
it failed to perform what it supposed to deliver....

This post has been edited by campsol2k: Apr 29 2009, 12:13 AM
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post Apr 28 2009, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Apr 27 2009, 04:22 PM)
my mistake for that.  blush.gif

blindbox, perhaps you have hit the weakness of ST56F's multi-rail (it's on dual-rail) setup.

if that's the case then nothing wrong with the PSU, just that you have to find out how to not go beyond 20A on either rails.
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juz to point out... is it normal for the PSU fan to run at constant rpm regardless of load...? hmm.gif

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post Apr 28 2009, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(blindbox @ Apr 27 2009, 10:10 AM)
@TristanX: Did you experience the same problem as mine when you once held your st56F?
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I get a lot of crashes OCing everything with this power supply using 8800GT. It's stable when I do a mild OC on just the processor.

You would imagine how much less you can OC with 4890 that requires more power than 8800GT.

 

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