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 Silverstone ST56F overheating, on full load, oc'ed

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post Apr 26 2009, 09:40 PM, updated 17y ago

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So I got this brand new rig with these specs.

Phenom II x3 720BE 2.8 GHz
MSI KA-790GX (sucky board, but nvm that)
WD 640GB
Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 4890
2x 2GB Corsair gaming ram(it costs the same as KVR that time)

I OCed my phenom II to 3.2 GHz at 1.3125 volts. I start doing full load tests, no crashes. Then I start increasing my HD 4890 volt to 1.4v and OC that as well. I start another full load test, it crashes and I had to wait a few minutes before I can start my pc back (typical psu overheating symptom). I can also crash the system by sending in 1.4 volts to my phenom II at 3.5 GHz btw(despite being stable).

Should I send this PSU back to RMA, or try an open-air system first to see whether my airflow sucks or not? Anyone has experience? I need to make a few comparisons. Sigh, I wish the fan would rev higher lol. hmm.gif icon_question.gif rclxub.gif

UPDATE: Tested the PSU open-air. Nada, system shuts down and I have to wait a minute before I can start the PC again at full load oc still. I'm not even close to the full potential of my chip arghh!

EDIT: A reminder, the psu is silverstone strider st56F

This post has been edited by blindbox: Apr 27 2009, 01:48 PM
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post Apr 26 2009, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(Bigblock @ Apr 26 2009, 09:47 PM)
If you planned on OCing why din you just opt for a better wattage PSU?
st56F should be able to withstand this.
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Exactly, it's already a better PSU. The problem isn't overload. It's overheat.
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post Apr 26 2009, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(salvatordasz @ Apr 26 2009, 09:52 PM)
if u change all setting to default , did this prob occur?
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Nope. No problems at stock. Problem comes when the PSU is pushed.

I'll post my results tomorrow, I'll do an open-air test, with fresh air for the PSU. If it still overheats, I think I'll RMA it. One to one exchange... I'll see what the shop allows, thanks for the tips.

Seems like nobody here has the same experience as mine.


EDIT: Well, one to one exchange is not possible after more than a week(it's now 8 days, sucks).

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post Apr 27 2009, 10:10 AM

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How did I know it's overheat? I thought it's stated. Anyway, the main symptom is I can't start the computer after it crashes.

Oh and, regarding PSUs, I'm pretty sure that even my PSU is overspecced for my rig.

I tried an open air system(basically I just put the PSU outside), it doesn't work either, it still crashes. That settles it I guess, I'm rmaing it this thursday(now I'm actually thankful I have exam in two weeks LOL).

Plus, do notice I was stable when I OC the CPU to 3.2 GHz only. Then the computer crashes when I start OCing the graphic card as well(crashes during the full load test).

Same thing when I OC CPU to the max, it caused crashes as well. The motherboard chipset reached 70 C at max OC, but that's not the problem, as it reaches 70 C only at max OC. When I did 3.2 GHz, it didn't reach that high.

I've singled out every single OCed component, all stable. It's just that when I simultaneously overclock all of em or did it too much in one that it crashes. I'm confident that it is 100% stable.

By crashes, I mean the computer suddenly switches off completely, and won't start until the PSU cools down. This is a typical symptom of PSU overheat. I know, as I have experience in this happening

That solves it, I don't see anyone having a problem with st56f other than me, hence a faulty unit. I'm RMAing this thursday. I'll wait for a while before I close this thread.

QUOTE(campsol2k @ Apr 27 2009, 05:30 AM)
Hmm... interesting...

I've encounter few cases regarding this PSU...
and i've to say that ST56F isn't as good as i though...
According to ST56F Specs... the PSU should be able to supply power continuously 560W@40C...
Typical operating temp of any PSU is around 40~50C...
What i can say here is that... TS's PSU rating is degrading because of temperature factor....
If ST56F cooling fan is unable to maintain the 40C temp the PSU capacity should less than 560W...

TS case --> higher load...more heat... increase in temperature... "cooling isnt adequate"--> PSU capacity degradation... PSU hits its limit... ---> overload ---> automatic system shutdown (protection mechanism)

I'm not going to say here that ST56F isnt sufficient for TS rig...because it is enough...
According to ST56F GPU Support list it supports 9800GTX and 4850 CF....
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They're meant to operate at 50 C. When I touch it in open air, it's pretty cool. So I bet one of the components aren't properly attached to the heatsink or something. I'm not going to risk my warranty especially when I don't know much about PSUs.


If you guys want to know, my symptoms are DEFINITELY not one of an overload. It's an overheat.


Plus, my PSU is doing 9.52V on +12V according to everest. I haven't checked it using a multimeter though(trying to find one in my house.. I'm pretty sure it's somewhere...)


@TristanX: Did you experience the same problem as mine when you once held your st56F?

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post Apr 27 2009, 01:46 PM

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Yes the fan works... lol you had to ask? The fan does move slow, though it's meant to be that slow.
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post Apr 27 2009, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Apr 27 2009, 02:38 PM)
when you re-power up the power supply, the mobo auto start or you have to push ON button?
this question related to PSU or mobo faulty brows.gif
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Obviously it doesn't sweat.gif . It shuts off and I have to wait a few minutes to start it again.
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post Apr 27 2009, 05:48 PM

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Idk, I'll ask for an RMA anyway. I would've opted for Corsair VX550W if I could, but stock wasn't available.

Btw, didn't I mention it was pretty cold on an open-air setup, to answer herojack41's question? One of the components must have been not mounted properly, is my guess.

Well, on to my calculations. A rail has 240W(20A x 12v). The processor takes 95W, the graphic card takes 75W(pci-e 1.x specs). That's 170W. The board itself takes 30W. Bear in mind that all of this calculation is an overestimation. Now see, I have 40 watts extra. I doubt overclocking is going to make any effect.

Hey now, I have an idea, thanks. I might as well try those molex to 6-pins given. I still have time to test stuff out. Well, time to split the rails. I'll report again tomorrow(gimme a break, lol).


Anyone has my PSU and does overclocking to such a point? I need user experience here. It's more valuable than theories.



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post Apr 27 2009, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(herojack41 @ Apr 27 2009, 06:31 PM)
well.....i does not hav any idea if u r still thinking that da silverstone psu hav problem.
although u r on super cold enviroment....u overloaded it,cooling will not help much it still generating heat.

well,u could try and send it back to warranty.

u hav hit da limit of da psu bro,u could ignore my comment.
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You can try if you want but, if you make the PSU fan to stop working, the pc will shut down on load and you'll have to wait a few minutes before you can start the pc again laugh.gif . Anyway, I'll confirm the rail issue first anyway. Time to read the manual to know which wire goes to which rail.

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