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 Compaq Presario CQ40 AMD Series V2, Turion X2 2.2Ghz, HD 3450 512MB, RM2k!!!

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post May 10 2009, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(shady @ May 10 2009, 01:38 AM)
Thanks for the update  thumbup.gif

Looks like I want to try Win 7 again.

Btw, I noticed now the core clock for the HD 3450 is down to 300mhz from 500mhz. I suspect HP lower down the clock speed through the latest BIOS to prevent overheating and prolong battery life. Can anyone check the core clock for HD 3450? Im very sure the speed was 500mhz when I got it first time.
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Maybe its just my machine. I believe that it has always been 300mhz, anyone with the lower bios version that F42 can try gpuz or AtiTrayTools and see that the core clock speed is not 500. But others like everest and the catalyst information tab show 500mhz. There're a few users having the same issue posted a screenshot of the clock speeds on the old thread.

I updated to version F42, and now it shows 300mhz on all gpu monitoring utility/catalyst, but i didnt notice any speed drops at all. If anything it got just a tad bit faster when i benchmark my games since the bios updates the amd agesa code to improve stability and compatibility.

Anybody dare to downgrade to the lowest version F.03 and see if got improvement anot? whistling.gif

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post May 10 2009, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(shady @ May 10 2009, 04:47 PM)
Im very sure with previous bios, my clock speed is 500. Even Catalyst Control Center shows 500mhz. Now with Cat 9.4 for Win 7, my core clock is only 300mhz in CCC. Im not sure its driver or BIOS which lower down the clock speed. Anyway I dont play much game with my laptop so it doesnt really matter but 200mhz reduction in core speed is huge performance drop since its already a slow chip.
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i said that catalyst also dont show it correctly, use atitraytools then u'll see what i mean. gpuz works too.
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post May 27 2009, 01:29 AM

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QUOTE(developer @ May 24 2009, 11:17 PM)
here i have attached the screenshot of my laptop running on f03 bios. i have just downgraded the bios from f45 to f03 safely, nothing happened for my downgrade but i dont suggest you to do so.
shady, here is the answer you wanted all along haha. and btw, can you post up your screenshot just like mine showing the gpu and bios version? hope you will pin this up.
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do u mind posting a gpu-z screenie of the clock speed? my catalyst show that its 500mhz, but only 300mhz on gpu-z. after f42, all show that its 300mhz.
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post May 28 2009, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(Zibel @ May 27 2009, 01:00 PM)
I posted this a while back but nobody said if it worked or not, maybe you can be the first to try smile.gif
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unsure.gif Nah....didn't work...tried it couple of times. Tried holding the power button as i put in the adapter too...
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post Jun 5 2009, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(tictac @ Jun 3 2009, 06:13 PM)
i use k10stat tool to play with my VCore and multiplier  notworthy.gif

Finish tuning my max clock Vcore. i downvolt it to 1.01V... now full load temp down to 94C from 100C++ (Stock setting)
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Bro, can teach how to undervolt?

i got prime95, k10stat and a tool to monitor heat etc etc.

After i set the voltage, how do i use prime95 to stress-test it? What settings to use?

and also, how to stress-test at the the lower processor speeds? the 550mhz and 1100mhz one.

thanks.
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post Jun 6 2009, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(tictac @ Jun 5 2009, 06:45 PM)
open prime95 then click for torture test. then chooser small fft option. then it will torture you processor till it scream sweat.gif

if you wana test 1100mhz and 550mhz just change 2.2GHz state and 1.1ghz state to 550mhz speed by changing the did to 2 smile.gif

FID 14 DID 0 = 2.2GHz
FID 14 DID 1 = 1.1GHz
FID 14 DID 2 = 550MHZ

good luck biggrin.gif
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I see biggrin.gif Thanks sifu
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post Jun 14 2009, 01:00 AM

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QUOTE(rajatetra @ Jun 13 2009, 11:07 PM)
1st, i already bought my lappy cq40-401au biggrin.gif

so, actually it 2.2Ghz but this speed only happen when i play a game or loading heavy software

in idle, the speed just 550mhz. (just like in picture..)  sad.gif

user posted image

so, why this happen..it is sumthin with bios setting?  hmm.gif
2nd, when i buying this laptop, i extended the warranty for 3 year..but this shop also offer me free upgrade to 2GB ram. so, when they upgrade the memory.. they removed the previos 1 stick 1 GB ddr2 and installed 1 stick 2GB ddr2

so, what happen to my warrranty..void or not? bcoz i read in this forum, if we want claim for warranty, have to bring RAM that before upgrading..it is true? but i dont have it sad.gif
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dude doh.gif the processor will downclock is a GOOD thing. sweat.gif Its to lower power consumption, heat. the processor will vary its clockspeed according to load, normal stuff.

as for the ram, i really doubt it. never heard of such shit before, my friend brought for warranty, change hd, ram, no problem.
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post Jun 14 2009, 01:18 AM

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QUOTE(lln2 @ Jun 14 2009, 01:02 AM)
excuse me, i bought cq40-401ax recently from lowyat
I would like to ask that can the ATI RADEON hd3450 be upgraded to 768mb?
(initially memory capacity is 512mb izit?)

It is because when i bought the laptop, the salesman told me that although graphic card is still the ATI RADEON hd3450, but it is improved. Eventually i felt something wrong after went back.

I bought the laptop for rm2500:
amd turion duo core 2.2ghz
3gb ram 800mhz
250 gb sata disk
3 years of warranty(extended)
and so called improved ati radeon hd3450 graphic cards
other: gifts including one epson t-10 printer and kingsoft anti-virus
Is that possible that i get tricked?
thanks to anyone who can answer my question...
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get tricked? kinda.

the older models gc have just 256mb, the 401ax series has an upgraded 512mb. prolly thats what he meant by 'improved'.

rm2500? tricked? like i said, kinda. paying like rm250(or more) extra for a printer u dont need and anti-virus u can get another alternate for free.

should be just around 2.1-2.25k. 1950(laptop)+199(warranty)+70(ram) = 2219.
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post Jun 21 2009, 12:35 AM

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QUOTE(garygothic @ Jun 20 2009, 12:36 PM)
New bios version F.49 is out. click HERE to download.
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future windows but not windows xp sweat.gif

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post Jun 21 2009, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(hsienhsien @ Jun 21 2009, 02:47 PM)
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maybe can show a screenshot of the error or something?
its very difficult to know what the problem is, it can be either hardware or software. perhaps it can even be a virus or a trojan?
since u say windows shutting your games down, ur best bet i to leave a screenshot of it here, maybe some OS related problem. maybe someone can help.

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post Jun 21 2009, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(shyley @ Jun 21 2009, 06:09 PM)
my friend use comapq cq40 AMD+ATI also...

He tell me he use this laptop open 5hours to see movie.He put the laptop at his bed to watch....dun have cooler...

After 5hours he try to pegang the laptop..he tell me dia punya tangan cepat2 tarik because too hot....
He tell me he cepat2 close the laptop..
Then he tell me his laptop down there melt a bit...

So scary
My friend is my classmate that sit beside me
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obviously....i think any laptop also will be the same. putting on your bed will only prevent the air from coming out, not to mention the heat buildup of the fabric will only make it worse. tell ur friend to put something flat and solid beneath the laptop.
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post Jun 29 2009, 08:00 PM

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There's no real heat issue if u can 'tahan' the heat. before i undervolt the heat can go up to 110 deg celsius. so....yeah, if u dun mind frying your left hand....there's no real problem lol. amd+ati are known to be quite tahan the heat.
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post Jul 6 2009, 01:20 AM

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something wrong with my opengl
suddenly lost opengl compliance, now version 1.1 oni shakehead.gif

im pretty sure the hd3450 supports up to opengl 2.0

games that i used to play suddenly cannot play di sniff*

can someone check their opengl extension version please? if its 2.0, what bios version u using? and what gpu driver u using?
thanks cry.gif

EDIT: sorry, i confirm its the stupid driver problem. dang 3rd party driver i use from tweakforce.com make my opengl disabled mad.gif

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post Jul 6 2009, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(vileclaw @ Jul 6 2009, 04:42 PM)
what is the best graphic setting for crysis warhead on 401AX?
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low lol? i've tried, best u could get was 1024x768 on low. u can higher and stuff, but shaders....nono.

and to the guy right above, not much difference, if anything it could be faster than the hd3450 since the speeds is capped at 300mhz for the newer bios, but not for the hd3200. not to mention its integrated into the chipset, it should perform better relatively speaking.

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post Jul 14 2009, 02:28 AM

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to those that want to undervolt, i suggest user IntelBurnTest http://downloads.guru3d.com/IntelBurnTest-...nload-2047.html , easier to use.

i also suggest u also test with a demanding game. i stress test prime95 for 3 hours, no problem, but when i game, BSOD in 5 minutes, had to raise the voltage alittle before everything was stable.
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post Jul 14 2009, 07:23 PM

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QUOTE(gto87 @ Jul 14 2009, 04:07 PM)
Guys.. Just tested my friend's Cooler Master Infinite. The temp were reduced by 7c on load.

So, I'm asking to all CQ40 sifus here, Is there any other Notebook cooler that can perform better than Infinite? Have you guys tried any other notebook cooler?

Thanks~

EDIT: I lowered my laptop voltage to 1.0375v and stress it with prime95. The temp is insanely high as it goes nearly 90c within the first 5 minutes.  rclxub.gif

So I stopped the test after 5 minutes. Is it normal to have such temp?
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Yes, normal. Actually normal temp for gaming would be 90-100C.

Here are some of what it says on IntelBurnTest readme:

CODE
A program that simplifies the usage of Intel(R) Linpack. Linpack by
Intel(R) is an extremely stressful program that will put even the most pow-
-erful X86/X64 CPU in the world at its knees. Load temp under Linpack will
be up to 22*C higher than the competing software Prime95. This program will
make usage of Linpack easier and more practical.

Benefits of using Linpack:
1. More accurate than Prime95 Small FFTs/Blend (under x64 OS).
2. Takes less time to tell if your CPU/RAM is unstable than Prime95 (usually
  something like 8 minutes Linpack vs 40 hours under Prime95).
3. Use the same stress-testing engine that Intel uses to test their products
  before they are packed and put on shelves for sale.

Benefits of using IntelBurnTest:
1. Simplifies usage of Linpack.
2. Real-time output of results to the screen.
3. Simplifies the process of selecting a test size to use.
4. Better appearance.
5. Intuitive interface.
6. Real-time error checking.
7. System status acknowledgement.


Still, i recommend u test with a demanding game also.

My K10STAT: 1.0250 0.8000 0.7500
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post Jul 17 2009, 01:12 AM

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QUOTE(fcuk90 @ Jul 17 2009, 12:56 AM)
yeah you cant restart or it will stuck at the bar there .common problem .  smile.gif


Added on July 17, 2009, 12:57 am
very hard to change processor for laptop although it is possible

try overclock it . i can reach 3ghz .it is fast on multitasking
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oc really? blink.gif wont it overheat kao kao with the heat now being crazy di? what temps u getting?
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post Jul 20 2009, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(karhoe @ Jul 20 2009, 08:01 PM)
Seems like this laptop has found it's competitor, the Asus KB series, both are quite similar, CQ40 wins in certain areas

Better processor, with 3 phase power, bluetooth enabled

but lose to Asus KB with..

Better graphics (Hybrid crossfire X with HD3200 onboard graphics)
HD ready screen (1366 x 768)
Keyboard with numpad..
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bro, where to buy this laptop? i check the pricelists but dont see this model, czone selling the kb40 with geforce g 102m wan lah, but that wan fail miserably even in comparison with our hd3450.

btw, i thought the model ur talking about comes with hd4570? and whats the proc speed?
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post Aug 8 2009, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(killerloop81 @ Aug 5 2009, 04:53 PM)
tis laptop can play street fighter 4?
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can, i on 1280x800 on med-high no problem. just set the fps to fixed, i think its somekind of frameskipper. not fluid lah, but 100% playable with eye candy also.
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post Sep 19 2009, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(deentk_1987 @ Sep 16 2009, 05:20 PM)
is anybody already tried overclocking over ati radeon hd3200 on 502au?

i never played overclocking over my laptop, so wish i could try...... would it give a negative
effect to my 502au? can you teach me how to do it?

i have my ati catalyst driver (not remember version) + amd overdrive on my 502au so hope someone can tell me how
to perform overclocking.....
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as far as i know, its impossible to oc the gpu on the lappy. on my 133AX, ive tried every gpu ocing software there is out there, rivatuner doesnt even read it. AtiTrayTools and AtiTools don't work(the slider will return to normal after u refresh the page) and Amd Overdrive which seems like the only one that i thought was working, when i run gpu-z or everest the clock rates didnt change one bit.

hope u know that, if u find a way to oc tell me yah, cheers.

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