i got a 2x24W T5HO if you want for 2ft. Brand: Glo. Bought at EA MidValley few months ago but didnt use anymore since i've changed to PLL (the one I sold here last month) I can take a pic if u are interested. PM me for further details. Still 100% working and it comes with the box and everything as I got from shop.

hehehe...if you interested la anyway.

hmm, usually a brown moss are already melted/dead. but they normally wont melted straight from tip to root in a night. it takes some time for them to melt the whole plant (unless you take it out form water of course). as long still have greens, they can recover back im sure.

you can cut out the browned moss (melted leafs) until you see the green ones. usually the root area melted later after the tip in my case. then let the moss grow back.

anyway, i found out moss is very hard to kill no matter what moss in my keep. the only time my moss dead are when they're inside my goldfish tank (obviously), or when they're out of water and didnt get moisted enuf (during tying up...bleh~!) or when excel being overdosed in the tank. the rest of the time, they just wont melts.

yes, like yu jin said, sprinkle water on it from time to time when you;re tying moss. that's what i did most of the time whenever i tying, seperating before planting, etc...

i did that for all plants evne glosso, HC, HG...everything just take water spray bottle and keep spraying them. dont let them dried out.

anyone have Rotala rotundifolia 'green' for sale? huhuhu~!!!...

ok cool bro. erm.. i will let u know when confirm the date im going back JB. estimated is at around 21st June. anyway bro... my bad, i dunno where did i put the box for the light set...tried to search but cannot find liao. i hope u dun mind without box .

i wanna see yujin's crs tank huhuhu~!!

erm...tenchi, some of us cannot read chinese leh... which is the plant in that tank? and your thermometer looks awkward when positioned like that. LOL~!!... nothing wrong with it... just ..kinda... ah... nvm...

yujin bro, the shrimp food ah, does it attract fish to eat also? hmm..just asking because pity my shrimps in my community tank, whenever i put a shrimp food, my fishes grab it right after the food touches the water and the shrimp dont even have a chance to smell it . i dont want to waste that much of money for shrimp food only for my fish to grab eat before my shrimps. hehehe... and my shrimp sux, they slow.

and where the heck i can find tat shrimp food? anyone knows anywhere to find those around KL/Selangor?
p/s: yujin, yesterday i went to damansara (when i COD the rotala from pang) and try to look for mr. lim's outlet... and i failed ... hahahah~!!! maybe i should use a GPS after this.

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Added on June 8, 2009, 11:07 amEDIT: okay...just now only read in MAC that the chinese name plant is rotala red. hehehe...

This post has been edited by usermode: Jun 8 2009, 11:07 AM

hmm... so that is how a shrimp tank looks like huh. saw drew's and now urs. and i got a feeling that i dont think i'm gonna have any tank like that in my house because my wife will shoot me due to ugly tank like sump tank in the house (lol..no offense okay...it;s from my wife perspective when i showed her). she prefer the looks of the tank first and then only what fauna will be inside. hmm... i need to start thinking on layout for low-tech jungle scape and no lights.

hehehe...end of this month i'll be officially starting a shrimp tank. gonna buy RCS from Eddie in JB (starting serious with RCS first...still scared with CRS) and will have my first shrimp-breeding tank. huhuhu...wish me luck. the tank will be setted up within this week and will let it cycle while waiting for the shrimp arrival end of this month w00t~!! then if success with RCS, only i'll think of CRS. oh ya...dun forget about the greenies that will share the same tank with the RCS

then later dump CRS in that tank also and let it crossbreed. i wanna see how the babies gonna looks like. can it comeout green-"hulk"-looking CRS? LOL~!!!!.... FTW!!

oh ya yu jin, yes i admit...it's one of my problem and weakness in my own self....

"i sux with roads...."

hahaha i always have problem with roads.

in the tank will have RCS + Green Shrimps (i know these 2 is not a same type and wont cross breed). But once CRS dumped there, Green Shrimps and CRS is in the same type am I rite? Or maybe I misread perhaps....

But cool also if they cant crossbreed so they can live with each other peacefully and mind their own business. it doesnt really matter to me anyway, I just want to see them alive living in the tank. I dont want to kill shrimps as they're too expensive and too small to be cooked if they die. Better they stay alive in the tank for my eyes pleasure.

hm... im curious, what's the problem if they crossbreed? like green and crs if mixed together in same tank... ya i know some people want to get higher and higher grade crs from breeding but heck, is there anything wrong if i just wanna have fun in the hobby by letting them crossbreed purposely by putting them in the same tank?

or is there any side effects that they shouldnt be in the same tank together? like perhaps...Malayan will eat White Bee if they're together, or SnowBall will GB on Blue Pearl until dead? erm..u got what i mean. negative stuff things beside crossbreeding issue?

MH power consumption i dunno much but if im not mistaken, MH light penetration is a lot better than PLL. but i might be wrong as I also dun really have MH myself.

for me, it's not worth yet to have MH for the moment when i can use PLL without any problem. another thing i've learned in this hobby too... "if nothing is broken, dont fix it" (as usual, learnt the hard way). hahahah~!!!!

LOL~!.. too bad, i didnt get the plants at all when azmi told me he already got buyer for all of em. only if the buyer back out he'll sell to me.

anyway, i wouldnt worry much for riccia now as i have constant riccia supply. just... trying my luck with azmi to try a riccia from a new source.

This post has been edited by usermode: Jun 15 2009, 07:02 PM

@catacombs
scoop the top layer out but u need to be rajin lor... or,... get a surface skimmer it;s not that expensive anyway.

@adrian

riccia, u can plant it on whatever you like as you want. normally people will tie it to small rocks or wood plate or something so can easily plug-n-play. me, i tied it on wiremesh and treat as foreground carpet.

no matter what you do, you want to tie them properly. they are not like moss that will attach themselves in time. they dun have roots. if too much gaps in the tying, later they tend to floats back. also, trim them frequently. i trim my riccia when they reach about an inch thick and trim them into half inch back. if they grew too thick, the bottom part might melt and leaving the untied part floats back into your water column and you'll have more work to do instead.

take a good care of your riccia and they'll be a lovely plant. else, you'll might hate it (many aquarist i knew hates em' but on the other hands, if they really sux, why amano loves them so much? think about it). one thing i know, riccia is not for people who lazy to do maintenance. hahahah~!!!

@shortpants,
there's a many of shops that have more plants. just let us know where's ur location and some of us might give you some leads.

@setoyo
as Drew said, open top is more kinda trend. well, i dont know if it's a trend. i do open top because easier to put all the eqs. lightings, filter inpu/output, all those hoses... everything.

air ventilation also is another issue for hooded tank. but heck, if you got a chiller or the tank located in an aircond room, then nothing to worry about the temp.

and yeah, all tank needs filter but not all tank MUST have a filter. On special case, you dont have a filter but not because you dont want to, because you cant (i have a tank without a filter now...hahaha~! so im talking about my tank but it;s different case already).

So on the other words, get a filter if you have a tank. they are IMPORTANT in many aspects.

bro, how long is that tank already when they died and how long is the tank age when u put them inside? if it's new, did it cycled?

generally from your explaination, what the most I can see the problem is your tank is not cycled yet and you already dumped a lot of faunas in there. dont worry, it happens lot of times to a newcomer aquarist. patience is the key. cycle your tank first before putting display fish. you may want to google on how to cycle a tank as it'll be quite an explaination to post up here in details.

for me personally, i use plants to see if my tank is ready to put display fish in it. let the plants properly roots first else some fishes/shrimps might pull them out back. by the time my plants properly rooted, then the tank i can say already cycled (usually takes about 3 weeks to a month). ottos and snails will be inserted in the 2nd week. SAE will be in the 3rd week. and then on 4th or 5th only yamato shrimp will be added (because they have the abillity to root up foreground plants when it's still not properly rooted). then a week after that only i might consider putting in my display fish.

ya, i know...i take too long to some people. but hey, at least i know none of my fish died once they're inside my tank. human patience can save lives of the innocents fishes (even tho i care more of my plants than my fishes ).

but all the above is just my way of doing things. some people that pro enuf knows how to speed up the cycling process. i do follow those way (matured filter media, mulm in the base, bacter balls, etc). but i prefer to be on the safe side

finally, a words of wisdom from the professionals and seniors that you can find all over the net and it;s very useful...
"take care of the water, and the water will take care of your fishes and plants"

p/s: im still a newbie also. lot to learn still for me too.... we all just learnin together and share our experience with each other. that's what hobbyist do rite? good luck bro with your tank.

whoaaa~!! never thought you gonna even use ADA nettings ans special squarish stones~!! you seriously dont need anymore help to be poisoned. hahahaha~!!!

This post has been edited by usermode: Jun 18 2009, 06:33 PM

some teaser from my current under development newbie 2ft tank scape. i dunno what kind of scape is this. just playing around with the tank actually.









sorry for the equipments in the pic. hehehe..lazy to remove those stuff for photograph. the tank is actually not fully done yet. will need to wait for about 3-4 weeks more for the rotalas to be shaped to create more depth. the UG also still left around 10% to cover the ground and so do the HC sien waiting for it to cover fully 100%. will post up the final photos later when it's ready.

This post has been edited by usermode: Jun 21 2009, 04:42 PM

just lucky those plants wont disappoint me when they're in the tank...i still failed when planting blyxa japonica . not all plants i can grow anyway.

LOL....thanks but hey... trust me, u just havent see a better one from our members here... they just keep their tank for themselves only. wait until after IAPLC result out on july and you;ll see them posting their tank and by that time, you'll notice that my tank is just a stupid tank only.



thanks also. the riccia is non stop pearling. i dun really care if it's pearling actually and i usually ignore them. but the other plants pearling is thing that i like.. just u cant see in the pic