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Hi mate. QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Apr 21 2009, 03:24 PM)
Well, what to do. Many kids in the forums. Single's Club V170, No more 69 wor.... =(
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QUOTE(Maxd38 @ Apr 21 2009, 03:44 PM) The high tax thing really a pissed off... Kampung's solutionThe government won't subsidise petrol anymore, but the tax thing remain high.. damn.. Less tax on cars No subsidy for fuel QUOTE(MauveMarionette @ Apr 21 2009, 03:45 PM) Hi Chicks! >w< Haha, have you eaten?Seems like the spam rate is super slow again... *wonders if she could steal some ice to eat* |
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Proton will file for bankruptcy..
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QUOTE(Maxd38 @ Apr 21 2009, 03:44 PM) The high tax thing really a pissed off... But our petrol IS subsidised, is it not? Just that the percentage did not follow suit to rise the same time global oil price rose. It just went down again recently anyway.The government won't subsidise petrol anymore, but the tax thing remain high.. damn.. And plue the high tax on foreign cars is so that Malaysian would support Malaysian products. How else are we going to make our economy move if we do more Importing than Export. That would totally tip off the balance. If you have the money for foreign cars then you have the money for maintenance. It's reasonable. QUOTE(Gouki @ Apr 21 2009, 03:47 PM) Gouki~~~ QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Apr 21 2009, 03:51 PM) I had breakfast. I'm trying to stop eating ice...CheeChee will be angry and Hawkie's been telling me that it makes one fat. = = |
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QUOTE(MauveMarionette @ Apr 21 2009, 03:57 PM) But our petrol IS subsidised, is it not? Just that the percentage did not follow suit to rise the same time global oil price rose. It just went down again recently anyway. And plue the high tax on foreign cars is so that Malaysian would support Malaysian products. How else are we going to make our economy move if we do more Importing than Export. That would totally tip off the balance. If you have the money for foreign cars then you have the money for maintenance. It's reasonable. Gouki~~~ I had breakfast. I'm trying to stop eating ice... CheeChee will be angry and Hawkie's been telling me that it makes one fat. = = |
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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Apr 21 2009, 03:36 PM) A good example of civilised discussion It's because both Proton and Perodua exist due to political reasons.And the people are being forced to buy those mediocre crap and imported cars cost a few more times in oversea,or not imported in at all (Like Fiat Panda which is suppose to be dirt cheap),as it will cause competition with our shit car makers.www.carspyshots.net Here, in Mareshia, whenever there is topic about Proton/Perodua... People talk more about car tax or politic, more than just the car itself I do know the frustration of high tax on foreign cars, but at the same time, why not post something relevant to that car discssion rather than discussing something OT? Added on April 21, 2009, 3:38 pm Ish, more than just MPV I am now talking about the propensity of people going offtopic in discussions Criticisms or praises, are welcomed, so long it is part of discussion and relevant to the thread itself Besides,even after donkey years of making cars,both Proton and Perodua havent even improved much at all,technologically.Serious design flaws like Gen 2 back view windshield or QA problems are still present.Honda,Toyota,BMW etc are making hybrids,hydrogen fuel cells or electric cars,while Proton doesnt even have a diesel engine.Campro is not even good at all,from what i heard.Low torque.Crap gearbox that broke down easily.Then,how about Lexus,which only existed for about 10 years.They are making good and powerful cars now.It's true that they have aid from Toyota,but there isnt much difference from Mitsubishi giving aid to Proton back in the 90s.Some thing is wrong with the people who are running Proton and Perodua. One fact you should know,for some unknown reasons,people just hate their own national cars. Majority of Americans hates GM.Most Germans hate their own BMW.Australians dislike their own Holden.Hell,even Jeremy Clarkson hates most British cars.Thats what i got from someone who have been traveled around quite a fair amount around a world. At least those people get to have a chance to choose their own cars,rather than being forced to buy their own national car,like us. Malaysian car industry isnt much different than our own entertainment industry.Only one word to describe them,shame. Except the bit about Codemaster's Racing Studio in Cyberjaya and a few extremely talented singers and actors actually make me proud. This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Apr 21 2009, 04:03 PM |
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Apr 21 2009, 04:00 PM) It's because both Proton and Perodua exist due to political reasons.And the people are being forced to buy those mediocre crap and imported cars cost a few more times in oversea,or not imported in at all (Like Fiat Panda which is suppose to be dirt cheap),as it will cause competition with our shit car makers. Naise volcanic explosionBesides,even after donkey years of making cars,both Proton and Perodua havent even improved much at all,technologically.Serious design flaws like Gen 2 back view windshield or QA problems are still present.Honda,Toyota,BMW etc are making hybrids,hydrogen fuel cells or electric cars,while Proton doesnt even have a diesel engine.Campro is not even good at all,from what i heard.Low torque.Crap gearbox that broke down easily.Then,how about Lexus,which only existed for about 10 years.They are making good and powerful cars now.It's true that they have aid from Toyota,but there isnt much difference from Mitsubishi giving aid to Proton back in the 90s. One fact you should know,for some unknown reasons,people just hate their own national cars. Majority of Americans hates GM.Most Germans hate their own BMW.Australians dislike their own Holden.Hell,even Jeremy Clarkson hates most British cars.Thats what i got from someone who have been traveled around quite a fair amount around a world. At least those people get to have a chance to choose their own cars,rather than being forced to buy their own national car,like us. Malaysian car industry isnt much different than our own entertainment industry.Only one word to describe them,shame. Except the bit about Codemaster's Racing Studio in Cyberjaya and a few extremely talented singers and actors actually make me proud. I is enjoice |
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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Apr 21 2009, 03:36 PM) Ish, more than just MPV Alright,whats so special about that MPV?I am now talking about the propensity of people going offtopic in discussions Criticisms or praises, are welcomed, so long it is part of discussion and relevant to the thread itself People are pissed here,as we are all forced to buy local cars. QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Apr 21 2009, 03:51 PM) Not gonna happen.Proton and Perodua will bankrupt instantly. QUOTE(MauveMarionette @ Apr 21 2009, 03:57 PM) But our petrol IS subsidised, is it not? Just that the percentage did not follow suit to rise the same time global oil price rose. It just went down again recently anyway. We arent even export much in the first place.And plue the high tax on foreign cars is so that Malaysian would support Malaysian products. How else are we going to make our economy move if we do more Importing than Export. That would totally tip off the balance. If you have the money for foreign cars then you have the money for maintenance. It's reasonable. Gouki~~~ I had breakfast. I'm trying to stop eating ice... CheeChee will be angry and Hawkie's been telling me that it makes one fat. = = The high tax just pretty much force us to buy Malaysian cars.I dont mind,if they actually improve. |
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QUOTE(MauveMarionette @ Apr 21 2009, 03:57 PM) But our petrol IS subsidised, is it not? Just that the percentage did not follow suit to rise the same time global oil price rose. It just went down again recently anyway. Currently, the petrol's price is so low that the government don't even need to subsidy... And plue the high tax on foreign cars is so that Malaysian would support Malaysian products. How else are we going to make our economy move if we do more Importing than Export. That would totally tip off the balance. If you have the money for foreign cars then you have the money for maintenance. It's reasonable. Well, Proton does have export businesses.. eg: China, Thailand, Europe... Being over protective kills the quality... Deng, i'm not good with words.... |
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Apr 21 2009, 04:07 PM) We arent even export much in the first place. Malaysia's technology and financial is not sufficient enough to be the main car exporter, for goodness sake even with the advance technology from other countries, we're not improving.The high tax just pretty much force us to buy Malaysian cars.I dont mind,if they actually improve. So all I'm arguing on is the purpose of economy. For the car quality itself, I don't want to meddle. QUOTE(-br0k3n- @ Apr 21 2009, 04:07 PM) QUOTE(thken @ Apr 21 2009, 04:07 PM) Hi tken. |
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QUOTE(MauveMarionette @ Apr 21 2009, 04:12 PM) Malaysia's technology and financial is not sufficient enough to be the main car exporter, for goodness sake even with the advance technology from other countries, we're not improving. cheh... u better remember mine also So all I'm arguing on is the purpose of economy. For the car quality itself, I don't want to meddle. Hi tken. |
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