hi marion

Will not happen, since GLC = bailout


Lexus is effectively a Toyota subsidiary (full), different than the framework of a J-V between Perodua with Daihatsu and also, Mitsubishi with Proton...

The reason for Toyota, Honda and Nissan to setup luxury marques for US, is because luxury car market = high margin and as the cost of production goes up, it makes sense to compete in higher end market, economically speaking...

One thing is, i would like to see parity between Mareshian car and foreign car exists, in that way, competition is a fair game to determine who should exist...

For now, i can be very sure that even without Proton, Perodua, Naza and Inokom......the tax will remains, because it is one of highest grossing tax for the government...

If Proton dead in 1980's, maybe we can hope for low tax environment, but for now, realistically, it won't happen

About diesel engine, there are many factors why Perodua and Proton did not offer one...

Firstly, diesel quality in Malaysia is terrible even compared to Thailand, it is higher in sulphur content, and that is not suitable for modern diesel engines

Second, until recently, Malaysian road tax structure is not favourable for diesel cars, until recent realignment of diesel roadtax with petrol roadtax, even with Green Engine status (introduced in 1990's), the roadtax for diesel in west Malaysia (contributed bulk of car sales in Malaysia), is about twice of the equivalent sized petrol engine car road tax...only in Sabah and Sarawak, diesel cars are common

Third, naturally speaking, lack of demand means it is not viable in economics of scale

Proton did have one diesel model in 1990's, the Wira diesel, unfortunately, it is not refined and clunky, as a result it is a big sales flop...

If you want to see diesel cars prevalent in Mareshia, the first thing that the government should do is to increase diesel quality...

Of course, the only onus of that is higher refining cost, that means higher pump price for low sulphur diesel..

Still, i advocate diesel cars than petrols...

It is simply better than petrol

This post has been edited by Kampung2005: Apr 21 2009, 04:18 PM

People want a change. BN is going down in the next election...

Alright, Marion gotta go for a bit. Be back later tonight.

Happy spammin' everyone~

*hugs for CheeChee, AbgKen, Tiggy and Maxie~~

R.A.H.M.A.N. is ended

bye

Alright, let's continue debate the tax thingy when u back...
I found it helps me improve my English..

It's more like the mentality,than financial,IMO.Our money is always been putting on the wrong place/pocket.

We could be main car exporter,if we dont have Proton.Various car companies wants to set up plants in South East Asia,as Malaysia is politically stable and abundance of labour.Instead,they go Thailand or else where.

They are down in peninsular

But not in Sabah and Sarawak

Sabah and Sarawak voting patterns are different than people of peninsular, remember

N = Current one ?
So is going to an end d...

i think malaysia disagree them to set up factory in malaysia to protect proton

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Added on April 21, 2009, 4:21 pmafter N still got meh?

This post has been edited by thken: Apr 21 2009, 04:21 PM

true...

i wonder the next will be A.B.A.D.I
so, anwar take over? O_O

I think Corruption is 1 of the reason?

Protectionist policy keeps them away

If there is no protectionist policies, automatically, the automotive sector in Malaysia will be just like EnE sector in Malaysia

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Added on April 21, 2009, 4:23 pmNope, more like protectionist policies...

Remember, Malaysia did delayed AFTA implementation for automobiles from 2003 to 2005

This post has been edited by Kampung2005: Apr 21 2009, 04:23 PM

I think S n S voted BN bcoz they promise to develop the states?

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Added on April 21, 2009, 4:26 pmI'm not sure, i thought going to repeat..
like R after N...

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Added on April 21, 2009, 4:26 pmI wonder that day will ever come...

This post has been edited by Maxd38: Apr 21 2009, 04:26 PM

Well, the flow of information in SnS is less than peninsular...

Also, most of the voters are rural voters, they care more for local issues than national issues...

Thus, when the village being provided with electricity and water, then you can guess what happened...

Oh I see, and the 30% thingy is sh!t...

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Added on April 21, 2009, 4:28 pmHahaha, u smart ler...

This post has been edited by Maxd38: Apr 21 2009, 04:28 PM

Still, i am proud to be Sabahan

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Since when we are using our own oil? As far as i know,our high quality oil is exported out to other countries and we buy back crude petrol for our own vehicles.Someone wants to earn lots of money here.

The tax issue will never go away,just that it wont be this high like a few hundred percent which is ridiculous.

Diesel roadtax was expensive,but if you tend to travel a lot.You still save in a long run.Diesel engine do have a lot of problem back in the 90s,as it's noisy,shaky steering and lower performance.It's no longer the case now.

There will never be an even competitions between our shit cars and oversea's cars,with this current government.Nothing will ever improve if there is no fair competition and this problem also occurs in other industry like ISP.

Thank good the Mak Cik crap did not happen.

Better go down.

Bye bye,Marion.

*hugs

I agree with that...

However, the diesel roadtax which was high in west Malaysia alone, enough to deter diesel cars from being a good alternative for motoring public...

Compare that to Sabah and Sarawak where diesel roadtax is much lower than peninsular, and even people who usually drive in urban area, also buy Toyota Hilux