@ftzone,

to prevent more victims fall into the scammer that hacked ur account,
why don't you ask mod to delete this lyn account?
this at least will eliminate the chance to have more victims on the paypal stuff...

i have dealt with ftzone back in old days in zth buying racing stuff.
thru mail n postage...well deal went ok. stuff is accurate as mention..

kinda hard for me to believe he will con people..beside his attitude toward this..imo is co-operating and accommodating..

hope everybody will settle this. It is not impossible to have ur acc hacked. it happened to one of the mod here already

ps:no im not his friend. just old customer chipping some info.

Kelvin, with your edited thread title, it is even worst than the original... now you are accusing me that I am also known as TS PRONTON ENTERPRISE? This is called defamation! I was trying to be nice and I think I have explained myself clearly. I had enough tolerating this from you.
Do you know damaging ones reputation with baseless accusation is wrong? If I said that you looked like a gay! would you be be happy?
The Tribunal did not accept your case because they have a good reason. Because all these while you have been just accusing me!

cschun86,
deleting accounts will not solve anything. if some one used your name to cheat, will you change your name?

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Added on November 21, 2008, 12:09 pmEventhough I cannot recall who you are and what items you have purchased from me but I thank you and appreciate that you shared your kind thoughts.

I travelled by bus from Penang to KL for the Tribunal hearing. I sat a 1am bus and reached Pudu at about 5.30am. I walked around like a ghost trying to figure out how to get my ass to the Tribunal... and finally I got on a bus nearby and got off at Jalan Chow Kit, I walked again for about 1km to Putra Place which is actually known as The Mall. I was there at 7am and I patiently waited for the Mall to be opened. After the hearing which ended at approximately noon, I got myself lunch and got myself 2.30pm bus back home. I reached home at about 7pm and so was tired that I could hardly even open my eyes.

Did you guys know that about 10 million Americans suffer from identity theft? I now really feel their pain. Trust me, it's very time consuming to proof that you are innocent. The good news is that if you never cheated anyone or defaulted loans you didn't take, the truth will usually surface and the thieve will be caught eventually.

Hacking into e-mails is not impossible. The President of the Tribunal told Kelvin even FBI website has been compromised before. It is just not fair for a victim of identity theft to bear all the responsibilities. I heard Sarah Palin email got hacked too.. so Sarah Palin and the FBI is guilty? I have done my part as soon as I know that my account was compromised, and I believe that is the best I could do. Anyone not happy? That is no longer my problem.

This post has been edited by ftzone: Nov 21 2008, 12:09 PM

since sumwan chipped in some info bout ftzone...

may as well i chip some myself.. ftzone.. i have no idea what kind of seller u are.. bought from you projector headlamp b4... 1st day buy... used for less than a day... smsed u to ask y suddenly the angel eye one of the side fading... reply me in a way that is not helpful at all... " no warranty,he said for the very 1st reply frm his sms.." come on ... i m asking u y fading... not asking u can warranty or not... at least brief me sum advice why can lidat... NONE... ok... 3rd Day ... whole thing blowed... not even the 4th day using it... 1 side angel eye buta d... dunno what kind of item u selling... eventho is a non warranty item also doesnt make sense.. used 3 days only kaput d.. and the best thing is not helpful at all after item being purchased... all u can keep saying is NO WARRANTY... like i buy my pasal d...

i m not making ur name bad here... but this is my experience dealing with you... after since dat day... dare not buy any item frm u at all.... no doubht ur trade list alot in lelong, just becoz u got post items to them thru out many parts of malaysia.. when comes to servicing and helping frm seller to buyer... u are not recommended at all...

Hey, I remember this FTZONE.
On July 2008, i was looking for paypal funds of $600. So this guy emailed me, saying he has reputation in lelong. But I was smart enough. Instead of ftzone.racing@gmail.com published on that lelong website, he used ftzone.racing@hotmail.com to email me. I have been conned before that, so I am super caution this time. And that email is still in my mail. Here are those mails:

This one was between me and FAKE ftzone:



So, right after I get his so called lelong ID, I sms-ed the hp number as published on LELONG.
The real Raymond asked me to forward that email to his email which is at ftzone.racing@gmail.com.
And REAL ftzone replied me:



So, your RM3000 surely gone.

From the emails, we can see that F ftzone never ends an email with "regards, Raymond". But the REAL ftzone's email always end with "regards, Raymond".

This post has been edited by canny1985: Nov 21 2008, 01:47 PM

FigureManiac,

I am sorry about your case. But if I may ask, which part of my advertisement and product description that you didn't understand? I have clearly mentioned that the projector headlamps with ccfl rings are sold without warranty. It was a bargain, and I believe you decided to purchase it eventhough you are aware of the risks.

You see, sometimes a product is offered at a low price that the manufacturer, distributor and sellers cannot afford to provide warranty.
I have tested your headlamps to be in working condition before I ship it to you. It is unfortunate that the headlamps ccfl lamps failed after a few days using it.
It is not my intention to sell you faulty products. I have spoken to my supplier and they cannot accept any returns because the product is sold as is.
If I recalled, I have offered you an apology and recommended you a solution. You could change the CCFL ring to a new one with some aftermarket rings, but of course it isn't free.

I too took the risk and decided to purchase the headlamps because of the low pricing they are offering. Just to let you know, one of my stock which I tested to be faulty prior for shipment and I couldn't sell it at a profit and I couldn't return it to my supplier. I bare that lost. It's just the risk you have to take when purchasing such products which is not covered with warranty. End up I sell it way below cost just to clear it. Currently I am also using the same headlamps as well... it is still working fine though.

It is just like buying a flouresent lamp at the supermarket. They test it there, it worked and you purchase it back home. Once at home you install it and after 3 days the lamp failed to work anymore. If the lamp you purchased didn't come with a warranty, I am afraid you will just need to buy another lamp. It is unfair to say that I didn't help because I did respond to your enquiries.

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Added on November 21, 2008, 1:34 pmSpeaking of this, now I recall it too... you are smart enough because you contacted me before you made any payments.
As for your doubts, I have explained it in previous posts. Read it carefully and you will get the picture why I asked him to wait...


This post has been edited by ftzone: Nov 21 2008, 01:34 PM

i did understand that item is no warranty... but when i smsed you to ask for help... u shud help me by briefing me where to make it right or how... i m not asking for refund pls make urself clear as my 1st post... i m accusing u of not helping only .. not saying u duwan refund... and u said can be done but not free... when i asked u.. u told me cannot repair at all... for ur info... i got ur ads in lelong.com.my... yes... i m greedy to purchase sumting cheap.. i did expect sumting will happen in the future for this item with cheap price and in another hand no warranty... but i didnt expect 3 days used ... dat oso din make me so pissed off till u as the seller with verified and positive rating didnt help me... i tot ppl like u wit alot of positive rating shud be frendly enuff to lead the buyer to any problems just to maintain future dealings again... but u did not make it up to that standard... however it was months ago..after u didnt help me i also dare not call/sms u to ask help again... coz i know i ask 10 times oso da answer frm u will be the same... btw,u did not say sorry the last time... this is the 1st time in this post... anyway i accept ur apology.. hope u settle ur paypal prob asap... good luck in future business!!

This post has been edited by FigureManiac: Nov 21 2008, 01:39 PM

pity me pity him
edited * taking advise from a wise man


This post has been edited by 2611: Nov 21 2008, 04:39 PM

Im really not sure why this TS PRONTON keep Pretending to be FTZONE. There are lots of reputable seller out there and he just want to be you, RAYMOND. Not the 1st time, but the 3rd time from September till now.


Anyway , To ppl out there, for every transaction dealing with FTZONE, pls do call the REAL RAYMOND 1st to minimize the potential fraud or scamming purposes.

*I guess the title better now.

This post has been edited by juztborn: Nov 21 2008, 04:21 PM

Kelvin,

Thank you for a better edited title. I appreciate that.

TS PRONTON ENTERPRISE, I believe has been using several means of communications including pretending and hacking into reputable seller's account email, msn or skype or which ever possible channels of communications. Not just myself. I have studied the Sept Con Case related to TS PRONTON and it has nothing to do with me.. just that the name Raymond is the same as mine. Raymond is just too common english name. Phone & Email is entirely different from mine. Maybe it's just my bad luck. Believe me Kelvin, this scammer is not just using my name... dig deeper and you'll find out eventually. Don't let your desperation in getting back your money blind you from facts. Creating a tunnel vision on me alone will not get back your money. The key now is to find and gather facts and proof to nail the real scammer. I am still working on it.

FigureManiac,
Thank you for accepting my apologies.

Got One Buyer Said He Is Paypal Seller In Forum - Joe Wong.

He Add Me To MSN: kmmauto@live.com

Provide A Very Low Rate Of Paypal.

Ask Me To Bank In Etc...

Again. Pronton A/C.

Thx for the Info.

Damn i just bankin RM330 to ts pronton enterprises.. Someone sms me and told he is joe wong.. mean i'm victim now!!

just check that TS PRONTON ENTERPRISES locate at jitra,kedah. Need to wait until my friend who work in ssm to get detail about this company.

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Added on December 3, 2008, 8:14 pmi've trace this facking guy!! see at my thread for detail - http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/864457

This post has been edited by shahnakal: Dec 3 2008, 08:14 PM

bump this shit up !!! unsolved !!!

oh my god...im also the victim of ts pronton... me advertised in rc tech forum to buy a spektrum for rc car..i put my tel no..then someone sms me and offer me the item.. after some negotiation...so he ask me to bank in using maybank 5520-6803-1857 under pronton enterprise and claim his name is ahmad fazlee..until now the item not received..said sent on thursday last week..

demm.. tak puas hati la .... scamm people.. still keep the sms and email and also the bank transfer receipt.. so guyz let find this guy..very annoyyinggg demmmm what should i do..how to let police know this person is serious con man

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Added on December 10, 2008, 4:16 pmnow im trying to call the person...u guyz can guess that the phone is already switch off.. tel no 014-9918636 ... my location in kl.. hope all the victims can step forward and meet with me and can disscuss furthermore how to trace this guy..

so pls bring all the police lodge and together we should go to the police station where the person in charge of this case should know that this demm guy are really seriously conned people . so with several police report, hopefully the police personnel will take more seriously handle this case... if only me report to the police..for sure there is no action been taken..they might think kes kecik je.... so guyzz...are u with me??

This post has been edited by rajadcfives: Dec 10 2008, 04:16 PM

U are the fifth guy.... Haiz... Hmm, try to meet up after 12/12/08.. I can try to arrange with another victim.

dealt with raymond (ftzone) before, deal was quick n easy

i feel...if i have a good business going on online and in a brick and mortar shop...and have a good reputation to hold on to...i wont risk blowing years of hard work by suddenly wanting to earn big bucks by scamming ppl of their hard-earned money...

just my take on the matter...

This post has been edited by tofu: Dec 11 2008, 11:04 AM

Jz Beware! Only GOD knows wat raelly happen.

unsloved !!
bump it uppp

the thing is,
why isnt that pronton account frozen? its still active till now.