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bluesfingers
post Jan 15 2009, 10:40 AM

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Hi guys ...i m recently looking around for water filter (excluding RO water) as well, the following is my personal findings & Ratings for those commonly heard in the market:-

1) E-spring - the only filter system in Malysia CERTIFIED by NSF 42, 53 & 55 std (bear in mind is not only certified conform to NSF std) - beware alot of the products playing with this wording infact many of the local products indicated "conform to NSF std" only. Why? cause i believe it is not easy to get & maintain their certification- http://www.nsf.org/consumer/about_NSF/cert_benefits.asp
Price ard RM3,000 & replacement filter catridge cost ~RM 500/yrs (correct me if i m wrong)

2) Philips WP3890/2 (NEW)- CERTIFIED by WQA conform to NSF 42, 53 & 55 std (this machine is tested in WQA of US according to NSF std only- check it out what they had been certified in WQA)- http://www.wqa.org- Price ard RM1,400 & replacement filter catridge cost ~RM 250/yrs @ RM125 per filter /6months/ 3000 litres

3) Aquasana - Tested/ Certified by "State of California Department of Health Services" which conform to NSF 42, 53 only, Price ard RM1,000 & replacement filter catridge cost ~RM 650/yrs/ 2 sets of filters- local seller claim the filter can last for 1 year but pls be careful & check the US website 1st, it is recommended to change the filter set every 6mths or 500gallons whichever come 1st in order to prevent bacteria growth...

3) Diamond- CERTIFIED by WQA conform to NSF 42 (remove odor, chlorine, etc) & 53 but the "reduction claim" certified is on the Turbidity ONLY- check it out! VOC, lead, bacteria, virus reduction not being tested at all? Price RM1500? unsure ..too many promotion!!!

4) Nesh, Cosway-Hexagon, Pensonic, UE-tec, Dr.Sukida, RX water - No certification being published on their website or tested by any reputable lab/ even local lab! some of them have many awards...means what? dun u think that a lab certification is a lot more meaningful & important? or they expect us to send those water to the local lab & test it out ourself? it will cost u a bomb man!!! We don't know what they claimed in their brochure/website about the goodness of their system/ water quality is true or not..this is all about branding their products!!! even a doctor need ur blood test report to tell u ur health condition.. dun they need a water testing report to prove to us their water is safe to consume?

I m not a MLM member or salesman & i m still using those Cheapo type selling at TESCO/ JUSCO twin filter with 1 ceramic & 1 carbon filter cost u less that RM100.. i have been drinking this water directly thru this filter w/o boiling since 2005... i m still alive , feel like wana upgrade to a better 1.
As a result, my best bet is on the Philips filter which is more affordable, cheaper maintenance on replacement filter catridge (2 sets/ yrs & the UV light bulb can last for 7 years, certified & tested by WQA, a product by a lot lot more trusted/ reputable/ old brands.

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post Jan 15 2009, 11:52 AM

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There are ONLY two kinds of water filters that can get rid of dissolved heavy metal like LEADS, Mercury and cadmium.... One is RO Filter. The other is Brita water filter. Dissolved heavy metal cannot be get rid off by boiling.

RO Filter is very cheap in USA. It is about USD $200 only. But, it is HARD to bring into Malaysia due to power and plumbing.

http://www.brita.com/us/

Brita Water Filter is a water pitcher or fit in a water faucet. It is ONLY USD $30. The cartridge is ONLY USD $10 each. You need about 4 per year for typical family. There is an Australian brand selling in Ace hardware in Mid-Valley. I do not know whether it is as good.

I use Brita water filter plus boiling my water.

For drinking water, the best choice is if you get someone to buy Brita water pitcher for you in USA and bring in for you.

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This post has been edited by dreamer101: Jan 15 2009, 11:53 AM
pic3s
post Jan 15 2009, 07:14 PM

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Hexagon water filter from cosway.
it has certifications as well from chemical and US scientist. You just need to read the booklet that comes in it.
at least i trust them cause they do not hang poster like diamond and other brands at roadside.
Buy 1 free 1. hahaha. where got quality product sell at roadside??? lol!

Hexagon
rm699 if member and pay by cash.
rm1300 if pay by credit card or non member.

been using it for 3 years since i move to my new house.
once the rubber was leaking. called cosway, the guy came over the next day. replace all the parts. best part is that he did not charge me anything.

he said it's because still under warranty. then only i know it's 5 years warranty free for all parts. after 5 years. rm50 per service.

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bluesfingers
post Feb 7 2009, 04:13 PM

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Don't be fool by Cosway Hexagon water... juz investigate their products and my findings are:-
i) NSF, WQA and alot of logo being published in 1 page (bottom) of their website http://www.ecosway.com/ecosway/SuperSelect.../hexagon_06.jsp & the logo images look blur. is that copy & paste from some where?
ii) The funny thing that i found is the whole catalogue/ product description nvr mentioned about the CERTIFICATION status, Why? are they so humble or what? i believe it's not cheap and easy to get all this body to certify their product.
iii) The worst thing is i found out that NSF denied their claimed read this
http://www.nsf.org/regulatory/newsroom/cea.asp
Anyway i cant say that this water system is not work at all but without all the proved of the efficiency why dun we buy a tesco/jusco type DIY filter. but Hexagon water is comparatively cheap as compare to others like diamond, nesh, etc. which i think they all are using a similar filtration system- Ceramic-Carbon-KDF.

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post Feb 10 2009, 12:41 AM

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how about RO water maker like Rain maker??? It boils water and catches the steam and then condense back into water. I think that's the only way to get pure water. Been using it for a year already, no prob
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post Feb 11 2009, 03:33 PM

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yup...RO water is very pure and very safe to drink...
however, it's doesn't contain minerals which our body needs...
fyi, s'pore gov prohibit RO water is their schools as it will affect the growth of kids....
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post Feb 15 2009, 11:09 AM

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i'm using Diamond Antibac, no need change filter,
just clean the ceramic filter every mth will do, after 1 yr.. get a new one.. only RM400 mah

RO is the best but expensive, we can always drink a glass of 100plus, milo, milk, etc for the minerals intake


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post Feb 15 2009, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(fbs @ Feb 11 2009, 03:33 PM)
yup...RO water is very pure and very safe to drink...
however, it's doesn't contain minerals which our body needs...
fyi, s'pore gov prohibit RO water is their schools as it will affect the growth of kids....
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QUOTE(cherasbabe @ Feb 15 2009, 11:09 AM)
i'm using Diamond Antibac, no need change filter,
just clean the ceramic filter every mth will do, after 1 yr.. get a new one.. only RM400 mah

RO is the best but expensive, we can always drink a glass of 100plus, milo, milk, etc for the minerals intake
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You buy expensive few K of water filter system to get rid of those mineral, then take 100 plus to replace those mineral?
100 plus water may just use normal filtered tap water only. biggrin.gif
So at one hand, you spend few thousand to get rid of it, on the other hand, your replace it with something origin you get rid of it from another source. biggrin.gif
No offence.

Normal filtered water is safe to drink as well, not something like RO water is very safe to drink compared to normal filtered water.

I don't think we need super duper clean purifying water (until no mineral at all) for our body, instead too 'clean' water might not good for our body naturally.

RO is not something is the best, it is just another type of water. Long term with RO water might be bad as well.

My opinion only.


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post Feb 15 2009, 10:22 PM

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cherasbabe,

I think Diamond must be something wrong ???? One ceramic filter cost u RM400??? diamond boss must be laughing all the way to the bank!!!!
Ceramic filter is not an exp filter, the most pioneer & reputable ceramic filter Doutlon only selling their filter around RM30-80!!! hahahahhaaa......
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post Feb 15 2009, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(bluesfingers @ Feb 15 2009, 10:22 PM)
cherasbabe,

I think Diamond must be something wrong ???? One ceramic filter cost u RM400??? diamond boss must be laughing all the way to the bank!!!!
Ceramic filter is not an exp filter, the most pioneer & reputable ceramic filter Doutlon only selling their filter around RM30-80!!! hahahahhaaa......
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Just some research that i found in the net smile.gif

http://bbs.lelong.com.my/bbs/showthread.php?t=19682

Diamond might be a scam shocking.gif
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post Feb 16 2009, 12:21 AM

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Yar , Diamond is Expensive , & Also Nesh ... Scam ??... Dunno much about that , All i know is their Marketing way is No Different from any other Direct Selling / Multi Level Marketing company.....

Btw , ANY advise on Any Not SO Expensive Water Filter / Water Purifier n the Market ???... Something which is Not too expensive.... Something Below RM 300 - RM 400 like that lar , Gor ar ? For usage in the Kitchen for Condo or Apartment ..... biggrin.gif

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post Feb 16 2009, 02:16 PM

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the whole set is RM400, ceramic filter alone is about RM30 if not mistaken


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post Feb 17 2009, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(cherasbabe @ Feb 16 2009, 02:16 PM)
the whole set is RM400, ceramic filter alone is about RM30 if not mistaken
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Wat Brand is This ??.. Wat Model ??...Thanks... smile.gif
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post Feb 19 2009, 05:30 PM

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I heard amway one is ok also, think to get that if i move new house... biggrin.gif
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post Mar 24 2009, 02:22 PM

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Myth about ro water. tongue.gif

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/974682
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post Jul 6 2009, 03:13 PM

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I was looking a water filter too...after reading so many comments, i need Phillips is the most value for money water filter...anyone know where to get it?
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post Jul 17 2009, 01:06 PM

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I would like to share my experience of using a water filter for drinking and cooking for 5 years.

Poke open its cover last month and shocked to see some growth in the filter itself!!! cry.gif

All the while we have been drinking contaminated water rupa-rupanya! icon_question.gif

Well it was my own mistake not to change the filters according to their schedule.....but hey.....I tried but somehow when I got to know how much more I need to fork out for the filter replacement.....I just said to myself....tak apalah....lain kali boleh buat.... whistling.gif

Anyway....I came to conclusion that buying a water filter system is similar to acquiring a photocopier for the office....it needs excellent support service in order for it to perform as it should. That's how I came across Coway water filter at www.mycoway.net

The good thing is it's not just water filter, but also a water dispenser for hot, room and cold temperature. Some more it's having digital interface which makes it kind of cool with LED lighting.

Unlike other brands that sell almost every type of products including water filter that could be manufactured in China which they then put on their logo stickers, Coway do the R&D and manufacture themselves in Korea.

I cost me just RM110 per month and I need not worry about quality of the filtered water anymore. Coway's service team will come for service every 2 months....sedar-sedar saja diorang call to set appointment. thumbup.gif



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The Coway Petit fits just nice in between other appliances in my kitchen.
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post Jul 17 2009, 01:16 PM

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Ain't it too expensive to rent a water dispenser for a drinking water? RM110/mth, you must be very kaya.
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post Jul 18 2009, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jul 18 2009, 10:46 AM)
Ain't it too expensive to rent a water dispenser for a drinking water? RM110/mth, you must be very kaya.
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I'm not kaya to buy RM4K-5K water filter that still need $$$$ to replace its filters...that's why I go for rental.....for just RM110 per month (auto charge to my credit card), I need not worry a thing.....in fact I guess Coway must be so worried that I might shift house and ran away with their asset brows.gif

I have done a bit of survey myself before decided on Coway hmm.gif Like I said in previous post, water filter won't work as it should, if the filters not serviced where you would end up drinking contaminated water like me before. There's a good video at www.mycoway.net that explains how their filtering system works.

I realized that Coway has a dedicated team to do just servicing every 2 months where they will clean the device and change the filters as per schedule. Not only that, after each time the Coway personnel came to my house, I sure get phone call the next day to verify whether the personnel did the right thing, wearing uniform, look presentable etc. Last sekali dia akan tanya our own rating on the service received.





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