I'm a touch typist, like most of us here I believe. It's odd and hard to adapt to using two fingers instead of 5 on actual Qwerty keyboard(which is why we have it, so we can blindly type).

I honestly wonder what's the plus point of Qwerty on mobile phone? We don't remember where the keys are, but instead on the real keyboard, we just put index finger on F and J, little finger on A etc. which is impossible to do on mobile phone.

This post has been edited by Underhill: May 24 2009, 01:31 PM

thanks aspire. it is the qwerty, solid form factor & multitasking that lure me to this phone. though it is my first qwerty phone,
i think i can do better than touchscreen phone...

U can go to Nokia centre to try out the phones. I personally prefer 5800 XM because i have 4 ways of input FULL SCREEN QWERTY and Alphanumberic when one of my hand is busy.

i read there is a lot of quality issue with this phone. initially, i was leaning towards 5800 xm but came across e71 & just kinda get hook to it.

well, i'll check it out again & make comparison for both.

thanks again. cheers.

Let me share this experience with you. If u do not know how there always problem everywhere. If you know how there is no problem. I have both E71 and 5800 XM honestly tell u i do not have any problem not even one.

Try consult a nokia & symbian experts and all your problem will go away. Its like you telling me windows vista is BUG FREE.

---

Added on May 24, 2009, 5:14 pmJust to sharing not showing off. Practice makes perfect.

I am typing this on my computer keyboard without looking where the keys are. When u switch to a phone qwerty the same habit adept itself. So on the phone i type without looking too. Its EXACTLY the same just its smaller

F and J are just a guide for newbie. When u master the keyboard we do not put our finger at F or J because when u found the first key u will automatic know the spacing of the next alphabet u want.

I do all my project and office emailing on my E71. I can provide a demo at your request.

This post has been edited by aspire2oo6: May 24 2009, 05:16 PM

I actually disagree. If you don't use your middle finger for F and J, then you're doing it wrong. Probably touch type by using self-rules which may not be very efficient (60-75 word per-minute?). Hence probably the reason you're able to move on to phone because the 'actual' rules don't apply. But it works for you, I guess this is Qwerty phone target users.

This post has been edited by Underhill: May 24 2009, 06:07 PM

I started with F and J as a guide. When you master or get used to it. Does it matter? Conclusion it gets the job done fast. No point ure so pro with F and J see what happen u cant adept it onto mobile phone QWERTY.

Then it becomes the phone fault. We are human we learn to adept to changes not changes adept to you.

I am capable to type at least 55 words and above in 1mins depending on what type of words required.

From my understanding the target and goal for QWERTY is to type words that not in the dictionary fast and accurate.

There no such thing as right or wrong its what one self prefer.

Its kinda true about your actual rules dont apply. From what i notice i type faster than ppl that use the F and J.

Just sharing YA

wow.. long time not come here... scofield r the hero
u update the 1st page.. very helpful

m
My advice.... try to play around if you have a chance at any shop. If you feel good then maybe it is suitable for you. If not....? Love it or hate it. Guess why so many people nowadays using it? For me it suits my needs & still the best from my previous phone.... alpha key, WM, touch screen etc. We are not here to argue about F & J. It is about whether the phone suits your needs.

Whatever it is,for me the qwerty give me maximum satisfaction when i type my sms or reply mails. It is just so easy to type and i love the phone spacing

Correct. So whoever buying learn to listen and test it then DECIDE.

Different ppl have different perspective in things. U make the choice

untrue

after a few weeks of using the phone

i dun haf to look at the keypad to type

i admit i make a few mistakes here n thr..but as time goes, it getsbetter

Nope, it is all up to the user. I too don't put my finger on the F & J key and I still can type without looking at the keyboard. Best of all, nearly 1/4 of the alphabet button on my keyboard is blank (the paint had wear off). The more you practice, the more comfortable and confident you will get. After some time, you will develop your own way to remember each key. It is just like driving a car, your body will automatically remember what to do next. My speed is 55~60 words per minutes with 98% accuracy (Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing test result).

It is the same on Qwerty keyboard. At first it is hell freaking hard but once your body recognize the position of the button after some practices, sap sap water already . I'm now enjoying Qwerty keyboard on my 5800 more then the conventional Alphanumeric method. I type so fast until the phone cannot respond to my speed, especially when I press 2 button so quickly it only recognize 1 letter (well the phone is not multi touch so I can't do much about it ). At the end I have to slow down and it is spoiling my fun (nokia fast fast come out multi touch phone ).

So my advise is practice more with your own personal method . Qwerty keyboard ROCKS .

i'am from pg, can anyone recommend a good & reliable shop?

i plan to get the e71 soon.

If u want to fully 100% utlize your E71 or symbian phone i suggest u consult a symbian expert to assist. Symbian not like SE phones or samsung non OS to have more features u need change phone but on OS u can install or upgrade without additional hardware only software required. Or else by a week or 2 u get bored of it and sell.

---

Added on May 25, 2009, 9:42 amCorrect. Same like my wireless keyboard all the keys fade off i can still type without looking its like your fingers know where the next keys are. So i guess its not hardware bug its human bug :/ human incompetent sometimes

This post has been edited by aspire2oo6: May 25 2009, 09:42 AM

my experience..the first time i got my hands on E71, i was darn happy..but the nightmare starts when i start to type message using the qwerty keypad..it was kinda hard in the beginning but it starts to ease after awhile..then you'll get hooked on it..

it might be a bit hard for certain people to use qwerty keypad as most of us are used to alphanumeric keypad..but then again, practice makes perfect..

This post has been edited by scofield: May 25 2009, 11:21 AM

well for me .. hav been a qwerty user b4 switching to e71 .. i switch from moto q9h to e71.. at 1st it is awkward as the keypad is smaller as compare with my previous q9h.. one of the best keypad i hav use so far.. but after some usage on the e71 .. i get use to it... now i hooked to it jus like most of u here..

...yea..I so hooked to my 71..

actually I was an ex user of E61i.

The screen and keypad is way larger than E71.

When i use E71 it feels not so comfortable everything shrink.

Like u said after awhile getting used to its fine. There one tiny advantage 5800 XM over E71. Is the large touch screen so the virtual qwerty also large

i have used symbian phone before but only difference this one is qwerty kp.