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SKY 1809
post Apr 8 2009, 05:18 PM

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FENG SUI THREAD

or 4 years plan

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SKY 1809
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 8 2009, 05:28 PM)
beauitful laugh.gif

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I thought the new system - just cannot be ........

Must report back to Najib
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post Apr 8 2009, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 8 2009, 05:39 PM)
magician Najib? maybe he kept his magic wand jor. brows.gif
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It is advisible for me to turn off the LCD from now until the bull comes back.



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post Apr 8 2009, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(elhh82 @ Apr 8 2009, 06:59 PM)
i think bursa fked up their system.

their new system with the last done price was designed to prevent price manipulation at closing but this was exactly what happened.

If you look at the top counters in klci, all of them had trade that were executed during the closing session (last 15 mins) that was lower than the last price before the closing session.
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It was a clear manipulation .

I was monitoring TMI where lot of buyers at rm 1.85 at about 4.45pm

Suddenly big lot of 5000 or so appeared to sell at rm 1.81 at 4.47 pm or so. Why need to key in lower when there were still buyers at much higher level ?

I guess Bursa does not really care .

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QUOTE(elhh82 @ Apr 8 2009, 07:26 PM)
and the best part it, when i tried to sell at their last price, their system screwed up and wouldn't execute my trade.

I was selling a low volume counter, ICAP to be exact.

Last price was 1.44, the higher buyer queued at 1.45 (20 lots), and there was a buyer at 1.44 (40 lots).

I sent an order to sell 35 lots at 1.44. By logic, the system should match me for 20 lots at 1.45 and 15 lots at 1.44. But nothing happened, i couldn't cancel, called my broker and they couldn't do anything coz the bug happened at bursa.

Looks like i found a bug in their system. Hehe
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Yesterday, I had to key in in 3 times to sell my LCL at 57 sen, when the buyer was at 57.5sen.

First 2 times went missing, the last one was matched at 58sen.

A bit lucky though.

I called up my broker a couple of times to confirm. A broker back up sometimes helps.

Internet trading is not full proof platform.

Just to share.

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post Apr 8 2009, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Apr 8 2009, 10:06 PM)
At least DJ show us some hope tomorrow. biggrin.gif
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US going to re write laws again - proposing to limiting short sellings.
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post Apr 9 2009, 12:51 PM

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The sad thing about DIY investments.

You spend so much time doing research, and you know they are good .

But finally coming to a major decision,

You lose the confidence.

Even you jump into it, you jump out too soon.

Are you well paid for your research ?
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post Apr 9 2009, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(Junior83 @ Apr 9 2009, 01:28 PM)
Though my gut tell me RESORT will dam sure goto RM2.5 by July/Aug, i still wanna watch the price  daily in case it shoot up so i can achieve my tp earlier  sweat.gif
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Be patient. The market is on rotational plays.

Your turn would come, either sooner or later.

Happy waiting biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 9 2009, 01:51 PM)
new cabinet announcement would be out by 4PM, wonder how would it affect our market  hmm.gif

dow future is green +72.00
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The new Deputy FM is interesting.

I guess she could be a capable lady. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(simplesmile @ Apr 9 2009, 02:00 PM)
I just thought of something and I'd like to share with you guys. Give me your feedback.

I went to a free preview talk by one of the local traders. She said her trading strategy is to follow the money. Follow the money means following Foreign Funds. From my memory, this is how it works. FF will come in to buy the shares... then goreng it up. At high price, it will slowly sell 80% of its shares. Then the last 20%, it will sell aggressively to make the price fall alot. Small investors will get scared and follow to sell. Then when time is right, the FF will start buying up cheaply again.

I don't know if what she said is true or not. But if it is true, then maybe our market hasn't bottomed yet. This depends on what the FF wants to do.

A few weeks ago, The Star pointed out that the FF has less than 20% equity in the stock market. If what the speaker said is true, then will the FF use this last bit of shares to sell down the market?

Look at Oct 2008. Our market crashed. Many counters price dropped alot. The problem is, at that time, the FF were selling because they wanted to repatriate the capital back to US. Not because they wanted to profit. So even when prices were low, they still sold.

The speaker's analogy: Sell 80% to take profit, then sell 20% to crash the market.
What happened: Sold lots of shares to repatriate capital back to US. Now left with less than 20% equity.

What will the FF going to do with the remaining shares? Will they sell down the market, or will they sell these remaining shares at the best price they can get to minimize their losses or maximise their profit? Remember, they didn't profit enough when they sold their earlier shares.

If FF take first action, then market hasn't bottomed yet. If FF takes second action, then likely market has already bottomed.
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I think PNB is smarter than FF. They are collecting now.

When FF come, PNB would sell to them at double the price.

The last time, I saw PNB sold KLK at rm15 a piece. biggrin.gif

Judge your own.


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To certain extent it is true.

They sold Genting aggressively down. Resort World could be another.

When they left, Genting bounces back.
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QUOTE(whizzer @ Apr 9 2009, 02:19 PM)
I don't think FF are so co-ordinated in their action. Maybe if only one major FF in the market, then they can manipulate or if they target specific counters. I think the case of selling/buying in the whole market more like a herd movement thing rather than co-ordinated effort to crash the market  smile.gif
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1997/98. It was co-ordinated, well planned in ahead.

But History is not a favorite subject nowaday

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QUOTE(simplesmile @ Apr 9 2009, 02:23 PM)
I cashed out LCL @0.57 today. Waiting to buy back @0.56 but seems like it's not coming down. Unlike yesterday, it was yo-yo up and down. Let's see if it comes down tomorrow. If my plan works out, I end up with an extra 600 shares.
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I like your 4 years plan, though. biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(thken @ Apr 9 2009, 02:23 PM)
did you know that genting is losing money in overseas such as england?
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Did you know the price go up ?

I prefer Genting than Citigroup, if given a choice.

One is a gold mine and the other is a LAKE.

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QUOTE(thken @ Apr 9 2009, 02:26 PM)
yeah i knew that and i think they stop losing money
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They could be the King of Casinos, if the rests go bust one by one.
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QUOTE(tessei @ Apr 9 2009, 03:52 PM)
MR MARKET=LYN MEMBERs=UNDECIDED UP/DOWN (for the moment)
- prefer market CORRECTION ATM
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Go long term - 4 years plan. biggrin.gif

Day to day is like a football game.

You never go wrong.

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Imaging if all banks ask you for a copy of income tax form before accepting FD deposits.

6 months down the road, there would be a bank crisis.

More right issues on the way.

Saying is easy, no doubt.

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post Apr 9 2009, 05:22 PM

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The law cannot apply differently to diff color of people.

otherwise it would become unjust.

Some bodies would be on top of the laws.
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ISA is created for the opposition.

I think ONLY one BN went into the jail under ISA in the history.

Why BN is losing if no one breaks the law ?

The people looked stupid in the eye of the Law, supporting those are breaking the law ?


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post Apr 9 2009, 10:28 PM

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It is the changing of accounting rule ( mark to market ) that " allows" banks to reports good profits. That would create wealth throughout whole world markets.

The change of accounting rule/law that could save many jobs in the future, though many accountants do not agree.

But if it is the benefits of the whole world , why not ?

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Accounting is just a " fair value" judgment, never be perfect.

It is always assumed that a co is able to operate On A Going Concern Basis, then only the rest of the rules are applicable.

If a co is "dying" likes a person, that diff sets of rules applied.

Correct me if I am wrong.

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