which is the best or most popular laminated flooring in malaysia?????

Robina Laminated Flooring.........pm me for further detail..........tq

Endurex Laminated Flooring

Europe imported ones are very expensive. Most others are about the same quality, just marketing. Tthe cheaper ones are mainly made in China but has features like anti cigarette burn, high scratch resistance. i got mine at RM6.80 per sq ft the 12mm thick board from Klang

i heard floor depot's having a 50% promotion for this month, not too sure about the quality and finishing though. anyone with experience with this company?

have you experince noisy sound while step on it? like crak crak sound?
but if the room is filled with air-con then no sound.
my customer complained & have to give discount

Any updates of laminated flooring brands?

robina, innovar? is floor depot a brand name? what else?

robina having promotion for selected color, 8mm thickness rm4.80 per sq ft. normal price is rm5.50 per sq ft. please feel free to contact hoss marketing for further information

there is another type of flooring which is vinyl type.... it has the wood grain feel..... however its thinner.... and more expensive.... i got quote for around RM9.00 psf including installing.... :S
anyone care to share their thoughts?

This post has been edited by lazzy_dogg: May 2 2011, 11:33 PM

where u want to install this type of flooring? office or home?

I only got to know they got up to 40%. Been surveying for the past month, still doubts whether abt their quality or finishing.


Floor depot is specialize in laminate flooring. So far they are giving out 40% discount and i still thinking which to choose. i got quoted @ 6.10/sqft include installation, with double laminated, 12mm, comes with PE foam, glory type. Anyone had experience with Floor Depot?

Pergo - world leader in laminate flooring

www.pergo.com

4.80/sqft include installation?

why choose 12mm over 8mm?

Mori offered RM6.50 psf (including installation) in recent HomeDec. Yes, vinyl is more expensive compare to laminate.

The SA sd it's more durable but not sure if it's true.

planning to install in the home.... funny enuf they told me there is no need to place foam/rubber as base.... just install vinyl.... thinner board, less one layer in between, yet more ex.... :S

Was quoted RM6.30 include installation at Homedec recently. Forgot the brand, thk its Mori, made in Korea. Another brand is Coco, smewhr near Tesco Puchong. Material is abt the same with very authentic wood grains, Korean made too. Price shld be arnd the same too. Dun thk it's more exp than 12mm laminates. Am thinking to install at home too, but a bit sceptical coz not many ppl have first hand experience to share, hoping someone can shed more light. Areas of concern: the joint (seams) might bulge, mold can form underneath the vinyl (i assume it will not be a pleasant smell too), since it's waterproof it'll be warmer coz heat would be trapped and health concern due to vinyl and glue. Im sure there are pros and cons to any floorings though.

How is floor depot?

can i know the thickness of the vinyl?

Anyone used the Floor Depot Laminate floor before?

I saw this vinyl too at homedec. Its thinner & i was thinking to lay on my tiles in the rooms so i can sleep on the floor. It can be laid on existing tiles but duno whether the tile groove lines will show over time onot .

Lazzydogg/mrPotato: its only 3mm. Good and bad coz if u lay directly over tiles the joint lines will tend to show when u view at an angle. Its less obvious if your existing tiles are 600X600 or if u put filler at the joints before u lay over the vinyl. The good is, since its so thin, u can probably keep your existing skirtings. Was quoted by Subfloor at puchong for RM4 psf w/out installation. The glue is abt RM200, good enuf for 800+ sf installation. With installation shld be arnd 6.50, but for area less than 300 sf, there'll be a xtra charge of RM300 for installation.

i plan install vinly tile with the wood feeling
in penang it cost rm 6 Per SF.....include installation...
any comment about this vinly tiles?
plan to use it because my house got white ants..

Gary1981, in this coming Super Home Ideas Exhibition in Mid Valley on 27-28 May, the discount is up 70%

My sale consultant jz inform me to wait for this promotion save my wallet alot..

If interested, I can intro him to you. Gd service & follow up

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Added on May 14, 2011, 1:34 amof cox more comfortable..

Last time I went Floor Depot, they let me try step on the 12mm and 8mm..got different feel

Im going to this coming Super Home Ideas Exhibition to pick for my daughters room..

haha...this time 70%..keke..

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Added on May 14, 2011, 1:37 amYep..im using

planning to get another one for my daughter room

my salesperson good service + follow up. haha...im booming him alots questions..LOL. he still patiently explain to me..

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Added on May 14, 2011, 1:39 amVinyl? Erm...I think u mean the EUROX Vinyl..

I saw it in HOMEDEC KLCC..Floor Depot..

If im not mistaken, its 4mm thickness. They have the sample display there..

This post has been edited by MsPopcorn: May 14 2011, 01:39 AM

Can check got how much discount for charmwood decking? thx

errr..discount im not sure

i also waiting for the next exhibition in Mid Valley 27-29 May. My salesperson told me got big surprise wo

He say will update me the discount rate at the 2 weeks later before the exhibition starts..

u can PM me ur contact, then i ask him to update u ..

btw..chamwood decking..woo...rich guy detected for ur house swimming pool a..

This post has been edited by MsPopcorn: May 15 2011, 12:19 AM

my house living and dining area is using robina floor 8mm ac3 with price rm4.80 per sq feet, fully satisfied with their product and service

@mspopcorn
Pm me the sales consultant contact.

@maxguy
The price include installation? Is it glory type and double layer laminated?

the best flooring is always the solid woods flooring but very expensive compare to hdf flooring.

so if the discussion is all about hdf flooring then i will said some is all about marketing and some is about the truth. which until now i cannot tell which is which, so if its about termite proof and water proof i think most of it will fit in this category just the different is the country it manufactured. just to tell the truth the complete panels will have a layer of wax or treatment to prevents the above two, but they cannot guarantee the already cut to size panels. yupp if the respective flooring sales persons can share more on this is welcome since i'm not selling this products.

robina single laminate..

Thanks for the info.... maybe you can keep us updated here when you get the info....
note: i am going to be in PN 17 very soon.... hahhaa

indeed true solid timber flooring will always the best if the budget is allow, i did it for all the bed room with merbau 16mm x 95mm T&G and the cost is almost three times of laminated flooring

PN 17?

mind to explain?

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Added on May 16, 2011, 11:09 amhoho..rich guy detected

its a good pick..

This post has been edited by MsPopcorn: May 16 2011, 11:09 AM

i got a consider good bargain during last homedec, rm11.80 per sq feet

i plan to choose floor depot for my renovation. reason is i can see many of their shop at shopping complex. im sure they are good, if not y so many of their shops around.

or any recommendation that is at PJ area?

vincentwee..lets wait for their promo

im going to visit them in coming exhibition in Mid Valley..27-29 May. wanna join?

for floor depot... i think chamwood is the best choice..... water proof!!

i heard FD board is manufactured in China so i doubt they said was in MY...... so any different if in China or MY?

my toilet

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Added on May 17, 2011, 2:34 pm u sure?

source?


This post has been edited by MsPopcorn: May 25 2011, 09:03 AM

I went to inovar and the sales person said FD is manufactured in China. They marked up their price n give discounts as well. On top of that, they incurred alot of advertising fees and promotional activities to market their products that's why its over priced.

btw.... i finally found the right flooring for my house.... vinyl.... these were my thoughts of buying from a particular vinyl company:

1) this company has the vinyl the wood grain feel really follows the wood looks.... i.e. if the wood has a "eye" you can actually feel the shape of it... very realistic...

2) so far this is the only vinyl company i know that use interlocks.....

3) best of all.... LIFETIME warranty against termites and water....

I lol-ed at this

any co. will praise their competitor.. ?

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Added on May 30, 2011, 1:26 amwooo..from superhome?

btw..of cox vinyl is lifetime warranty..bcox its rubber/pvc type. But for ur info..vinyl is glue on the floor. so next time u plan to remove it.. it will be costly and might damage ur floor..

This post has been edited by MsPopcorn: May 30 2011, 01:26 AM

fyi.... for the vinyl i bot, it doesnt need any glue.... its using interlock system

How abt the skirting? PVC or MDF skirting?
DO we need to repaint the MDF skirting?

the skirting is like the type you use for laminated if you want.... i am still not sure whether should i go for skirting or just bare wall.... saw some pics... not bad also if no skirting....

so we have laminated skirting as well? cos contractor just tell me like normal house MDF skirting(need to paint) or PVC skiritng(rm7 pfr)

You can leave it without skirting 1st lo...then later boring with it can put skirting lo
I also plan not to put skirting on my tiles floor...cos i dont like tiles skirting...so when have budget then put pvc skirting

This post has been edited by wrb7878: May 30 2011, 02:39 PM

PM me the co... im interested ^^

sure.... PMed you d.... hope you will like it as much i do....
been doing my research on both laminated, hardwood, and vinyl....
this seems like the right thing.... feels better than laminate, and no need to worry of water and termites....
also no gluing to the floor...

i think vinyl is not wood lah, just that they print some wood grain on it to make it "woodlike". i dropped it because of the bad memory of old type of cheap vinyl, those came in a roll with all sort of printed pattern on the tip layer you know.

moisture trapped beneath the vinyl, fungus growing... n if many people walk with sweating bare foot, the surface become sticky...although it can be solved with regular moping.

not to discourage u, may be this modern type of vinyl can solve the problem. i thing for sure, u must put skirting for laminate flooring to cover the gap reserved for the expansion of the wood, whereas u can save the money for skirting if u choose vinyl.

been doing some searching for my house flooring too, visited show room of lumber mart, inovar, floor depot n excel. may settle for laminated flooring at last because of cost concern. if wallet permmited, would definitely go for solid wood. just my 2 cents.

Bad idea. Looks good and expensive. Our Malaysian weather high RH is bad for the lamination. Won't last long.

not really. u can get laminated flooring all in below $7 per sf, whereas workmanship for tiles already at least $4 per sf, if included hacking n disposing the old tiles, would be another $2, don't forget u have to buy new tiles.

Decided to use inovar

I installed innovar last year on my stairs. During raya holiday, my water tank above the stairs leaked. So i have water dripping and puddling on my stairs for a week. I can see a white patches of fungi between the joints in some area. but what amazed me is the floor didnt damage much, only slightly dent at the joint. After awhile I did not notice the dent at all.
So I recommended Innovar for its durability.

how much per square feet?

Last time i ask is rm5psf included installation for innovar.
but i decide to take robina which have VACUMAT features...

http://www.robinaflooring.com/products_NewFeatures.htm

i think cannot get $5psf already.

as far as i know, Inovar n Robina manufactured locally, Excel made in China n Thailand, whereas Floor Depot made in China. their price r almost the same (n i think quality n technology the same too), just different marketing n pricing strategy.
the best is still solid wood, be it local merbau or imported teak. but it cost more than double

floor depot quoted me approx rm20psf including installation!!!

i think Floor Depot offers 3 types of laminated product, yours may be the most expensive one, with double laminated so called "designer" series?

last month they had a promotion with free installation. but the market is very compatative n every one is offering free installation for minimum of quantity.

why there is no such credible society like consumer association to carry a quality comparison in different products Malaysia, we can only listen to sales man talk without knowing which 1 is really better?

$20psf can get solid wood already.

This post has been edited by orientaliew: Jun 21 2011, 04:20 PM

anyone heard of lumber mart?
thining of supporting malaysia products.
where can i go to see robina and inovar showrooms?
preferably somewhere close to kota damansara please.
thanks.

lumber mart is near your place, just google. i walked in to their factory cum show room last month, n their service is the best, pity that their price also "the best" . seriously if i m rich enough i will use their service.
i visited inovar show room at PJ, n there is a Niro tiles showroom just beside.robina at hartamas i think. try to google.
good luck.

can. this guy still offer the price.
http://www.azrfloor.com/

actually the skirting/profile is expensive too. example. 600sf x 5 = 3K, the skirting will cost another 1.5K too.

what brand does the company use?

skirting not so expensive i think. if the 600sf is square, should be arround 100f x $5, that is $500 max.

they do inovar and robina.

normally will install laminated at bedroom.
so if 600sf = 4 room = 10x15/room = 50 feet/room = 200 feet(this is for square but not all room is square)
i toe skirting is very cheap, so after they(few LF contractor) come...the actual cost of skirting/profile is cost >1K(mdf) & 1.5K(pvc)

If u are interested, i can provide u the contact.......

I was deciding between Floor Depot and Inovar.
Finally, used Inovar for my house renovation. Used them for the ground and upper floor. Workmanship is also quite good. One of the best installer that I have come across. Compared to some of those installers that have done work in my house. They practically clean up as the work.

There are various type of flooring product from Inovar. I used their Timberline collection series. At that this they were having promotion. Got them at very good price.

http://www.inovarfloor.com/

how much?

really ah?
i thought laminated can tahan at least 10 years? most of them also promise to warranty this.

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Added on June 22, 2011, 4:44 pmif u seperated 600sf into 4 rooms, than your calculation is correct.
every potential consumer must aware of this because salesman always quote without mention the skirting price.
ask them to quote total cost.

This post has been edited by orientaliew: Jun 22 2011, 04:44 PM

See my post at " http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1822136/ " post 27 .

nothing is forever, including the waterproofing material.

u c, our traditional wisdom discourage sleeping on the concrete or stone or tiles, unless we are looking for trouble when we get old. as u said:" Ground floor, always have water vapour
seeping out of the concrete", water vapour will seep through joint of tiles too. so we have no choice indeed.
my situation is i bought a single storey house n renovate it, if i keep the existing tiles at the living area, i cannot find stock for the renovated area (n the tiles not nice too). if i change all the tiles, my budget must include hecking n re-cement the old area, that is a lot of money man

but laminated flooring can put directly on top of the old tiles, thus save money on hacking n re-cement. laminated should be better than solid wood in terms of water resistant, isn't it? so i have no choice.

any better idea if vinyl is out?

Emm, I remembered there are some supplier approached me based in 2007 in regards to this laminated timber flooring.... Apparently I found that, this are Melamine laminated timber floor... And is not timber at all actually... It actually give some Timber "feel" to the occupant...

Anyhow, I not too sure are you guys referring to the same material...

Save money easy lah, just do some pattern design with other new tile around the existing tile. The tiler will know just to cut and hack out the area for the pattern area.

As for re tiling the whole area with new tile, if differentiate height is not a problem, there are chemical available to allow you to re tile directly over the existing tile .

Laminate means joining layers together. How can glue be stronger than natural solid wood ..

u r right to certain extent. all laminated flooring r not real timber, just like "marble like" tiles not stone actually, just look n feel like marble.
laminated flooring are just a piece of wood like base made predominantly of wood(plus resin or plastic etc) with a layer of timber grain printed paper(or whatever u call it).

but it is the best substitute to real solid wood i suppose, at least to someone reluctant to spend too much on "real" wood, n certainly better than "wood like" vinyl. there is a product by floor depot which they market as "charmwood", almost waterproof that it can dip in the water! this one is more plastic than wood for sure.

Sorry friend,

I guess you are referring to Engineered Timber Flooring....

Let me recap some of the supplier I knew before, EKOWOOD, TIMBORA and BKT, I guess they are the pioneer in those Engineered Timber Flooring..

For Solid Timber Floor, I can't recap.. But I usually deal with Showroom in Damansara Utama...

For Melamine Timber Flooring, I guess is alot in the market.. From Made in China till local manufactured....

Laminate as per Wiki " A laminate is a material that can be constructed by uniting two or more layers of material together "

It is real wood lah bro. Only the top thin layer is the species the market have demand.

The laminate timber selling here is part con job. A thin layer could mean a thin veneer slice or if you are lucky 2-3mm thick veneer peel and the bottom layers could be plywood, MDF or particular board.

The proper laminated timber has at least 3 layers laminated under hot or cold glue press machine, with the top desired timber at least 3mm thick solid timber obtained by sawing, not veneer peel . This is what they called engineering laminated timber. or something like that.

Those manufacturer are taking us Asian for a long ride, cos the consumer never bother to learn what can and cannot be used. Of course, price is also a factor here.

Bro,

Thanks for your detail clarification.... I'm sure a lot of the LYN member benefited from your answer herewith....

Not mistaken, those Laminated Timber flooring selling currently are Smooth Finish at both End... Either back based with MDF or some other plastic material....

u will need to call them up to check. Have forgotten the exact amount that I paid last year. Remember that there is a min quantity. Else, there is a min labour charge (lump sum)

If u can, never use laminate flooring. Even real solid timber strip parquet is better. And they are nearly the same price. In general natural products always give your home a better 'feel' Artificial material are more suited to commercial areas where their purpose is to stand out.

It depend what you're looking for.
For heavy traffic and areas where there is possibility of termite, the the laminates would be better off.
Parquet strips tends to come off especially if you mops the floor frequently. Of course, the timber feel is something that the laminates does not have. The feeling of walking in timber is different compared to walking on laminated floor.
I know that; as my staircase is covered with timber strip while the rest of the floors with laminates.

ehhhh, put it this way:

when i said "not real wood" , i mean the core r either MDF, HDF or what ever material which is not a piece of solid wood but something mix with wood fibre n resin, compressed under high pressure n high temperature. for me, MDF n HDF is not real wood.

i can't agreed more that "The laminate timber selling here is part con job". here, usually when we said laminated flooring, we refer to those with a top layer of printed decorative paper (not even veneer!), that's why these laminated look identical whereas each piece of solid wood is unique.

the product with " at least 3mm thick solid timber" r more commonly referred as engineered hardwood, which can be more expensive than solid wood.

life is always a compromise, lose somewhere n gain somewhere. when u cannot afford solid wood but u like the wood feel, laminated is the natural choice for majority.

thanks for sharing, mr. hunter.

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This post has been edited by orientaliew: Jun 24 2011, 10:44 AM

Guys...just checking; my house is a double storey terrace. Is it okay to have laminated flooring for ground floor such as living area? Is it safe to put laminated flooring on tiles directly or to hack off the tiles first? There were some info on higher grade laminated flooring for heavy movement area, is this true?

don't know any reason why laminated floor for ground floor not suitable, i think lots of houses use it nowadays. maybe others can share?

i prefer to hack off first, but i think it all comes back to the sifu who does the work.

Can't think of a good reason why laminated flooring is not suitable for ground floor. Main concern would be the dampness from the ground below. If you are using timber based material, then it would be of a great concern. Not too much a concern for laminated flooring.
Anyway, before they lay the laminated flooring, an underlay is placed beneath. This is layer of plastic membrane. Some supplier uses a rubber membrane which will cost slightly more. This is a plus as it acts as a damp proof membrane as well as to give a cushion effect when you walk on the laminates. The cushion effect is more prominent if the area is large, say a living room, etc.

Don't think it is a necessary to hack away the existing floor tiles before laying the laminates. If you do that, you will have to level up the floor underneath before laying the laminates. Additional cost. For a good laminated floor finish (evenness and without the "hollow pockets" when walking on them), it is important to have a level surface. The edges between the laminates and the adjoining floor can be finish using some of these methods.








You will want to hack the existing floor (to lower them) if you want the laminate finish to flush with the adjacent flooring.

Laminate flooring are classified to denote it durability level. The common term used is AC rating. AC ratings are an abbreviated representation of a laminate’s resistance to abrasion, impact, stains and cigarette burns.
AC 1 - House, Residential, Moderate Traffic: Suitable for bedrooms or guest rooms
AC 2 - Residential, General Traffic: Suitable for living rooms or dining rooms
AC 3 - Residential, Heavy Traffic: Suitable for all areas
AC 4 - Commercial, General Traffic: Office, boutique, cafe
AC 5 - Commercial, Heavy Traffic: Public buildings, department stores

This post has been edited by kelvyn: Jun 26 2011, 03:19 PM

Gosh no!! Don't put laminate or any other timber flooring on tiles directly! Maybe carpet or vinyl is ok. My neighbour did that and then they had it taken out again. Then the blame game started as to whose fault is it.

Not advisable to put timber on ground floor unless you have done good water proofing to the flooring first. Otherwise you are asking for trouble. Termites love wet areas. And the timber won't last. However, I have solid timber for my ground floor rooms but its got to be hardwood teak. They are more durable and so far i don't have problems.

First of all, laminated flooring is not timber floor. They are of two different material; although the former was intended to look like the later..
The feel, when you walk on them are also different.

1. You can put laminated flooring on the ground floor. I have done that for my house. No problem about that. There is a moisture barrier below the laminated flooring. In some cases, a rubber membrane is place instead of the normal plastic sheet. This will give a better feel when walked on. It will be more prominent when the area is large.
If there are dampness from the ground, then what ever material that you intend to use will also have problem. This has to be taken off first.

2. There is no issue about placing the laminated flooring directly onto the existing tiles. (Provided there is no issue with the adjacent areas) All it needs is to have a flat surface. Any undulating in the floor should be touch up before laying the laminates. The laminate flooring installer should have check the existing floor before he start work. Any undulating and depression in the floor tiles should have been touch up first.
Of course, this will be additional cost. But, will be much cheaper than stripping the tiles and then level with cement screed. In fact the tiles will provide better moisture barrier than the cement screed.

The following are some of the cases that I have come across when I was looking up on laminate flooring for my house's reno.

Case 1:
The existing floor tile on the 1st floor were stripped off. The contractor's workers leveled up with cement screed. After the normal drying period, the laminate supplier came to start laying the laminates. Halfway thru, they found that the floor is not even. Thus the laminates were removed and placed by the side. The contractor then got the tiler to re-screed the floor to provide a flat surface. Laminated were then placed.
It is important to have a flat surface. That's all.

Case 2:
A house owner has placed the laminate flooring at his house entrance and living room area. They on the ground floor. No problem.

This was what that gave me the idea of placing the laminates at my house, entrance to give the different feel as you enter the house.
Just sharing what I found when I was renovating my house

What is different MDF and Timber skirting? Timber skirting is expensive than MDF?

Now i need to decide to use MDF or Timber or PVC skirting?
Any 1 got suggest?

MDF which stand for medium density fibreboard is made from the process of compressing the wood fibres under extreme pressure and temperature.
Timber is a natural product.
The finished of the MDF will be more uniform as it is an engineering product while timber, being a natural product will have it own characteristic.
the MDF skirting will come pre-finished and does not need varnishing. Timber skirting on the other hand will need either varnishing or painting.

PVC looks very fake and does not look natural.

Which material to use will depend on your peference

I personally did not use any skirting at all. I feel this looks better in my opinion.

This post has been edited by kelvyn: Jun 28 2011, 01:23 PM

i will leave my 2x2 floor tiles without tiles skirting...so plan to install the skirting later part....
yea..i saw the PVC is very fake...no natural at all....and then MDF seems low quality too...

then come to timber...found it look better

This post has been edited by wrb7878: Jun 28 2011, 04:00 PM

Hope I got you correctly
You are planning to use timber as your 2' x 2' tile skirting.
There are few considerations if you plan to timber as skirting. Just sharing what I encountered in my previous house.

The wall may not be straight thus causing problem as the timber are mostly straight. This can be resolve by cutting the skirting at the kink location.
The top of the floor tiles along the walls may not be straight, thus can have gaps below the skirting although it would be reduced if you are using 2' tiles.
The timber should be properly primed on all sides. Else it will not last..

If you are using timber skirting, then you cannot wash the floor with water. Of course, just mop...

This post has been edited by kelvyn: Jun 28 2011, 05:30 PM

i LOL-ed when i see ur statement...

no details given but a rm20sqft..haha..

how we know what floorboard u using? share us some useful information...

honestly.... i do have my doubts on vinyl flooring previously.... however there is one particular which actually caught my eyes.... which i will be using.... its a tad more expensive than laminated, however it doesnt feel plastic or "cheap".... and because of the interlocking mechanism, the only place water can sip thru is at the corners or nearer to the wall.... the only bad part is however if the moisture is built up underneath.... which i think all kind of floorboards have the same issue.....

There are so many different types of flooring. The price range is great. From Floor Depot alone, they have so many range to suit every house owner's requirements. They have the Chamwood series which they claimed to be termite proof and water proof. Remember seeing them soaking the board in a tank in their showroom..

Then there is also the types of underlay used. Some only use a plastic sheet (cheaper version) and some will use a rubber sheet. Using the rubber sheet will give a cushion effect especially if the area is large.

Yes, i don't like tiles skirting ..very ugly.

I still have all problem abv if i use mdf and pvc skirting rite?

about the same... except for the PVC you can wash the floor with water
I personally have not come across any PVC skirting profile that impress me..