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jinaun
post Sep 13 2009, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(dvlzplayground @ Sep 13 2009, 05:48 PM)
what is intellipark?
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when 8 sec the hdd is idle, the hdd parks its head to save power. and unpark again when there is read/write request, that act if load/unload makes a faint click sound.

if you have SMART reader, you can see the "attribute load/unload cycle" increment by one whenever u hear that click sound.

my 3 days old scorpio scores abt 670 on the counter for that load/unload cycle.. which avg abt 220 per day, which i use onli abt 4-5 hours.

after 1 year, the counter will increase to 80k+ and 5 years will be over 500k

but scorpio has a design of 600k cycles so its not a problem.. but hell its annoying

* but i read the web that the WD GP harddrives have such issue(duno to call this a feature/issue/problem/etc) too.. 8 sec parking.. but if its run 24/7 and especially under linux which poll the hdd over 10-12 sec.. you can have over 200 clicks per hour which will of coz make some people panic coz the load/unload cycle specified for GP is 300K

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post Sep 14 2009, 11:31 AM

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the GP drives are only for desktop right?

im new to this thing. so this 'issue' is the same with scorpio black and blue?

anyway, is there any chance for a 500gb scorpio black before december?
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Just got my MBP 13" last sunday. Pay Rm299 for 4GB hynix chip geh ram upgrade. And DIY 320GB seagate harddisk.. installed Snow..

so far so good... =P
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post Sep 14 2009, 02:46 PM

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Would like to ask where to get the cheapest mac ram in town?
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post Sep 14 2009, 04:36 PM

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I will suggest you to read this thread as a lot of good info there about any kind of upgrade, especially RAM.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/990177
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i still dont quite understand what are the difference some salesman in lowyat offer mer KTA rams instead of KVR and they cost lot more
a 4gb total 2 stick of ddr3 1066mhz hes offering me rm 550 sad.gif
while czone only ask for 480!
but i remember czone staff told me its just compatibility issue that could generate error
other than that performance there isnt any difference
true/false?
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QUOTE(aegis`- @ Sep 14 2009, 10:02 PM)
i still dont quite understand what are the difference some salesman in lowyat offer mer KTA rams instead of KVR and they cost lot more
a 4gb total 2 stick of ddr3 1066mhz hes offering me rm 550 sad.gif
while czone only ask for 480!
but i remember czone staff told me its just compatibility issue that could generate error
other than that performance there isnt any difference
true/false?
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different shops has different prices, some jual banyak untung sikit, others jual sikit untung banyak.. depends on their profit target.

KTA rams as well as other validated/approved ram for apple undergo additional testing/compatibility tests to ensure that it works properly with apple hardwares.

yeah sure you can put in KVR ram and it would still work.. but getting KTA rams give a peace of mind.. smile.gif and possibly avoids any possible compatibility issues that may occur or at least eliminates ram as a possible source of problem during troubleshooting

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Thinking of upgrading my hard disk for my mbp 13.. I think my hard disk is slowing the system down a bit especially when opening 10mb raw image files, or generate thumbnails of it, or basically do anything with raw files on aperture..
I understand that the wd 500gb 5200 is the favourite here but I dont particularly need that much space.. would prefer to have more speed vs space as I have over 1Tb on my desktop. What other brands/speed hdisk that you guys could recommend HD or SSD? Thanks
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QUOTE(vassalle @ Sep 15 2009, 12:09 AM)
Thinking of upgrading my hard disk for my mbp 13.. I think my hard disk is slowing the system down a bit especially when opening 10mb raw image files, or generate thumbnails of it, or basically do anything with raw files on aperture..
I understand that the wd 500gb 5200 is the favourite here but I dont particularly need that much space.. would prefer to have more speed vs space as I have over 1Tb on my desktop. What other brands/speed hdisk that you guys could recommend HD or SSD? Thanks
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SSD is still not really recommended for me. i think a 7200 hd will fit your favor. 10mb raw file is still consider normal =)
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QUOTE(vassalle @ Sep 15 2009, 12:09 AM)
Thinking of upgrading my hard disk for my mbp 13.. I think my hard disk is slowing the system down a bit especially when opening 10mb raw image files, or generate thumbnails of it, or basically do anything with raw files on aperture..
I understand that the wd 500gb 5200 is the favourite here but I dont particularly need that much space.. would prefer to have more speed vs space as I have over 1Tb on my desktop. What other brands/speed hdisk that you guys could recommend HD or SSD? Thanks
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in ur case u need the speed, go with ssd..
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QUOTE(ginolo @ Sep 15 2009, 12:48 AM)
SSD is still not really recommended for me. i think a 7200 hd will fit your favor. 10mb raw file is still consider normal =)
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Yeah.. I do feel that SSD prices are a bit too high for my liking.. however I've been seeing mixed reviews on the wd 320gb black scorpio & seagate hard disk.. Any 7200 hard disk you guys would recommend? thanks
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QUOTE(vassalle @ Sep 15 2009, 05:45 AM)
Yeah.. I do feel that SSD prices are a bit too high for my liking..  however I've been seeing mixed reviews on the wd 320gb black scorpio & seagate hard disk..  Any 7200 hard disk you guys would recommend? thanks
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i can't say much abt seagate*'s but i'm using scorpio black.. and it works terrific on my mbp

*read somewhere abt seagate's compatibility problem with mid09 mbp
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QUOTE(jinaun @ Sep 15 2009, 06:33 AM)
i can't say much abt seagate*'s but i'm using scorpio black.. and it works terrific on my mbp

*read somewhere abt seagate's compatibility problem with mid09 mbp
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Do you experience any of the problems here?

"A light bulb then went off… we started to associate the panics with movement. Then it hit us like 3 tons of bowling balls, the Scorpio has built-in shock protection. The ShockGuard technology that WD employs is interfering with the Macs own head parking technology. We placed another call into Other World and returned the second Scorpio in exchange for the slightly more expensive Seagate Momentus (which does not have built-in shock protection). After installing the Momentus and cloning over the now tired image, we haven’t had a single kernal panic. All that said, if you have a MacBook or MacBook Pro, DO NOT upgrade to the WD Scorpio line of hard drives. They are definitely fine drives, just not fine for MacBook/Pro owners."

http://forums.macworld.com/index.php?showt...&st=0&p=659815&
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QUOTE(vassalle @ Sep 15 2009, 08:52 AM)
Do you experience any of the problems here?

"A light bulb then went off… we started to associate the panics with movement. Then it hit us like 3 tons of bowling balls, the Scorpio has built-in shock protection. The ShockGuard technology that WD employs is interfering with the Macs own head parking technology. We placed another call into Other World and returned the second Scorpio in exchange for the slightly more expensive Seagate Momentus (which does not have built-in shock protection). After installing the Momentus and cloning over the now tired image, we haven’t had a single kernal panic. All that said, if you have a MacBook or MacBook Pro, DO NOT upgrade to the WD Scorpio line of hard drives. They are definitely fine drives, just not fine for MacBook/Pro owners."

http://forums.macworld.com/index.php?showt...&st=0&p=659815&
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i'm using the non-shock protection version aka non free fall sensor which is the WD3200BEKT, i duno whether u can install hdd with free fall sensor and disable the macbook's in build shock sensor or not

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Hi all, saw u all using "special" HD. Wonder the normal seagate 320GB for Rm180 harddisk can be use in MBP 13" ??? izzit the same spec with the harddisk cam with the MBP ??

thanks =)
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QUOTE(vassalle @ Sep 15 2009, 12:09 AM)
Thinking of upgrading my hard disk for my mbp 13.. I think my hard disk is slowing the system down a bit especially when opening 10mb raw image files, or generate thumbnails of it, or basically do anything with raw files on aperture..
I understand that the wd 500gb 5200 is the favourite here but I dont particularly need that much space.. would prefer to have more speed vs space as I have over 1Tb on my desktop. What other brands/speed hdisk that you guys could recommend HD or SSD? Thanks
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I see you might be annoyed with the slowdown caused by automatic generation of previews in Aperture. Check this article out: http://photo.rwboyer.com/2009/01/03/apertu...aging-previews/
Very useful in getting aperture to behave the way you want it to generate previews.
EDIT: be warned, the pictures linked by the thumbnails are NSFW.
Also check out his other aperture guides here: http://photo.rwboyer.com/aperture-guides/ It was very helpful for me in learning how to make full use of Aperture's picture management.


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QUOTE(vassalle @ Sep 15 2009, 08:52 AM)
Do you experience any of the problems here?

"A light bulb then went off… we started to associate the panics with movement. Then it hit us like 3 tons of bowling balls, the Scorpio has built-in shock protection. The ShockGuard technology that WD employs is interfering with the Macs own head parking technology. We placed another call into Other World and returned the second Scorpio in exchange for the slightly more expensive Seagate Momentus (which does not have built-in shock protection). After installing the Momentus and cloning over the now tired image, we haven’t had a single kernal panic. All that said, if you have a MacBook or MacBook Pro, DO NOT upgrade to the WD Scorpio line of hard drives. They are definitely fine drives, just not fine for MacBook/Pro owners."

http://forums.macworld.com/index.php?showt...&st=0&p=659815&
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Similar to jinaun I'm using the 500GB WD Scorpio Blue which doesn't have a motion sensor WD5000BEVT.
EDIT: Only the Scorpio black has an optional motion sensor (WD****BJKT) and it's slightly more expensive than the one without.
On the other hand, if you get a drive with it's own built in motion sensor, you have to disable the Macbook's own sensor (google it).

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Guys, I'm not really good with tech stuff even after reading all these.

I have Scorpio Black WD3200BJKT and Scorpio Blue WD3200BEVT (320GB) now,
which one should I put in my MBP ? Have to disable my MBP's sensor if I want to use Black ?

I thought Black has 7200rpm thats why I get it.
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Hi, i'm currently using the Macbook alluminium 13' i bought early this year.
The specification is 2.4ghz Core 2 duo, with 2X1GB ddr3 1067 Mhz ram.
I'm thinking to upgrade it to 4GB (2x2GB).
Can i use 2x2GB ddr3 1066 Mhz ram instead of using 2x2gb ddr3 1067 Mhz ram?
Is there any different between ddr3 1066 Mhz and ddr3 1067 Mhz?

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post Sep 16 2009, 11:42 PM

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i believe as long it has standard jedec spd settings of 7-7-7 at 1066, it should work fine

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Hi guys, new here...

Just want to ask, what kind of enviroment is a non-static enviroment?
I hear these words everytime when it comes to upgrading computer rams....

Thanks smile.gif

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