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RabonnProxittfts
post Jan 28 2010, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(wei @ Jan 28 2010, 10:31 AM)
Well, always connect to charger when you do software update.

When you boot from DVD1 do not do erase install. As soon as you selected language and you can see the Apple bar on top. Go to Utilities > Disk Utility.

Select your harddisk on left then select "Repair Permission" on bottom.

If this doesn't recover, you have to do a data recovery from another machine then re-install Mac OSX.

Why no backup?
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aiya,dun hantam me la boss sweat.gif

i admit it was my mistake for not using the adapter and there's a important files on my desktop
as i juz received it recently,forgot to back up sad.gif

i'll try the dvd,will update u soon,thanks man!!


Added on January 28, 2010, 12:08 pm
QUOTE(wei @ Jan 28 2010, 10:31 AM)
Well, always connect to charger when you do software update.

When you boot from DVD1 do not do erase install. As soon as you selected language and you can see the Apple bar on top. Go to Utilities > Disk Utility.

Select your harddisk on left then select "Repair Permission" on bottom.

If this doesn't recover, you have to do a data recovery from another machine then re-install Mac OSX.

Why no backup?
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i have tried the "Repair Permission", but it also doesnt work sad.gif

how to make a data recovery form another machine? do i have to take out the harddisk?
can i still get back my files if i use "Archive & Install" features?

This post has been edited by RabonnProxittfts: Jan 28 2010, 12:08 PM
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post Jan 28 2010, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(RabonnProxittfts @ Jan 28 2010, 10:46 AM)
aiya,dun hantam me la boss sweat.gif

i admit it was my mistake for not using the adapter and there's a important files on my desktop
as i juz received it recently,forgot to back up sad.gif

i'll try the dvd,will update u soon,thanks man!!


Added on January 28, 2010, 12:08 pm
i have tried the "Repair Permission", but it also doesnt work  sad.gif

how to make a data recovery form another machine? do i have to take out the harddisk?
can i still get back my files if i use "Archive & Install" features?
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im assuming u're using the new macbook with no firewire, so yeah u need to take out the harddisk. put it in a sata-to-usb casing, n copy ur files to another computer 1st.

"achieve & install" wont delete ur files, but ur problem might wont go away too. i guess it's worth a try, but do what i said in the above paragraph first to be safe.

n this time remember to keep the power plug on. there's a battery charge indicator up there, pay attention to it.

about backup, even if u dont have another hard disk to backup to, juz copying over important files on a thumbdrive would suffice. as long as u have a copy of ur data. for data that u wont need to change/edit, burn them on DVDs. those are cheap
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post Jan 28 2010, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(RabonnProxittfts @ Jan 28 2010, 10:46 AM)
aiya,dun hantam me la boss sweat.gif

i admit it was my mistake for not using the adapter and there's a important files on my desktop
as i juz received it recently,forgot to back up sad.gif

i'll try the dvd,will update u soon,thanks man!!


Added on January 28, 2010, 12:08 pm
i have tried the "Repair Permission", but it also doesnt work  sad.gif

how to make a data recovery form another machine? do i have to take out the harddisk?
can i still get back my files if i use "Archive & Install" features?
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OK few options for you:
a) Get an external USB drive and install Mac OSX into it. Once done, boot from the USB and recover files from your problematic HDD. (Easiest DIY)
b) Remove the internal HDD and recover files from another Mac with casing. PC need software to read Mac formatted drive. (Depends on your Mac model, some are harder to reach HDD).
c) Just send to service. (You have to pay)
Kai1492
post Feb 1 2010, 04:27 PM

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uhh..guys need help...im not sure where to ask..but this seems like a good enough place...i accidentally dropped my macbook pro unibody...now the aluminium body has lots of scratches...any recomended scratch removers? icon_question.gif icon_question.gif icon_question.gif
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post Feb 1 2010, 06:28 PM

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Metal body scratches are very hard/ can't be removed.

Unless you know some good car/hardware guy that willing to help you do sand blasting.

You also have to take all your MacBook component out first, then put them back.
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post Feb 3 2010, 11:24 PM

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I have some question, need clarification from pros here

1) Let say if you installed windows xp using virtual machines such as VMware Fusion 3 on the mac, can it support NTFS file system?

2)If I just bought a external HDD, should i reformat it first using the apple disk utilities to FAT32 before using? What are the capacity limit in reformatting it?

3)Let say i wanna reformat my hdd to fat32 and wanna work with my windows xp in another machine, is it just reformat or have to set the MBR in the disk utility.app?

4)Can I partitioned my external hdd to 2 parts? one is fat32 and one is hps+; and still useable in both windows and mac platforms??

I hope someone can clarify this to me.. my curiosity been bugging me...

Thanks in advance

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post Feb 3 2010, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(uberific @ Feb 3 2010, 11:24 PM)
I have some question, need clarification from pros here

1) Let say if you installed windows xp using virtual machines such as VMware Fusion 3 on the mac, can it support NTFS file system?

2)If I just bought a external HDD, should i reformat it first using the apple disk utilities to FAT32 before using? What are the capacity limit in reformatting it?

3)Let say i wanna reformat my hdd to fat32 and wanna work with my windows xp in another machine, is it just reformat or have to set the MBR in the disk utility.app?

4)Can I partitioned my external hdd to 2 parts? one is fat32 and one is hps+; and still useable in both windows and mac platforms??

I hope someone can clarify this to me.. my curiosity been bugging me...

Thanks in advance
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1) if i remember correctly, yes
2) yeap format to fat32 1st. i dont think got capacity limit. the limit of fat32 format is u cant store a single file that's bigger than 4gb
3) haa good question, im not sure myself. last time i accidentally format as MBR, it wont show up on my frens PC. it did when i changed to GUID. but then when i plug the same drive on my sis PC, it wont show up until i format to MBR. im confused too sad.gif
4) can

guys i got serious question. my friend's MBP got something stuck in her DVD drive, n since im not around i told her to just send to machines (not sure where,forgot to ask). the MBP is running fine la, no software problems or whatsoever, juz the dvd drive got something stuck inside. not a big problem.

but after they 'repaired' it, turns out that they formatted the hdd. i have no idea why. all her data is gone now. her works, photos (she juz came back from a UK trip..now all photos gone) all gone. this is very stupid of them. is there any way to ask for compensation? i think they absolutely have no right to format it...especially when the problem was strictly hardware. i've worked at an apple reseller before and we always create a backup for customer if we had to reformat the hdd. but this they didnt even bother to, didnt even tell my friend they're gonna format it. and the worse thing is, they dont even have to but they did anyway. this is insane.

hope u guys can help me out here

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post Feb 4 2010, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(dvlzplayground @ Feb 3 2010, 11:37 PM)
1) if i remember correctly, yes
2) yeap format to fat32 1st. i dont think got capacity limit. the limit of fat32 format is u cant store a single file that's bigger than 4gb
3) haa good question, im not sure myself. last time i accidentally format as MBR, it wont show up on my frens PC. it did when i changed to GUID. but then when i plug the same drive on my sis PC, it wont show up until i format to MBR. im confused too sad.gif
4) can

referring to No 1:
Means that the macbook can detect nfts and able to R/W in the windows virtual machine???
I have to clarify these things because plan to use muti platform.. need more pro or experienced apple user to clarify this for me..... sad.gif

referring to No 3:
anyone can help on this???????

referring to No 4:
But if i format the two partitioned, which one should i set as primary?? fat32 or hfc+??? in order to use in both platforms? And if i format into 2... which one will the windows detects and which will dont??


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post Feb 4 2010, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(wei @ Feb 1 2010, 06:28 PM)
Metal body scratches are very hard/ can't be removed.

Unless you know some good car/hardware guy that willing to help you do sand blasting.

You also have to take all your MacBook component out first, then put them back.
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u sure? sandblasting?wont that scratch it even more? blink.gif
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post Feb 4 2010, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(dvlzplayground @ Feb 3 2010, 11:37 PM)
guys i got serious question. my friend's MBP got something stuck in her DVD drive, n since im not around i told her to just send to machines (not sure where,forgot to ask). the MBP is running fine la, no software problems or whatsoever, juz the dvd drive got something stuck inside. not a big problem.

but after they 'repaired' it, turns out that they formatted the hdd. i have no idea why. all her data is gone now. her works, photos (she juz came back from a UK trip..now all photos gone) all gone. this is very stupid of them. is there any way to ask for compensation? i think they absolutely have no right to format it...especially when the problem was strictly hardware. i've worked at an apple reseller before and we always create a backup for customer if we had to reformat the hdd. but this they didnt even bother to, didnt even tell my friend they're gonna format it. and the worse thing is, they dont even have to but they did anyway. this is insane.

hope u guys can help me out here
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I bet your friend never bothered to read the terms.

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Why no backup??? Even gold status Apple Service Center will format your drive without prior notice if needed.


QUOTE(uberific @ Feb 4 2010, 09:07 AM)
referring to No 1:
Means that the macbook can detect nfts and able to R/W in the windows virtual machine???
I have to clarify these things because plan to use muti platform.. need more pro or experienced apple user to clarify this for me..... sad.gif

referring to No 3:
anyone can help on this???????

referring to No 4:
But if i format the two partitioned, which one should i set as primary?? fat32 or hfc+??? in order to use in both platforms? And if i format into 2... which one will the windows detects and which will dont??
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1. You still need to install software like Paragon NTFS to gain full read & write in Mac OS IMNM.

3. Why not just format it in PC to FAT32, simple.

4. To have hybrid partition is risky, there are report that the partition might just gone unrecognise. Read the full article:
http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?sto...030613121738812
Scroll down to last comment, that works for me.


QUOTE(Kai1492 @ Feb 4 2010, 10:16 AM)
u sure? sandblasting?wont that scratch it even more? blink.gif
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If I'm not sure I won't say it, unlike other member who simply can't resist to reply to almost single topic here.
Sandblast come in many grade, the more rough grade are used to cast shape or remove tough industrial stain. Fine grade can use to create matte finishing surface.
And I don't mean sandpaper. Please read more about finishing sandblasting. But I did not see any local company provide such service. So you better just live with your own mistake.

This post has been edited by wei: Feb 4 2010, 10:51 AM
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post Feb 4 2010, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(wei @ Feb 4 2010, 10:48 AM)
1. You still need to install software like Paragon NTFS to gain full read & write in Mac OS IMNM.

3. Why not just format it in PC to FAT32, simple.

4. To have hybrid partition is risky, there are report that the partition might just gone unrecognise. Read the full article:
http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?sto...030613121738812
Scroll down to last comment, that works for me.
Referring to No 1:
hmm ok... wads 'IMNM'???

Referring to No3:
Cant i format fat32 from mac itself?? will it still work? if i format from the disk utility.app, do it need to change the partition map scheme???

Referring to No 4:
If its risky.. means use a full external hdd as hfc+ and a 16gb pendrive as FAT32 is the better option???
Since i only use it to transfer files like songs, images, and assignment files from both plaforms....


And if i wanna use hfc+.. should i use non journaled or journaled? since i only use as storage device??????

This post has been edited by uberific: Feb 4 2010, 01:54 PM
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post Feb 4 2010, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(uberific @ Feb 4 2010, 01:44 PM)
Referring to No 1:
hmm ok... wads 'IMNM'???

Referring to No3:
Cant i format fat32 from mac itself?? will it still work? if i format from the disk utility.app, do it need to change the partition map scheme???

Referring to No 4:
If its risky.. means use a full external hdd as hfc+ and a 16gb pendrive as FAT32 is the better option???
Since i only use it to transfer files like songs, images, and assignment files from both plaforms....


And if i wanna use hfc+.. should i use non journaled or journaled? since i only use as storage device??????
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I meant to say if im not mistaken. "IIANM".

I can't understand why ppl like to dig for issue. The reason I suggest you to do it in PC is so that you wont need to bother with partition map and there no need further questioning.

I'm not here to tell you what to do, use your own judgement on what is best for yourself.

I always use journaled. Don't ask me why, ask google and read about tones of articles ppl have took time writing ok?
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post Feb 4 2010, 05:31 PM

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hmm ok thanks for the information
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QUOTE(wei @ Feb 4 2010, 10:48 AM)
I bet your friend never bothered to read the terms.

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that's the point... "should it be necessary"
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post Feb 4 2010, 11:26 PM

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And who is it that decide it's necessary or not?
Think again.
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post Feb 5 2010, 12:01 AM

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something stuck in dvd drive need to reformat?

car headlight broken, need to change engine?
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post Feb 5 2010, 12:21 AM

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Why don't you speak to the reseller this way and see what is their respond. Making noise in forum won't make your friend's file magically recovered.
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post Feb 5 2010, 10:39 AM

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i know, i asked here wondering if anyone experienced the same thing n managed to get some sort of compensation. i nvr said 'please find the files for me' or anything cuz that'd be stupid dont u think?
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This gonna be my last reply of your issue. Your original question:
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is there any way to ask for compensation?


Not "Did anyone manage to get compensation on similar case".

Also the rest of your post is ranting about them formatting the drive. So I think my reply valid to say that they've covered themselves on the fine print. And you think yours is the first case?
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if someone answers yes to my ques, automatically its a yes to ur ques

i think "yes there is a way" = "yes i managed to get compensation on similar case"

anyway, point taken. thx

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