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candicelkm
post Jun 13 2009, 06:04 PM

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hi guys! i am planning to start my OBU but still undecided on which topic to choose. I m planning to do it in sunway but have not paid the fees yet coz Mr. Goh is no more available. I m planning to get either Dinesh, Joyce or Geetha since they are the only ones available. Plz give me some advise. Thx!
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post Dec 13 2009, 01:50 AM

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QUOTE(yyteik @ Dec 9 2009, 02:44 PM)
any study material for current issue for question 4 in P2?
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QUOTE(yyteik @ Dec 10 2009, 05:26 PM)
can park on top of hill inside USCI.. parking fee i think is RM2...
btw... i am still looking for study text for current issue in P2.. question 4..
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Should be credit crunch, dear...all the best!
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post Dec 13 2009, 06:42 PM

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To my cent, better not rely too much on tips for p1...read the text and articles...
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post Dec 14 2009, 11:27 PM

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My last paper too!!! ARR!!! P2 I WAN KILL U!!!!
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post Dec 16 2009, 02:22 AM

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QUOTE(carlosandy @ Dec 15 2009, 02:37 PM)
Who ask you to waste a lot of time in easiest one? Easiest must using less time to finish it, please control your time.

Who tell you examiner going to be frustrated when he sees u doing it here and there? There is no exam rules saying student must start Q1 as 1st Question or must finish Section A & baru to Section B. Hello, in your exam your can start with any question. Now is not SPM exam, you must have good planning for do the question.

I don't know what your lecturer tell u for exam technique, but majority of my lecturer also ask me to start with easiest question and DO NOT START WITH LONG QUESTION. 

As you just done mistake in P1, using 2 hours for Q1. Means that your time mgmt really not good. It was prove that Q1 need more time to do. It is better start with easiet q and finish it ASAP, go to Q1 in 2nd.

Btw, this is only my experience during I take ACCA, doesn't mean my tech is suitable for all student. ALWAY REMEMBER TIME MGMT IS IMPORTANT
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Hi, this is just my experience in attempting many P level papers. Went we first start with the question, we tends to have a fresher mind. So when we open the paper during the 15 minutes analytical time, it is the best to read the all the requirements first and write down whatever u have memorize. This is not suppose to exceed 5 minutes. Then it is best to spent the 10 minutes reading the 1st long question and attempting it. After you have done the long questions in section A, normally would have left 1 hour 15 minutes or lesser for the 2 question in section B. As section B is mostly theory questions/ test of knowledge or easier question, it is the best to finish it within time frame by working it out fast as you will feel the time pressure. If u are unable to finish some sections (a,b,c...) it only carries little marks.

Whereas if you attempt easy questions in section B 1st, you tends to left with 1 hour 15 minutes approximately for it. Reading the long question would take up approximately 15 minutes and you will only be left with 1 hour to do it. If you start with question 1, no doubt you can use the analytical time to read the long question. But if you start with section B, you tends to get too comfortable with the question and took more time for it. Most of the time, the first question would take up more time then the rest of it. Moreover, sections (a,b,c...) in question 1 tends to carry more marks. So if you do it the last, you tends to have the risk of not doing one section which would approximately contain 6-9 marks. Moreover, do not forget that question 1 carries professional marks as well.

this is just my opinion about it, you are free to follow your lecturer's way as different student and lecturers have their own different approach. Please do not feel offended by my opinion ya biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Limjimmy @ Dec 15 2009, 07:04 PM)
Some question need to ask anyone.
If not going for exam, should any problem when do OBU??
How about if fail the subject, how to calculate the OBU grade??
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in order to do OBU, u need to complete all the F level paper. You can take it immediately after you took F9 as long as you have opted OBU in your ACCA account and completed the ethical module. The OBU grade is depending on the average marks of your F level paper. The marks allocation in order to get 1st class, second upper or second lower can be found on the ACCA website. No matter if you fail a subject before, it is okay, they will only calculate the marks of your pass paper. As long as you got an average marks of 68 and above you can get your 1st class no matter u get A, B or C in your project. Hope this will help you smile.gif


QUOTE(karhoe @ Dec 15 2009, 07:49 PM)
Why you guys even want to argue about which questions to start first? Different people are comfortable with their own technique, let it be then.


Added on December 15, 2009, 7:50 pm

Yes, I heard about that, it's because student doing the easier questions first, tend to write too much, sometimes irrelevant (rubbish) answers, and when they reach the difficult questions, time has run short, and panic sets in.
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yar! I agree with you biggrin.gif
really don't feel comfortable when you have not done the difficult one 1st.
Like chinese saying, bitter 1st then later sweet ritte?

QUOTE(ccjj1234 @ Dec 15 2009, 09:42 PM)
Just wonder,what do u think today 's p2? My friendsj told me Ms Memon spotting question is not accurately... ohmy.gif
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She spotted disposal for groups which really came out 35+6 marks. IAS 21 also came out but only minor adjustment in the groups account. As for the other highly emphasized areas such as IFRS2, IAS12...all no come out. She also spot SOCI instead of SOFP for the format of groups to come out but didn't. But she did a lot of question on SOFP format also, so it is okay. Before exam, she did give a list of IAS which she asked us to emphasis on. Many of those study in full and detail did come out. Those of low emphasis i ignored it and it really didn't come out. In conclusion, she covered all the important topic and spot a few that if highly likely so that student study extra for it.

QUOTE(ccjj1234 @ Dec 15 2009, 10:20 PM)
To correct, above is all my friend's view... not mine.... I still think Ms Menon is pretty good !!!
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Menon is good...because she is so so scary...the only thing that motivate me to study P2 and to pass it fast is so that i do not need to sit in her class again. She is the only lecturer i had every scared of in my life...Taking P2 is the worst nightmare and i do not wish to repeat it...
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post Dec 16 2009, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(carlosandy @ Dec 16 2009, 09:10 AM)
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Haha, if start with the difficult question, then student got chance for lost a lot of marks in easy question. Always remember easy question are more easy to earn marks compare with difficult question. As I know a lot of student normally done well for earlier question and bad in last question.

So always ask yourself how many mark can earn for 1st Q? So if u start with the Q1 50m, can you gurantee can earn 35m to 40m? If can, then go ahead. Fot me, if start with easiest question, I can earn at least 20m from 25m.

In P level, student advise to plan the time in all question, must learn "let go". For eg, the max time for 50m Q1 is 1 1/2 hours, once the time over, student should go to other question, don't care about can finish or not.

Again, please read careful for my opinion. I never saying should answer Q1 in last, but only saying START 1 EASY QUESTION IN SEC B, FOLLOW BY Q1, LAST ONE IS ANOTHER Q IN SEC B. For me, do 50m Q1 in Second Question is better.


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In your exam, there is no time for you for "thinking" no matter you answer Sec A or Sec B 1st.
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For my opinion, i do not go against you for saying doing the easy question 1st. But question 1 is a must to attempt it first as you can utilize the analytical time to read the question. In exam, if you do easy question in section B first which is tends to be easier and shorter question, you would not require to use the analytical time which do not permits you to write on the answer script. It would be such a waste. My point is, after you finish question 1 in section A, only then do section B by choosing easy question to do 1st, it is better.

Moreover, if you do question in random manner (1,3,2, or 3,1,2) which i had not tried before, I do not know if it is permitted, even so, don't you think it would slightly irritate the marker? Try consider the age and number of scripts they would be marking. They receive money on per script they mark. Don't you think they would wan to mark fast in order to be able to mark more paper within the time stipulated than spending time locating which and where is your answer located? Remember this, to the marker, it is not their matter whether you fail or pass. The way you present your answer (language, handwriting...) is also important as if the marker do not understand, they will just fail you.

This is just a discussion, no offense ya smile.gif but the way u use the capital letter is quite scary. sad.gif Anyways, may i know which tuition provider you are under?
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post Dec 16 2009, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(cheekiyaya @ Dec 16 2009, 12:04 PM)
ROFL~! Hahaha....I shocked at first with carlosandy's reply, but haha...she's just trying to express herself.  laugh.gif Yeah, irritates the marker...That was what I wanted to say in the earlier post, but I just didn't know how to put it into a proper sentence.  biggrin.gif
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yar, now they change all core paper to online marking scheme. The markers will be all over the world. They can download the paper to mark it. I wonder how those elderly feel sitting in front of the computer to mark the paper... hmm.gif
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post Dec 16 2009, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(cheekiyaya @ Dec 16 2009, 12:29 PM)
Fingers crossed for P3 today! T___T  shakehead.gif
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Good luck! i m done with P3 smile.gif

QUOTE(crystal123 @ Dec 16 2009, 12:30 PM)
anyone can recommend lecturer for F9, P1,P2,and P3?
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lecturers in sunway is quite good. I recommend menon from sunway for P2. Although sunway is more expensive but they do provide u sufficient class and better understanding for P2. P1 and P3 is mostly theory and very subjective. U can survey around and not necessary from sunway if you do not wish to pay such expensive fees. F9...i not sure where is good lo. R u planning to take all the following 4 paper next sem?
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post Dec 17 2009, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(carlosandy @ Dec 16 2009, 01:22 PM)
First of all, ACCA is not SPM. There is no rule saying student can't do the question in random manner. The most important was student must write the question number on top. Hello, this is not SPM exam where got 20 question, but 1 script only round 3 - 4 question. Since you so worry about this type of problem, means that your thinking still in SPM level.

FYI, I study under KSA and MCO for most of the paper and already graduate in Dec 08.
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LOL! I dun understand u really, just a discussion you will go around calling ppl studing ACCA thinking at SPM level. We have our own method of answering, not necessarily to follow what u say in accordance. This is also a method recommended by many prestigious lecturer. If so, u would be calling all of them at SPM level and only u and the ppl who follow u at ACCA level? Ur attitude is really at primary school level. tongue.gif
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post Dec 17 2009, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(carlosandy @ Dec 17 2009, 02:19 PM)
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May be you misundertand my word.

I'm not talking your method is SPM level. Just saying if worry this problem (answer question in random manner), means that your thinking in SPM level, cos normally SPM student worry this type of problem. Even people study in diploma also know can answer question in random manner.
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old pop,
I did not misunderstand your word and understand it clearly. I am really offended as u go around calling ppl whom do not like working question on Q1 first thinking in SPM level. Dun be so stubborn and going around degrading ppl. This is just a discussion and i refuse to find fault around here. There is an article written by examiner (forgotten which sitting) 'it is best to attempt questions in order than spending time thinking which question to be attempting 1st during the examination.' Are u calling the examiner thinking at SPM level as well?

Method of answering differs during the exam. I have no doubt that i would have done your method if i think Q1 is an impossible question. But if i feel Q1 is durable, i would have allocate sufficient time for it. No more further arguments about this alright? It is getting on my nerves the way u express yourself.

QUOTE(fastandfurious @ Dec 17 2009, 03:18 PM)
I feel you . lol
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Yes, I do hate stubborn and thick minded ppl.

This post has been edited by candicelkm: Dec 17 2009, 08:02 PM
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post Dec 18 2009, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(jonwei @ Dec 17 2009, 08:59 PM)
lets say i left only F4.......can i take F4 together with P essential papers in 1 exam?
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yes u can. As long as u r taking few last papers in F level u can take it with P papers. But u cannot skip like for eg, if u left with F4 and F7, u cannot take F4 and P1 only by skipping F7. U must take F4, F7 and P1 all at once. But FYI, as F5 and P1 is on the same exam date, u cannot take it together. Hope this would help u smile.gif

QUOTE(carlosandy @ Dec 17 2009, 10:09 PM)
Hello girls, do you have any problem or not? I already explain to you I never said your method is SPM level, I never said "whom do not like working question on Q1 first thinking in SPM level". Just saying "if worry ANSWER QUESTION IN RANDOM MANNER IS PROBLEM, means that your thinking in SPM level, cos normally SPM student worry this type of problem. Even people study in diploma also know can answer question in random manner."

If you still want to argue, I have no power to talk any more. That's no point to argue anymore. If you are not happy, PLEASE DO NOT REPLY MY POST ANYMORE IN FUTURE.

Small small thing also want to play post war, now ur attitude is really at Kindergarten level.
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Well, i wonder who is the one whom overreacted in the previous posts first.
Fine if u call me Kindergarten level in terms of attitude coz i admit I am childish arguing with u over this matter but just can't help it. Okay, no more arguments. I need to respect elderly since u are at menopause stage. I promise no more replying in ur post. Save ur breath.

QUOTE(karhoe @ Dec 17 2009, 10:37 PM)
Comeon guys, listen to whatever carlonsandy said, he is the best  thumbup.gif You all still at kindergarten only  tongue.gif
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Whatever. I don't call ppl best for nothing unless they really deserve my respect.
karhoe rite? i think i know u...
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post Dec 19 2009, 01:27 AM

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[quote=jonwei,Dec 18 2009, 03:47 PM]
[quote=candicelkm,Dec 18 2009, 01:16 AM]
yes u can. As long as u r taking few last papers in F level u can take it with P papers. But u cannot skip like for eg, if u left with F4 and F7, u cannot take F4 and P1 only by skipping F7. U must take F4, F7 and P1 all at once. But FYI, as F5 and P1 is on the same exam date, u cannot take it together. Hope this would help u smile.gif

wat happens if (lets say) i fail F4 and pass P1?
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Then next sem u must take F4, P2 P3 etc etc...
U cannot take P2 and P3 by skipping F4. The same apply for optional papers. U must first complete the core papers (P1, P2 and P3).
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QUOTE(Jessicacwp @ Dec 19 2009, 06:39 PM)
newbie question :

my friend is going to take f8 and f9 this sitting, planning to take 1 more paper.
can she take P2 first, instead of take P1 and P3?
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can if she is only left with f8 and f9 in the fundamental level. But i recommend her to take f8, f9 and p1 instead of p2 as p1 and f8 do have some topic in common. If she is to take p2, she must be a very hardworking student as p2's syllabus is wide. Taking 1 p2 is as if taking 2 papers, moreover, according to miss menon, the standard in next sem is being revised, so many stuff she study from f7 may not be applicable or more stuff will need to be study again. Furthermore, P2 requires knowledge form P1 and F9 as well. It is better for her to finish those papers before proceeding to P2 unless she is really confident that she can deal with it. smile.gif

QUOTE(fastandfurious @ Dec 19 2009, 06:56 PM)
Can. Either p1, p2 , p3 or all of them or any combination of two including F8 and F9. (but max 4 subj) haha. btw, i have a Q. Can I take more than 2 optional papers? Fail 1 still can graduate~ lol
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Can, but i think u will have problem paying it online when u are to select the papers. tongue.gif
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post Dec 22 2009, 04:56 AM

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QUOTE(fastandfurious @ Dec 21 2009, 02:36 PM)
Menon's class is always full one lo. There's this waiting list she always mentioned about for students who want to come in to her class but can't coz full already. I think priority will be given to existing Sunway students and people who register early though.
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Not really...Many students taking P2 in sunway are not existing sunway student. Menon says she is uncomfortable teaching students in P2 that are exempted from F7 cause she feels that they do not have sufficient basis. Moreover, she and Shanta (once her student) have their own style of teaching and notes for both F7 and P2 which she worries students whom from other colleges are unable to get comfortable with. Well, can give it a try though if u manage to squeeze into her class. I heard that she is giving additional classes for P2 students whom exempted from F7 or from other colleges.

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