Jul 6 2009, 01:03 PM
QUOTE(fastandfurious @ Jul 6 2009, 03:10 AM)
Hmm, I took F8 under Ms Kiran. She is one lecturer who will force the class to speak up and voice out opinions. If you don't then she'll start complaining. She will also give handouts for you to do questions.. sometimes give you homework and actually check to see whether you've done it or not. Pretty much like a strict secondary school teacher. Most of my friends including myself don't really like her because she kept nagging about how we don't give responses in class. Some even complained that her classes are boring. For me I actually find her way of teaching is quite effective. She makes you think a lot. Give you pressure and force you to write out the answers. MAybe coz I like to be spoon-fed lol. Hmm, I'm actually just an average student so I think relying on her to pass is not a problem unless you're being lazy. I've had a friend who is quite lazy, easy going and hates audit but he passed with 6X marks under Kiran and he told me it's because of her forcing us to write out the answers very often in class. Sometimes you might hate the methodologies certain lecturers use but in the end it's the results that matters. If you don't like pressure and don't like to be forced and treated like kids, don't go for her class. If you like to be spoon-fed and willing to work hard with her, go for it.
Btw, I'm a Sunway Coll student as well. I did CAT,part 2 and now part 3 all under Sunway. You'll feel like you're back in your secondary school when you're at Sunway College. They have had a lot of prize winners etc and they encourage you to outdo & maintain their reputation. In a sense you will feel that you want to be a part of this college, either riding on its reputation or contributing to it. The environment to study is good, it's easy to get food(there are a few restaurants nearby- walking distance), there is a shuttle bus now giving you a free ride to Sunway Pyramid every 20-30minutes & there is a hostel for students who come from faraway places. So imagine after classes, you can just hang out with your friends pretty easily either simply going to eat or go to Sunway Pyramid for a movie. It's a mini campus. When you're involved in societies and clubs it's harder to leave right? There are lot more going on besides the normal go-classes-grind-and-come-back-home kind of thing.
As for Kasturi College which I've been to for p3 IRC, I find that the studying environment cannot be compared with that of Sunway College. The college is just actually a building. When I first reached there I felt like I was attending my SPM biology/history/whatever tuition. Brings back old memories, lol. Just a place to study and then ciao back home. You know like when you attend extra classes at Kasturi for Sejarah or BM or BI whatever in addition to your normal classes in secondary school? It's just a place for you to attend lectures and then go back home (of coz there are lot of food you can try out & shop at petaling street but let's not go there). Just take for example they let you pay separately according to Term 1, Term 2 and IRC. The more subjects you take the more discounts you get, if you recommend ur frens to go there u get some discounts further, you get even more discount if you're an Ex-students all these kind of marketing strategies. You really can change college easily. Just pay for term 1 and if you don't like it, go to another college n pay for term 2 instead. I believe the same goes for McOrange/kolej bandar etc. *not sure about Segi &Inti though. You don't get these kind of privileges at Sunway though.
But I'm here because I want to seek good lecturers. heh. Be it at kasturi/mcorange/segi/inti/capalang college. At the end of the day I know If I pass a hard paper it's not because of the college. It's because of the lecturer who guided me and my own efforts. Using colleges as a basis of comparison for students' performance seem inappropriate. There might be some correlation, but not a perfect indicator & it is absolutely foolish to debate which college is better. It's all about personal preference. Like how I like milk and you don't.
This is one of the most detailed explanation I get from a sunway student & I also wished to share some expression here.Btw, I'm a Sunway Coll student as well. I did CAT,part 2 and now part 3 all under Sunway. You'll feel like you're back in your secondary school when you're at Sunway College. They have had a lot of prize winners etc and they encourage you to outdo & maintain their reputation. In a sense you will feel that you want to be a part of this college, either riding on its reputation or contributing to it. The environment to study is good, it's easy to get food(there are a few restaurants nearby- walking distance), there is a shuttle bus now giving you a free ride to Sunway Pyramid every 20-30minutes & there is a hostel for students who come from faraway places. So imagine after classes, you can just hang out with your friends pretty easily either simply going to eat or go to Sunway Pyramid for a movie. It's a mini campus. When you're involved in societies and clubs it's harder to leave right? There are lot more going on besides the normal go-classes-grind-and-come-back-home kind of thing.
As for Kasturi College which I've been to for p3 IRC, I find that the studying environment cannot be compared with that of Sunway College. The college is just actually a building. When I first reached there I felt like I was attending my SPM biology/history/whatever tuition. Brings back old memories, lol. Just a place to study and then ciao back home. You know like when you attend extra classes at Kasturi for Sejarah or BM or BI whatever in addition to your normal classes in secondary school? It's just a place for you to attend lectures and then go back home (of coz there are lot of food you can try out & shop at petaling street but let's not go there). Just take for example they let you pay separately according to Term 1, Term 2 and IRC. The more subjects you take the more discounts you get, if you recommend ur frens to go there u get some discounts further, you get even more discount if you're an Ex-students all these kind of marketing strategies. You really can change college easily. Just pay for term 1 and if you don't like it, go to another college n pay for term 2 instead. I believe the same goes for McOrange/kolej bandar etc. *not sure about Segi &Inti though. You don't get these kind of privileges at Sunway though.
But I'm here because I want to seek good lecturers. heh. Be it at kasturi/mcorange/segi/inti/capalang college. At the end of the day I know If I pass a hard paper it's not because of the college. It's because of the lecturer who guided me and my own efforts. Using colleges as a basis of comparison for students' performance seem inappropriate. There might be some correlation, but not a perfect indicator & it is absolutely foolish to debate which college is better. It's all about personal preference. Like how I like milk and you don't.
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I held from a premier school that produce hundred of straight A's for SPM & I know exactly what you mean by the constant drilling & practice. Scoring straight A's in all my public exam, I was raised in an environment which hardwork & commitment are the ultimate characteristics.
However after a stint at KL acca centres I realised their environment while its not perfect but it serves a good foundation for those wish to study on their own perseverance. This gives them time to practice self discipline & independence which is exactly expected from companies the moment graduates start to work. I like the philosophy of voluntary learning since its the exact nature of how "working environment" operates these days.
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This is the only area I could not agree more. ACCA is a very lonely life & unless you are with right friends, possiblity of remaining together is very slim. In my CAT batch of > 50 only 1 or 2 students are there with me. 90% of my friends all all different college are few years older than me. It is difficult to make friends in KL with "asian attitude" of waiting to be called first. So i went to "Western mode" something I picked up from my church activities skills which most of time I take the first initiative to greet them first. Surprisingly its very easy after that even they are older than me. Thats how I picked up some friends whom are working in PWC, EY, KPMG & BDO.
However I will debate on place of attractions. If you want high class areas Bukit Bintang is just 2 or 3 LRT stations away & there is plenty of economic & tasty foods at Petaling Street & Jalan Alor. Where do you find all those Japanese buffets that I always ventured with my friends in sunway ? You have Pavillion, Times Square & KLCC for movies compared to Sunway all within 10 minutes travel.
3rd para :
Everyone knows how criticial I am to KSA so enough on that area for now.
4rd para :
I have always preach on over reliance on lecturers for study materials.
I have seen some students that over rely on their lecturers to such an extent they believe 100% in lecturer spot areas.
I am borned a rebel & I always go disagree with the lecturer view on many things. As a result when I prepare my own notes, I prepare them in my own language to suit my own style. Just to make it more interesting & easier to read I computerised my notes into diagrams & charts. I have shown these to Haneef, Chin Ann, Parmindar & Daniel Ho & they are very supportive of me doing this. When I mentioned to them at the end of the class that I will not take their spots too seriously all of them encouraged me to do so.
In terms of lecturers, you need to seek the best to learn from the best. However you should also show some dedication & hardwork as well.
There is no point wielding the best gun in the world without the ammunitions & magazines to support it.
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, lecturers are over stressed from travelling. just visit mr goh's room, he is usually packed with OBU students or acca studnets needing his help. productivity rate definitely suffers. 
.Since you say they merely delver knowledge. we can get it from the manuals, can't we? I am sure what Karhoe meant that we need to work a lot ourselves. I agree. But wouldn't it be better if there are techniques to use that are effective like Mr andrew's short cuts taught in class or Mr Manwaring "Bluff notes"? i think i get convince my parents to let me go Inti college or Taylors college. they are also in education for decades. sure got 'liao'. an option certainly.
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