Came in from sunway a levels, doing F1-4 now. i know what u mean but on the other hand ACCA is not that exp to begin with so fee difference is not that big a deal. me thinks

lol , how " big " is subjective , actually u can save thousands lol.
one thing is some ppl from outstation can have a complete to be at sunway, accomodation + study + entertainment lol .

if KL , u can ask some seniors here ,about the LRT and stuff ; sunway is simpler since they have hostels.

F4 is memory work. You need to put in some effort to memorize some sections and cases. You can't exactly bluff your way through without the sections and case law. All the best yo!

Yeap, the thousands of premium come in form of better study environment, conducive classes, facilities, additional classes, job placements, student services, and so on.

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Added on January 26, 2010, 1:00 amWithout doubt, F4 is the only paper which really, the only way to score is to memorize from the text book.

This post has been edited by karhoe: Jan 26 2010, 01:00 AM

F4 after you have understood the principles, if you want to memorise it then just keep on reading the pass year exam answer sheet.

Most of them are just the same, you will write exactly what the examiner wants

The problem with F4 is that there's whole load of things to be memorized!

& my aim ain't just a meagre pass, I need to secure at least >75 to get the first-class honour from OBU.

I'm contemplating to drop F4 before mock just in case I couldn't reach the mark. But currently, it remains quite unrealistically.

I find it easier than doing those complicated calculations

each paper at least 68 marks is already enough to get first class but it is safer to set it high

in order for you to get the OBU, make sure you are opted into the OBU scheme and pass F4 before F7/F8/F9. Otherwise, your OBU is gone...

This post has been edited by nothingz: Jan 26 2010, 09:23 AM

I agree that the fees are not that big a difference for most of us come from families of middle income . We all want to graduate from this tough tough course. 2 ways to achieve it:

1. good campus facilities esp space like chairs and tables in quiet study environment. We can work hard, so long as we put in effort we can pass. one or two such colleges are devoid of lecturers who can't communicate clearly, let alone teach us, EXCEPT for P2 Lecturer. Good and dedicated! on other papers, so we have to rely on ourselves.

2. good lecturers. We still have to work hard, but this time our learning curve (F9 theory ) is faster.

But I think for many CAT loyalists who passed would think that current college is good. "I am OK so far in exam, why change school?" mentality. Perfectly understandable. But one should look ahead, are seniors are passing at higher levels? I can vouch many many students failed. June 2009 results, we have about 20 of us taking a F Level paper and only 3 of us passed! 3!

So 2 options for CAT loyalists:

a) I don't believe what you say. stay and try anyway the F Level lecturers.
b) wise up. I know too many failed. I better find much better lecturers.

Please bear in mind, we still have to work very hard.

I think the above doesn't apply to straight A students. I mean they are already good, never mind about experienced lecturers.

On good study environment but with new new young young lecturers, is like going into a restaurant because it has nice chairs tables, lightings and oh yeah never mind about the Lousy Chef (Lecturers) and low quality food ingredients (Textbooks and manuals). That's is least important.

In my humble opinions only. to pass is combination of very good lecturers and personal hard work. all other things like concourse, nice condo living, pools, sports courts are distractions.

Invite the responses of Karhoe, Semivalue, 88XAVIER88, Carlosandy, ThanatosSwiftfire and of course not to forget the wise one - Topace111


This post has been edited by MegRyan: Jan 26 2010, 10:05 AM

Would like to ask anyone here who study at KDU or INTI Subang for ACCA programme,
how is the lecturers and study like?

Please share it with me. Thanks

Try to get an average as high as possible, if possible an average of 80 for F4, F5, F6 - it's really doable. So you can pass F7 F8 F9 and still get first class hons in OBU

Eh, which college is that? 20 take F level papers and only 3 pass? I thought the real challenge is at core level?

Anyway I have some realistic facts to share, sometimes the college success cannot be attributable 100% to the lecturers, sometimes it's really the students own hard work.

And applying this to the current situation, when you have a college which has advertised itself as the best, obviously the 'best' would go there and the 'best' would be the ones maintaining the status quo of the above mentioned college.

For instance, I have known of some straight A SPM scorers and these people continue to be the one winning prizes in CAT/ACCA. So obviously they are born intelligently.

This is just my opinion, which is why lucrative scholarships are given out to attract these students.

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Added on January 26, 2010, 3:42 pmDude, don't worry, I read your blog before, straight A students, you should be able to do it. When I started my first semester in ACCA, I took 4 papers, F4, F5, F6 and F9 then I got scared the hell out of F4, that I dropped F9, which was a mistake I regret, after everything settles in, F4 is really an easy paper.

The chances of passing - 10 questions, just get a mere 5 from each questions and the questions are VERY repetitive.

This post has been edited by karhoe: Jan 26 2010, 03:42 PM

I said bye bye to first class already.... now the hope is on second upper class which i think is not a problem

hai guys,i want to ask.....CAT is really hard???

how can we answer you without knowing your past results in SPM etc?

anyway, i did not study accounts in secondary school. CAT was not really that hard, at least for me. Even if it is easy, you don't put in effort also sure fail la

If you are hardworking, nothing is difficult.

Accounting in SPM only give you advantage in T1 ONLY, in CAT there's 9 papers and easily the advantage you have will only last you 1-2 weeks into CAT, after that even those with accounting background in SPM will have to study hard.

FYI, accounting in SPM is not even accounting, it's BOOK KEEPING

Cat was rather easy. I mugged rather hard in 1st sem, and things gotten easier after that. Just show abit of interest in how everything works and you'll be fine. =D

Double entry is a science, once u get it, u shud get it all the time, and when in doubt, double entry is ALWAYS where u revert back to If double entry tak masuk akal, ur screwed

theory part no need double entry skill

until u reach the point where theory meets dbl entry

Since you've quoted my ID, I have to reply you...

Well, i think lecturers play the most important role in your studies. If you have good lecturers, more or less you are save. If you have bad lecturers, you might even be demotivated by their lectures, ie go to their lectures without 'semangat'. Good lecturers save most of your work, produce summarize notes, key words, examination techniques, and committed in reaching to your problems. You can't really study P3 by studying everything from Kaplan, BPP to GTG and even JSW Well, I feel that students are the customers, and to some certain extent, they should be treated nicely (stakeholders kept satisfied?) given that they are the one who are paying (forget about those scholarship holders). It's useless for a student attending lectures, and listening them merely 'elaborating' from the textbooks.

Straight A students or not straight A, I don't think they different a lot. They are still human. They still need to be treated equally with other students, with care by the university/college. My friend once participated in an accounting competition, and he said the winner of the competition failed a subject in his/her P paper. And I actually find the paper is the easiest among P papers (if you know how to tackle the questions, and have the techniques)! If not mistaken, what she lacks of is really the techniques (which usually colleges don't teach), and also some luck (merely because you don't learn luck in ACCA doesn't mean that it is not important).

Regarding the environment, I think to a certain extent, it plays. For example, I can't study well in a hot, and cramped single-storey small terrace-house with 5 rooms. There are also some facilities that students really need when it comes to study. Other than than, clubs, pubs, I think they don't serve any purpose in your ACCA studies, unless the they relate to the scenario tested in P7.

This post has been edited by semivalue: Jan 26 2010, 08:21 PM

wow guys din't know that what i said earlier could lead on this train of thoughts. There're more than just fees differences that convinced me to finish my ACCA in sunway, since I'm not staying that far from the college, plus i'm used to the place and environment there.

Lecture quality-wise I'm not in a position to comment since i'm still a newbie here but my senior friends have no big issue with teaching quality so guess won't be a "big deal" then haha.

Just wondering do u guys have any good websites for ACCA tips and notes?
been exploring opentuition.com just to see what i can get =)

Sometimes these tips are not accurate at all.
I had a lecturer. He so claimed that he was invited by ACCA tips publisher (ie opentuition, pqmagazine, BPP, Kaplan, etc... However, which one it is, I don't know) to write his spot areas for ACCA exams.
He agreed. And when comes to writing the tips, he wrote 'what he thinks may not come out' for the tips publisher, and gave 'what he thinks will come out' to his students. "Because my students pay me!!", he said.
And true enough, the tips publisher published the tips

This post has been edited by semivalue: Jan 26 2010, 08:19 PM