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TSB u B u
post Apr 4 2009, 03:46 PM, updated 17y ago

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i've REALLY read through all the relevant guides here and still i dont understand...so can anyone can teach me how do i OC my e5200?

E5200
Gigabyte G31
2GB ddr2-800
CM extreme power 500w
CM 341 casing..


stock hsf enuf rite?

How i do get it to 3.0ghz rock stable?

TQ

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post Apr 4 2009, 03:55 PM

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G31 not best in OC itink..
u need true power psu.. extreme not true power psu..
what is the default speed?
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post Apr 4 2009, 04:11 PM

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i dont think so,cuz many ppl told me e5200+g31 can OC pretty well.. CM extreme 500w is 450w real power.

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QUOTE(B u B u @ Apr 4 2009, 04:11 PM)
i dont think so,cuz many ppl told me e5200+g31 can OC pretty well.. CM extreme 500w is 450w real power.
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Peace. How you calculate that?

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QUOTE(B u B u @ Apr 4 2009, 04:11 PM)
i dont think so,cuz many ppl told me e5200+g31 can OC pretty well.. CM extreme 500w is 450w real power.
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QUOTE(anep @ Apr 4 2009, 03:55 PM)
G31 not best in OC itink..
u need true power psu.. extreme not true power psu..
what is the default speed?
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trying to say i need true power psu to oc? my raidmax non true power can even help me get 4ghz on a quaddie, wat more this cm 500w biggrin.gif

QUOTE(-pWs- @ Apr 4 2009, 04:15 PM)
Peace. How you calculate that?

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the only way ppl can calculate that is by testing themselves, stressing both gpu and cpu and see how much watt the psu was able to deliver continuously smile.gif

@TS, try 300x10, and i dun think u need to change vcore, e5200 should be able to oc to 3ghz with voltage set to auto smile.gif

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post Apr 4 2009, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(anep @ Apr 4 2009, 03:55 PM)
G31 not best in OC itink..
u need true power psu.. extreme not true power psu..
what is the default speed?
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I dont think that as a problem here, i can oc my e7300 to 4ghz 24/7 stable with only coolermaster extreme 430w(lol) + 7 120mm fans

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post Apr 4 2009, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(iBenQ @ Apr 4 2009, 05:28 PM)
trying to say i need true power psu to oc? my raidmax non true power can even help me get 4ghz on a quaddie, wat more this cm 500w biggrin.gif
the only way ppl can calculate that is by testing themselves, stressing both gpu and cpu and see how much watt the psu was able to deliver continuously smile.gif

@TS, try 300x10, and i dun think u need to change vcore, e5200 should be able to oc to 3ghz with voltage set to auto smile.gif
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problem now is with temperature...10x300 will reach like 55~58 degree with prime
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QUOTE(B u B u @ Apr 4 2009, 05:32 PM)
problem now is with temperature...10x300 will reach like 55~58 degree with prime
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ok la tu.... my friend 3.2ghz 1.175v with xigmatek temp less than 55c core temp:).... 55c is not high ok biggrin.gif, or did u mean cpu temp?
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temp is depend on the user itself, some say 60c is hot already. while some say 70c. below 60c during prime is ok (for me). if i were u, ill push it more tongue.gif

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QUOTE(iBenQ @ Apr 4 2009, 05:39 PM)
ok la tu.... my friend 3.2ghz 1.175v with xigmatek temp less than 55c core temp:).... 55c is not high ok biggrin.gif, or did u mean cpu temp?
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how to do with 1.175v? if i OC the vcore automatic raise to 1.2+ d wor... 58degree core temperature
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QUOTE(B u B u @ Apr 4 2009, 07:03 PM)
how to do with 1.175v? if i OC the vcore automatic raise to 1.2+ d wor... 58degree core temperature
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Dont use automatic mode, use manual mode n set it arcording to ur cpu clock. Eg; i set my cpu to 4ghz@1.4v, n then i used prime 95/occt to test it stable or not.
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post Apr 4 2009, 08:03 PM

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btw, whats the idle temperature for e5200?

i just got myself the gigabyte g31m-esl2..
im using extremepower 350w
and ati hd4650
no prob so far..
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but when i set the vcore to manual,it says "warning not optimized bla bla bla"
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post Apr 5 2009, 01:27 AM

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dun worry abt that. I'm using the same board but with e5300.
For me I found tt above 3.2Ghz, I have to increase the Vcore quite a bit. Had to put 1.412 from BIOS for 3.45Ghz to get Prime95 running 24 hrs stable for all tests.

The idle temps for both cores are abt 41C, while on load its at 63C.
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hmmm howcome my idle temperature is around 44degrees .. using coretemp to measure,.. e5200 without any OC stock cooling..
but bios says its 32 degrees..
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QUOTE(youliang @ Apr 5 2009, 09:23 AM)
hmmm howcome my idle temperature is around 44degrees .. using coretemp to measure,.. e5200 without any OC stock cooling..
but bios says its 32 degrees..
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try use realtemp or HWmonitor to measure...
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youliang@
Realtemp inaccuracy..based on their article :

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TJ Max is an inherently unreliable and inaccurate method of measuring idle/low temperatures. Due to the way it was designed, the readings are so inaccurate under 50C that Intel says they can only be read as a number temperature above 50C. As the temperature approaches TJ Max, the precision increases and at TJ Max the temperature is considered to be 100% accurate


..so, try running prime and see your temp..compare between stock and overclock temp at same vcore...

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post Apr 5 2009, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(hackcremo @ Apr 5 2009, 11:31 AM)
youliang@
Realtemp inaccuracy..based on their article :

TJ Max is an inherently unreliable and inaccurate method of measuring idle/low temperatures. Due to the way it was designed, the readings are so inaccurate under 50C that Intel says they can only be read as a number temperature above 50C. As the temperature approaches TJ Max, the precision increases and at TJ Max the temperature is considered to be 100% accurate..so, try running prime and see your temp..compare between stock and overclock temp at same vcore...
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TJ Max is the value that activates cpu throttling and auto shuts down the pc when Thermal Monitoring is enabled to prevent overheating of the processor... usually the distance between TJMax is measured and converted into C, lets say distance to tjmax is 50, and the tjmax of this processor is 100c, then the temp is considered 50c...

for youliang's case, he'd just have to adjust the tjmax of the processor smile.gif, and if not mistaken bios only give CPU temp, not CORE temp... coretemp application reads CORE temp, based on the tjmax u set smile.gif... coretemp reads the distance between tjmax and converts to Celsius smile.gif

edit: CPU temp is measured by placing a sensor on the middle of the integrated heatsink of the processor, while CORE temp is measured via digital thermal sensor, placed on each core of the processor smile.gif

the only way to know the temp 100% accurate is to place a sensor directly on the processor itself smile.gif, but reading CORE temp should suffice as they give u an indication when will the throttling activate, and they only activate when the processor is being overheated to its limit smile.gif

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post Apr 5 2009, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(iBenQ @ Apr 5 2009, 11:46 AM)
TJ Max is the value that activates cpu throttling and auto shuts down the pc when Thermal Monitoring is enabled to prevent overheating of the processor... usually the distance between TJMax is measured and converted into C, lets say distance to tjmax is 50, and the tjmax of this processor is 100c, then the temp is considered 50c...

for youliang's case, he'd just have to adjust the tjmax of the processor smile.gif, and if not mistaken bios only give CPU temp, not CORE temp... coretemp application reads CORE temp, based on the tjmax u set smile.gif... coretemp reads the distance between tjmax and converts to Celsius smile.gif

edit: CPU temp is measured by placing a sensor on the middle of the integrated heatsink of the processor, while CORE temp is measured via digital thermal sensor, placed on each core of the processor smile.gif

the only way to know the temp 100% accurate is to place a sensor directly on the processor itself smile.gif, but reading CORE temp should suffice as they give u an indication when will the throttling activate, and they only activate when the processor is being overheated to its limit smile.gif
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so, as long we stay away from tjmax and hv some headroom is ok right?? tjmax for e5200 is 100'c, then if i hv distance from tjmax around 30-40 it save right..

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