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Travel Club LYN Japan V2, 日本へようこそ!, Here we are! Nihon Yokoso!

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post Apr 20 2009, 12:24 AM

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the airport near sapporo, hokkaido should be chitose airport

hokkaido is so nice...

r u backpacking alone?

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post May 7 2009, 11:52 PM

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Is ur 300K yen for 1 person? if so.. i think its enough for u to buy a LV bag also during ur trip tongue.gif heheheh
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post Jun 13 2009, 06:52 PM

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try this http://translate.google.com/translate_t#
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post Jun 23 2009, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(PsyCHZZZ @ Jun 20 2009, 06:05 PM)
hi guys! Just came back from Odaiba!  thumbup.gif
Went to take some pics of the Gundam... hehe... so, sharing it here.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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wow.... cool man... !!!
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post Aug 8 2009, 01:00 AM

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QUOTE(tiSSue_paPer @ Aug 7 2009, 06:08 PM)
NOV.. anyone wanna follow me to onsens..?  nod.gif
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I would like to... but... too shy.. tongue.gif
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post Aug 9 2009, 01:24 AM

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very pretty fireworks...
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post Aug 9 2009, 01:49 AM

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QUOTE(tatsuyachiba @ Aug 8 2009, 03:50 AM)
If it helps anyone, here is a description the rules one needs to know before visiting an onsen. Basically there are 2 kinds of onsen: indoor and outdoor (rotenburo). Most are segregated by gender although in some onsens, you can find private rotenburos which you can reserve for familes on an hourly basis i.e. it will be a small rotenburo in which maybe 4-5 people can fit.

If you have a tattoo, cover it up with bandaid. Otherwise you most likely will not be allowed in. Of course, if you have a crewcut, a missing pinkie and tattoos of dragons, mermaids and kanji characters that say "My brother is a Yamaguchi-gumi Oyabun" that cover your whole body, you're OK - you can just walk-in, nobody will say a thing. Don't even have to pay.

Like I said before, onsens/ryokans have lots of "rules" and Japan is a country, if nothing, that idealizes strict adherence to rules.

For a ryokan, you will stay in a Japanese-style room with tatami. Tatami rooms also available in hotels in onsens. The futons and the kakebutons (comforter) will stored in closets and somebody will make them/lay them out in the evening for you. The onsen will most probably be in the basement, but not always.

1) You will be provided a yukata (this is like a cotton kimono with a sash), slippers and a washcloth in your room. Wear the yukata, carry the washcloth and walk to onsen using those slippers. Don't forget to tie to sash tightly, otherwise you'd might be very popular with the ladies. Only they are 65 year old obaterians (means strong old women: this is another topic for another day)

2) Important: as onsens are usually separate for men and women, you will have to find out the right entrance. There will be a noren (like a half-curtain) over the entrances with the kanji symbols for man and woman. Sometimes the noren will be colored blue for men and red for women but not always. My advice: follow other guests' and see where they go. Or not. Since you're gaikokujin, heh heh you are allowed to make this "honest mistake" one-time only and go into the other side for a look-see. Remember your "sumimasen sumimasen".

3) As you enter the sliding doors, you take off your slippers. Make sure you know where you put them - sometimes a cubby hole is provided, sometimes a tag is provided etc. You then go barefoot into the "dry area".
You must never wear outdoor footwear on tatami. This is very bad manners.

4) An onsen is typically separated into a "dry area" - covered with tatami - and the bath area itself. The "dry area" is for you to disrobe, store your clothes in the provided lockers. There will be basins for you to shave (you do not shave in the bath area), hairdryers etc.

5) Once you disrobe, all you will have is wash cloth (not forgetting your locker key). You can use the wash cloth to preserve some modesty. Some of you might need two washcloths (don't boast). It is impolite to stare at other people's state of undress, unless they need 3 washcloths to cover up. In that case, you're allowed to ask them for an autograph and if they've worked with Maria Ozawa before.

6) Go through the sliding doors for the bath area and along the wall, you'll see showers. Grab a stool and a bucket and take a shower sitting down. You're not allowed to sing - this is not a karaoke. Lots of onsens have unique toiletries for the region (e.g. horse-oil shampoo, carbon soap etc).

7) Once done with shower, you then soak in bath. The washcloth you can leave on your head but what I usually do is I take the small basin along with me - I use it to pour some of the bath water on me first to let my body acclimatize to the heat) - I then put the washcloth inside the basin and set it right next to the bath. You cannot bring the washcloth into the water.

8) The bath will be hot around 42C - some prefer to go in slowly while hissing "yossssshhhhhhh"; others prefer to go in all at once - whatever works for you. Usually I soak inside the bath for 10-15 minutes - any more, I'd be sweating too much afterwards.

9) Reverse the above when you leave. I shower just with water after the bath and then change back into my yukata, walking back to my room with visible steam rising from my head. Don't go up those stairs too fast, you might faint due to the light-headedness from all the heat smile.gif

10) If you are shy, go during the times of the day when there is lower traffic. The "high season" time is just before dinner. If you go late at night say 10-11pm, almost nobody will be there. That in fact, is my preferred time, after a soak, you go directly to bed and sleep like a baby. Another time is in the morning before breakfast, not that many people.

Finally, why do people go to onsens? They believe the mineral waters cure ailments. Different regions will have hot springs with different compositions of minerals, which in turn, cure different ailments.
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hahahah... i think ur "honest mistake" excuse maybe mis-used very frequently..heheheh
just a warning to those who intend to use the honest mistake to beware of obaterians... hahaha... u may end up seeing something u may regret... tongue.gif

i must say the nihon gin seems to be very clean ppl.. must be attributed to the use of onsen... smile.gif coz they seems to spend a long long time.. scrubbing down... before going to bath...
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post Aug 10 2009, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Aug 10 2009, 11:11 AM)

Added on August 10, 2009, 11:19 am

Japanese Onsen must be taken naked, no towel, no swim trunks, although this is common and accepted in Japan,
how do you overcome this oddness initially?  tongue.gif

Also, when visiting Japan, it is best to get some Japanese Yen in Malaysia (@ local bank or money changer) ahead of time or
is it possible to change them while in Japan?
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although it may seems odd... but once u enter the onsen dressing area and u see ppl walking around naked, u will start to relax... and get the feeling tat being naked isn't much of a problem... coz everybody is also naked ... and nobody will stare at u purposely at the onsen. Beside, ppl dunno u and u dunno those ppl also, so why bother. its not like they will take photo of u and show to ppl.... unless of course if u r going wif ur frens, then i guess u need to overcome the awkwardness of being naked in front of ur frens. So dun go wif ur frens lor tongue.gif

on the contrary.. i dun think the smallcloth will be of much use to cover since it is so small. In fact, using the small cloth to cover would indicate u r not used to onsen and thus bringing unnecessary attention to you.

instead just be brave and try out the onsen. It's an experience u will never forget... hahahah tongue.gif try out the rotenburo (open air hot spring) i think its the best experience especially during cold season.

worse case scenario if u r still not comfortable, ... one final tip for first timer, u can still use the small cloth....to cover ur face.... hahaha so ppl won't recognise u. wink.gif

Change to Yen in M'sia, coz the rate is much better in m'sia.

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post Aug 18 2009, 01:08 PM

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hmm.. just wondering ..is it the japanese seldom haggle / bargain when purchasing? during our trip... seems like all the pricing kinda fix... quite impossible to bargain or get them to reduce the pricing especially in hokkaido. Example like electronic goods, everywhere pricing also the same.

My impression is u either take it or leave it, no bargaining... but one good point is they seldom overpriced their goods... just following market value. Unlike in China where everything they try to sell at outrageous inflated pricing to the tourists.

Perhaps u guys based in Japan can describe your experiences...?
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post Aug 18 2009, 10:20 PM

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heheh.. can always use the following phrases

"Ikura desu-ka?" and followed by "Takai des!!!"

But doesn't seems to work leh...
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post Sep 17 2009, 10:57 PM

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speaking of internet speed... those speeds are remarkable... and quite contrary to my experience at my hotel in Tokyo...

Once tried to upload my pics from my trip from the hotel pc... paid over RM50 for use of pc.. but failed to upload even one..pix..
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post Jan 9 2010, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(rstusa @ Jan 9 2010, 09:31 PM)
1st time go to Japan, then only realised their public toilet cleaner than my house one, lol...
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i guess japanese since young are instilled a good sense of good hygiene. If you've been to their onsen, u will notice how well the japanese scrub themselves head to toe before going into the public bath/onsen. They seems to spend so much time, just scrubbing themselves clean. I believe it is a good training since young to instill a good sense of hygiene. So naturally, when they use toilet, they will be more civilised. Malaysian have much to learn from such good hygiene habits.

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