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post Apr 2 2009, 02:25 AM, updated 17y ago

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as topic above, I would like to know which one is better?

I did some research and I found this

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what do you guys think??
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PU better
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post Apr 2 2009, 07:10 AM

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for me.. PU better
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post Apr 2 2009, 07:23 AM

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for me fiber if put as spoiler ok la.. if as skirting not tahan lama.. better PU
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post Apr 2 2009, 08:25 AM

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fiber bodykit is cheap, but when then bodykit hit something will broken one .. for me .. not worth it lo .. depend how you think la ..
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post Apr 2 2009, 08:48 AM

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yea..fibre easily fix and easily cracked also...hit small thing also can crack...like this everyday must fix..not worth it
PU if small accident it only bends...so prefer PU

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post Apr 2 2009, 08:50 AM

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what about ABS?
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post Apr 2 2009, 09:11 AM

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for me, PU always, since ive aredi xperience with fibre bumper 2 times. frendly speaking, fibre will easily crack at the screw hole where tie the bumper to the car.. 2-4 month crack aredi, but since ive use PU, aredi 1 year without any crack or "tertanggal".
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post Apr 2 2009, 10:31 AM

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it seems that both has their pro & cons but so far PU is better
because after paint spray on Fibre material, budble & uneven surface will appear. currently thats what happened
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post Apr 2 2009, 11:31 AM

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What about ABS vs PU vs PP?
I've always been wondering which is better?
Those most people say PU is somewhat like PP, but it's PP > PU.
Anyone can comment on this? Would like to know the logic smile.gif
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i think PU is better, not easy to crack..

but not sure bout ABS?Anyone can comment?
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post Apr 2 2009, 01:54 PM

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definately PU is harder to crack to due its flexibility, however, onces it does, thats the end of it. You cant fix it back. Price wise, PU is way more expensive as well, not only pricing on the b/kit itself, but paint as well, because PU material doesnt hold paints well.

For me i would always prefer fibre, not for the price, but for the customizations. There are different grade for fibres as well, not all fibres are as fragile as what ppl think. Then again, for lowered cars, its better to use PU side skirts, since theres not much to customise for side skirt eitherways.
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post Apr 2 2009, 02:04 PM

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ABS- Plastic
PU- heavy
PP- is the best quality, same like original bumper


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post Apr 2 2009, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(JenHuang @ Apr 2 2009, 02:04 PM)
ABS- Plastic
PU- heavy
PP- is the best quality, same like original bumper
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post Apr 2 2009, 05:14 PM

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what if hot country like Australia ? use what ? CF ?
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QUOTE(-YellowSn0w- @ Apr 2 2009, 05:14 PM)
what if hot country like Australia ? use what ? CF ?
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johnkor we had enough of your CF hood nonsense rclxs0.gif
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QUOTE(ah liew @ Apr 2 2009, 05:15 PM)
johnkor we had enough of your CF hood nonsense  rclxs0.gif
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i ask only ma , doh.gif btw what is normal car like us using ? FRP,ABS,PU, PUR ?
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QUOTE(-YellowSn0w- @ Apr 2 2009, 05:16 PM)
i ask only ma ,  doh.gif  btw what is normal car like us using ? FRP,ABS,PU, PUR ?
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normal car using PP lar...
u think everyone can afford CF hood ar.... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ah liew @ Apr 2 2009, 05:19 PM)
normal car using PP lar...
u think everyone can afford CF hood ar....  laugh.gif
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my car aslo no CF hood , doh.gif haiz hard to make decision ler. CF only i do Sticker damn fake one tongue.gif
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post Apr 2 2009, 05:23 PM

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guess i can say that PU is the best material
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post Apr 2 2009, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(hazremi @ Apr 2 2009, 05:23 PM)
guess i can say that PU is the best material
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nop compare wit PU,ABS,PP

1)PP
2)ABS
3)PU


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QUOTE(ah liew @ Apr 2 2009, 05:09 PM)
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post Apr 2 2009, 06:14 PM

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Wanna ask, how to check between PU and Fiber?
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QUOTE(wong ching ku @ Apr 2 2009, 06:14 PM)
Wanna ask, how to check between PU and Fiber?
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i think if i not mistaken u can feel it the lightnes and the quality build even you have prep for finishing
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QUOTE(-YellowSn0w- @ Apr 2 2009, 06:27 PM)
i think if i not mistaken u can feel it the lightnes and the quality build even you have prep for finishing
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What if its already on the car (bodykit)? How do i check then? Would be useful tip if buying 2nd hand car
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QUOTE(JenHuang @ Apr 2 2009, 05:31 PM)
u la pro  tongue.gif
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spam i pro... tongue.gif how is the gen2 lar... no updates de... hmm.gif


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QUOTE(-YellowSn0w- @ Apr 2 2009, 05:21 PM)
my car aslo no CF hood ,  doh.gif  haiz hard to make decision ler. CF only i do Sticker damn fake one  tongue.gif
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your toyota need CF hood meh?? huh.gif

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Bumper i go for PU, skirting i would stick with fiber as it's easier to customize and repair, tried PU skirting before, bang a rock then when to mold it back with fire and simen, 2 months later the simen cracked and drop off =.=

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post Apr 3 2009, 02:37 AM

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QUOTE(ah liew @ Apr 2 2009, 09:16 PM)
spam i pro...  tongue.gif how is the gen2 lar... no updates de...  hmm.gif


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your toyota need CF hood meh??  huh.gif
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the gen2 ar, gam tim edi , but when i go there, the owner take the car edi
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post Apr 3 2009, 03:12 AM

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Meanby our local oem bumper made of PP?
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QUOTE(wong ching ku @ Apr 2 2009, 06:32 PM)
What if its already on the car (bodykit)? How do i check then? Would be useful tip if buying 2nd hand car
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fist to recognize fibre, feel the inside part of the bumper/skirt, if its rough surface, confirm fibre, coz inside surface of PU or original plastic is smooth, second, try to bend a bit at some of the area like the end of the bumper/skirt, where u can squeeze it gently, then when u squeezed it and "creek" sound heard, that is confirm a fibre, as for PU or plastic, there no "creek" sound.

just my 2 cents
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post Apr 3 2009, 09:16 AM

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which is the most expensive among this 3? PU , ABS, FIBER.
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QUOTE(JenHuang @ Apr 3 2009, 02:37 AM)
the gen2 ar, gam tim edi , but when i go there, the owner take the car edi
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aiyoo... never take the pic meh...? after completion huh.gif
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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Apr 3 2009, 09:16 AM)
which is the most expensive among this 3? PU , ABS, FIBER.
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PU and ABS almost the same price


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QUOTE(D.K.Prince @ Apr 3 2009, 03:12 AM)
Meanby our local oem bumper made of PP?
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yes smile.gif


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QUOTE(ah liew @ Apr 3 2009, 09:22 AM)
aiyoo... never take the pic meh...? after completion  huh.gif
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ya lo , when i go tat time edi too late

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QUOTE(ah liew @ Apr 2 2009, 09:16 PM)
spam i pro...  tongue.gif how is the gen2 lar... no updates de...  hmm.gif


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your toyota need CF hood meh??  huh.gif
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need gua for cosmetic purposes tongue.gif
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post Apr 3 2009, 11:40 AM

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johnkor aka -YellowSn0w- can make CF hood. DIY home-made CF.
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QUOTE(andyjyneo @ Apr 3 2009, 11:40 AM)
johnkor aka -YellowSn0w- can make CF hood. DIY home-made CF.
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YellowSnow : can make sticker CF... blush.gif
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QUOTE(nazri86a @ Apr 3 2009, 11:50 AM)
YellowSnow : can make sticker CF...  blush.gif
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Sure can. No problem. You want CF hand? Call johnkor.
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QUOTE(JenHuang @ Apr 3 2009, 11:34 AM)
ya lo , when i go tat time edi too late
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nevermind lah.... wait for the next gen2 project brows.gif if have lar... laugh.gif


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QUOTE(andyjyneo @ Apr 3 2009, 11:55 AM)
Sure can. No problem. You want CF hand? Call johnkor.
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this johnkor is a die hard CF hood fan laugh.gif
no matter how many dupes he created also related to australia, CF hood & FD biggrin.gif wahaha!


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QUOTE(-YellowSn0w- @ Apr 3 2009, 11:37 AM)
need gua for cosmetic purposes  tongue.gif
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johnkor boy boy u don't need a CF hood for cosmetic lar.... doh.gif just spray it black can liau

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the thread has turned into kopitiam. can we stick to the topic?
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hi

juz wanna to ask how's bout FRP dat use by airmaster as their material?
which one is better?
PU, fibre or FRP is better??
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Fibreglass is cheap.
If you like to change bodykits a lot.
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For skirting,i will go for Fiber instead of PU..
Bcoz before this when i want to buy a skirting for my car,i had asked several people,n most of them prefer PU..
but after bought the PU,maybe i'm not so lucky,my car lip start to show distortion that cause of hot climate..so now i planning to change it with fiber one..
another experience is my sister's car had been hit n her car sideskirt had cracked..but after repaired,it look like nothing happen..
For me,the only advantage of PU is it flexibility..
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QUOTE(joexoll @ Apr 3 2009, 07:27 PM)
hi

juz wanna to ask how's bout FRP dat use by airmaster as their material?
which one is better?
PU, fibre or FRP is better??
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PU = plastic
Fiber = normal fiber
FRP = fiber reinforced plastic means mixture of plastic and fiber

Ranking of durability:
PU > FRP > fiber

Ranking of ability of repair:
Fiber > FRP (I didn't include PU because PU can't be repaired)
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what's the difference between PP and PU?
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can i ask ABS or fiber is heavier?

ill b getting a spoiler soon ... one shop has fiber ... the other has ABS

i want the lighter one
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I have same question as above, which one is lighter? and what is the price like?
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QUOTE(andyjyneo @ Apr 4 2009, 01:33 AM)
PU = plastic
Fiber = normal fiber
FRP = fiber reinforced plastic means mixture of plastic and fiber

Ranking of durability:
PU > FRP > fiber

Ranking of ability of repair:
Fiber > FRP (I didn't include PU because PU can't be repaired)
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actualy FRP and fiberglass can be same material lor tongue.gif
glass fiber cant stand alone unless being reinforce by plastic matrix so call fiber (fiberglass) reinforced plastic or FRP
normally they use the combination of glass fiber for fiber and epoxy for plastic in FRP
in industry fiberglass is 'bahasa pasar' for FRP tongue.gif
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If $$ is not a problem, go for PU.
U will probably scratch it somehow, and fiber will crack easily, cuz it's less flexible.
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So guys how to differentiate the physical looks between a PU material and ori body kits which uses PP material? I send my wira for a change of SE body kits so when i go to check em i would like to be sure....
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http://wmwp308.wordpress.com/2012/07/09/bodykit-info/ the answer
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Hi need to bring this old post up because I have question to ask. Recently I sent my car to install bodykit. The the front and rear under spoiler looks ok and acceptable. The trunk spoiler have a little bit uneven but I do not mind it and it still acceptable. However, come to the side under spoiler, the surface looks so uneven. If there only have little bit uneven then I still acceptable but mine is too many uneven surfaces.

The modulo bodykit for Honda City.
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Ask the accessories shop’s boss, she says that the bodykit is made by PP material, it is normal. However, last time my old car bodykit never have facing such kind of bodykit with so many uneven surfaces. Even my Vios original bodykit are so smooth and flat on all their bodykit surfaces.

May I know is this normal? PP or PU material really have this kind of problem?

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post Jun 26 2021, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(junclj @ Jun 25 2021, 11:58 PM)
Hi need to bring this old post up because I have question to ask. Recently I sent my car to install bodykit. The the front and rear under spoiler looks ok and acceptable. The trunk spoiler have a little bit uneven but I do not mind it and it still acceptable. However, come to the side under spoiler, the surface looks so uneven. If there only have little bit uneven then I still acceptable but mine is too many uneven surfaces.

The modulo bodykit for Honda City.

Ask the accessories shop’s boss, she says that the bodykit is made by PP material, it is normal. However, last time my old car bodykit never have facing such kind of bodykit with so many uneven surfaces. Even my Vios original bodykit are so smooth and flat on all their bodykit surfaces.

May I know is this normal? PP or PU material really have this kind of problem?
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Are you sure you are installing "Modulo Bodykit" and not "Modulo Style Bodykit" which is imitation?

Any plastic injection mold are subject to shrinkage after the molding. High injection pressure machine, precise mold and control of even shrinkage is expensive.

That's why LEGO, action figures, Bandai model kits are so expensive.

When comes to bodykit
- Top quality = direct surface sanding and painting.
- Ok quality = touch up, including surface touch up with resin exactly like the yellow/brown clay resin after accident, sanding then only paint. Yours falls around there, a lot of Taiwan 3rd party accessories are in this quality level. Maybe they didn't touch up and straight paint.
- Bad quality = At lot of repair, and high variation between batch. Customer A ok, then customer B fitting problem. Need to cut and retrofit for some case. Some warp not straight. The mold also not accurate, the sharp lines are blur.

These are the molding quality, and not related to the parts durability.
Some shop don't know lazy or no experience, didn't sand and straight paint base coat. Even good part the paint adhesion is not good, will peel off after a few years.
Good workmanship shop will sand, then paint adhesion promoter primer, then only base code, and other layers.

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QUOTE(constant_weight @ Jun 26 2021, 08:47 PM)
Are you sure you are installing "Modulo Bodykit" and not "Modulo Style Bodykit" which is imitation?

Any plastic injection mold are subject to shrinkage after the molding. High injection pressure machine, precise mold and control of even shrinkage is expensive.

That's why LEGO, action figures, Bandai model kits are so expensive.

When comes to bodykit
- Top quality = direct surface sanding and painting.
- Ok quality = touch up, including surface touch up with resin exactly like the yellow/brown clay resin after accident, sanding then only paint. Yours falls around there, a lot of Taiwan 3rd party accessories are in this quality level. Maybe they didn't touch up and straight paint.
- Bad quality = At lot of repair, and high variation between batch. Customer A ok, then customer B fitting problem. Need to cut and retrofit for some case. Some warp not straight. The mold also not accurate, the sharp lines are blur.

These are the molding quality, and not related to the parts durability.
Some shop don't know lazy or no experience, didn't sand and straight paint base coat. Even good part the paint adhesion is not good, will peel off after a few years.
Good workmanship shop will sand, then paint adhesion promoter primer, then only base code, and other layers.
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From my situation above, the bodykits are now being coated and if I send to workshop to fix the two side under spoilers on left and right with putty filler then resanding and repainting. I have to wait for another 2 weeks to a month time until the painting are fully dried then I only can send back my car to re-do coating again on the two side under spoilers.

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I think the material for your bodykit most likely made from PU. PP is much better but of cos more expensive.
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QUOTE(junclj @ Jun 26 2021, 09:26 PM)
From my situation above, the bodykits are now being coated and if I send to workshop to fix the two side under spoilers on left and right with putty filler then resanding and repainting. I have to wait for another 2 weeks to a month time until the painting are fully dried then I only can send back my car to re-do coating again on the two side under spoilers.
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Depends on the paint, my detailer use Glasurit paint, with medium speed hardener on clear coat. He always recommend 2 months before coating or PPF also by him.

Side skirts, diffuser are prone to abuse, after 2-3 months of daily driving the surface will be rough on touch. Depends if you want perfection on the parts that destined for abrasion loh.
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QUOTE(junclj @ Jun 25 2021, 11:58 PM)
Hi need to bring this old post up because I have question to ask. Recently I sent my car to install bodykit. The the front and rear under spoiler looks ok and acceptable. The trunk spoiler have a little bit uneven but I do not mind it and it still acceptable. However, come to the side under spoiler, the surface looks so uneven. If there only have little bit uneven then I still acceptable but mine is too many uneven surfaces.

The modulo bodykit for Honda City.
user posted image

Ask the accessories shop’s boss, she says that the bodykit is made by PP material, it is normal. However, last time my old car bodykit never have facing such kind of bodykit with so many uneven surfaces. Even my Vios original bodykit are so smooth and flat on all their bodykit surfaces.

May I know is this normal? PP or PU material really have this kind of problem?
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Update from my previous post. I was ordered another set of side skirts from Honda Malaysia. This time is directly installed the genuine Modulo side skirts. Yesterday I was sent my car to Honda service center to replace the side skirts. Now it looks more solid and smoothness surface.

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