DEAR ALL,

SINCE ITS GOING TO BE PC FAIR JUST AROUND THE CORNER, I HAVE A VERY IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT TO ALL OF THE POTENTIAL BUYER OUT THERE..

PLEASE STAY AWAY OR DONT BUY ANY NOTEBOOK/LAPTOP THAT HAVE NVIDIA 8400M & 8600M SERIES, BECAUSE THESE CHIPSET WILL GONNA FAIL IN A YEAR TIME (MOSTLY AROUND 1.5 YRS PERIOD) - WELL..IT DEPENDS ON YOUR USAGE & MAINTENANCE AS WELL....


I'M A VICTIM OF NVIDIA 8400M GS USER TOO... IM USING A HP 2550EN WHICH HAVE A HGIH SPECIFICATION DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME.. BOUGHT AT 0CT 2007 (RM 5700)... AND JUST 1 YRS & 4 MONTH, THE LAPPY DIED DUE TO THE OVERHEAT PROBLEM, MAINLY & CONFIRMEDLY CAUSED BY THE CULPRIT NVIDIA 8400M GS CARD.... SENT TO HP SERVICE CENTRE...BUT THEY DONT WANNA REPAIR FOR ME FOC DUE TO WARRANTY OVER, EVENTOUGH THEY AGREE THIS IS A MANUFACTURER DEFECT.... THEY CHARGE ME RM2K+ FOR CHANGING A NEW MOBO (WITH THE SAME CHIPSET)..WTF....I TOLD THEM IF WITH THE SAME CHIPSET, THE SAME PROBLEM WILL STILL OCCUR IN NEAR FUTURE...GUESS WHAT THEY SAY?? "THEN YOU HAVE TO BUY ADDITIONAL @ EXTENDED 3 YRS WARRANTY IF YOU SCARE THIS PROBLEM WILL COME BACK"

DONT BELIEVE, TRY ASK ANY OF YOUR FREN WHO BOUGHT ANY LAPTOP BRAND THAT USES THE NVIDIA 8400 & 8600, OR ASK THOSE TECHNICIAN AT LOWYAT, OR EASIEST...GOOGLE ALL ONLINE COMPUTER RELATED FORUMS.... IM JUST ANOTHER DISSAPOINTED VICTIM THAT LOSE 5.7K IN A YEAR+ TIME....

CHECK THIS OUT..

http://h30434.www3.hp.com/psg/board/messag...scending&page=1
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/documen...277&lc=en&cc=us
http://h30434.www3.hp.com/psg/board/messag...message.id=5834

CHECK THIS VIDEO OUT THAT I FOUND THE USER HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM AS ME.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2o_CaSqKvE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pO-ItTP6DX8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrcrrgLaMqI


THIS QUOTE IS FROM WIKIPEDIA - REGARDING NVIDIA 8000 SERIES :

"On May 10, 2007, NVIDIA announced the availability of their GeForce 8 notebook GPUs through select OEMs. So far the lineup consists of the 8400M, 8600M, 8700M and 8800M series chips.[36] It has been announced by nVidia that some of their graphics chips have a higher than expected rate of failure due to overheating when used in particular notebook configurations. Some major laptop manufacturers are making adjustments to fan setting and firmware updates to help delay the occurrence of any potential GPU failure. In late July, Dell released a set of BIOS updates that made the laptop fans spin more frequently[37]. As of mid-August, nVidia is yet to give further details publicly, though it has been heavily rumored that all or most of the 8400 and 8600 cards have this issue."

FOR THOSE WHO ARE ALSO THE VICTIM OF THIS & WAS NOT COMPENSATE A FREE REPAIR BY COMPANY :HP,DELLS, ASUS...ETC.... LET JUST VOICE OUT YOUR DISSATISFACTION AND TO ALERT OTHER POTENTIAL BUYER OUT THERE TO STAY AWAY FROM LAPTOP THAT USES THESE CHIPSET....HOPE THIS WILL ABLE TO PRESSURE THOSE RETAILERS & MANUFACTURER, SO THAT, WE WILL HAVE OUR FAULTY UNIT TO BE "RECALL BACK" WITH FOC....

Hmm...something this big, I am sure HP will do a recall to save their reputation.

If such things really is happening, then perhaps those who already bought the laptop with such nvidia chipset should consider buying extended warranty.

There are a lot of HP user (and other brand too) out there still holding their grudge over this issue.

Anyway, the era of 8400/8600 has past already. Only those not familiar with laptop tech will still buy a laptop with 8400/8600 as graphic.

my sister owned a Dell inspiron 15 which got 8400M GS, bought in 2007, now also running well, a friend of mine got a 8600M Asus, also no problem so far

been using my HP Dv6500t from july 2007 till now

never seem to encounter any heat issue,running well till now

but i still buy the extended warranty for other purpose

I think it is down to how you use and take care of your laptop. I was using 8400gs on my Dell Inspiron and the mobo and GC died after 6 month, lucky i was stil in the warranty period so Dell fixed the problem for me. I game alot on that machine and without cooler summore, so i think that is the factor that caused the GC to died off. Anyway, 8600 and 8400 series is knda outdated these days,with ATI starting to have more option in laptop, and nvidia with its 9 series, the 8series should be forgotten

haha....i understand ....i used to be in your situation before, says few months back....when someone told me that my laptop gonna face this problem... well...i told him the same thing as what you've said...."so far no problem...i don't play games..i only use for office works, internet surfing, music & dvd purpose...not so 3D intensive usage...so...my laptop should be able to tahan wan"....and after 2 months time.....i'm here grumbling and feeling disappointed.......anyway...for those who had bought the laptop that using this chips, u MAYBE can delay this problem with:-

1) use your laptop in an A/C room
2) use very good laptop cooler
3) update bios (bios update will force the fan run 100% eventough low load...however this will sacrifice your battery lasting duration)
4) try put smth underneath the laptop (dont block the ventilation holes) to create a gap for better ventilation
5) u suggest urself... haha

If I don't game, will it have the same issue?

haha......i found a posting by someone regarding this same issue in the lowyat forum as well.......

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/982643

I'm aware of this issue as well, everytime i play games without aircon, i can feel the heat on my palm and my room will become hotter than usual. Mine lappy's warranty gonna expired soon, may i know where can i extend the warranty? and how much does it cost? oh ya, i'm using HP DV3000.

http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2009/03/faulty-nvidia-c.html

That is why, when you buy laptop, please include budget to extend warranty to 3 years minimum. Better if can extend to 5 years.

You cannot replace notebook parts by yourself, like a own-built desktop PC box. Here are some expensive replacement cost for notebooks:
- Mobo
- LCD
- Case + hinges
- Battery
- Power adapter

victim here... 8600M GS, juz sent to service center 2 days ago, third time after using for abt 1.5yr...

it doesn't matter where u use the laptop, air con or not.. the main problem with the GPU (G84M and G86M, ie 8400M G/GS/GT, 8600 GS/GT and 8700M GT) is that the solderin material will fail if the card experience rapid change in temperature...

so the only way to prevent the problem from happening, besides not using the laptop, is to keep the card either cold or hot for a long time (read: doesn't matter if u game or overclock or whatever)

ways i ve tried include using Folding@Home GPU client (to keep the card in Performance 3D mode at all times, 7xC to 8xC, depending on the work), disabling Powermizer (so that the clock will stay in only 1 clock speed), using cooler, but that doesn't seem to be a permanent soution...

the only way, as TS suggested, is to to replace the GPU with, perhaps GeForce 9M... but no, the OEMs are not going to do that cuz that will mean lots of extra expenses (especially in times like this)... a recall of the GPU??? Nvidia already said they will not do that, reason being that it will bring down the whole company should they do that...

that's why Nvidia offered to compensate the OEMs for the spoilt GPU that they ve changed (less reason for OEMs to change to a new GPU), and that's y we'll still keep getting G8xM GPU in the future... however, Nvidia has the G84M using the old (which has no problem at all) material instead...

also, i am not sure abt the others, but BenQ S41 users have managed to argue with BenQ to waive the fee for replacing the mobo, which is RM1.5k iirc...

so in the mean time, good luck...

This post has been edited by astria: Apr 1 2009, 04:04 PM

Dont have to type the whole thing in caps.

Another victim of dead 8600GT here.

The replacement model is still running fine even after 1 year plus.

Dont forget that 9500GS is actually 8600GT.nVidia just rebadge it.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Apr 1 2009, 04:10 PM

damm same case as my fren , changed his mobo 4 times lolz , in the end bought a desktop , fyi : his laptop was 1yr and 4 weeks old

HP have problem with the ventilation.

I am still using Dell Vostro 1400 that comes with Nvidia 8400M GS GPU. I bought the laptop in January 2008. So, now it is one year and 3 months since the date of purchase.

Luckily, I haven't encountered any issue with the GPU because I use the stock driver and never overclock it. And recently, I replace it with the mobile driver provided by Nvidia website in the late 2008. Let's wait and see what happens next

This post has been edited by eclectice: Apr 1 2009, 04:27 PM

8600M GS (benq S41) victim here also. Damn time bomb. Repaired twice , broke down twice WTF WTF WTF. im not gonna get nvidia GC anymore!

I disagreed if said 100% NVIDIA 8400M got issue. is still depend on the OEM manufacture to determine the final outcome.
but all NVIDIA 8xxx series user still better confirm check the brand company website like hp, dell, etc... for any latest announcement . that's why NVIDIA denied and did not launch recall program 100%ly. like sony battery fire issue...
so no point to advise to 100% stay away from NVIDIA 8400M system, plus try dun use all CAPS post....

Sorry to hear tat,
I got rid of my lappy as soon as i got it repaired a year ago.
the 8600M gs gpu failed in just bout a year. Needless to say, i pissed as hell!
Lucky me, a technician fren helped me to replace just the gpu, and NOT the mobo.
never bother anything with nvidia since. Looking forward to AMD/ATI platform from now on.

This post has been edited by babyrabies: Apr 1 2009, 05:50 PM

My Inspiron's 8400GS died on me last November (6 months old laptop) but luckily Dell's warranty take care of it. I didn't play game on, just watching movies, online and torrent.
But I pity on those whose laptop died right after their warranty ended. Most company won't repair your laptop (even it's due to the faulty GC) for free once your warranty has ended.
Like the saying "Once bitten, Twice shy", I think most of us will avoid NVidia's GC in laptop for a while though.

dude, a recall on ALL 8 series chip would cause nvidia bankrupt.
I would keep mum too if im them.
It aint the brand, its the gpu. But i believe 8 series gpu manufactured after sept would
have rectified the soldering material.

Electromigration on the soldering material... It is quite an issue in any IC design with super-small size...

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/3...chips-defective

You say that's why NVIDIA denied and did not launch recall program 100%ly
HP manager said HP won't admit the chips are faulty until NVIDIA admits they are faulty and release the full list
I say no point fingering. fingerin only works on girls

i think both HP and nvidia have problem. nvidia cards have problm not only in HP brand but others brands as well which is quite prevalent...n obvious

HP notebook with iGPU card (non geforce) oso got problm of lcd not able to on and strings of minor problems which altogether sum up huge defects in HP notebook



This post has been edited by wayfeel: Apr 1 2009, 06:48 PM

the inquirer??? notorious for being a Nvidia basher... dun trust totally...

how about nvidia geforce go 6150??

nothing to do with this leh... GeForce 6150 is a GeForce 6 integrated graphic...

but i heard it also got problem for the whole hp tx1XXX series
http://www.mycheaplaptop.net/

Many of the v3000 series use GeForce 6150. It's also a timebomb, particularly the earlier models. (Before 36xx IIRC)
That's why HP extended the warranty of the affected v3000 as well as some HP Pavilion models.

There was a page on HP's site documenting this problem, listing the affected models, symptoms and whatnot. All of em have NVIDIA inside.

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Added on April 1, 2009, 9:39 pmRelated link:

http://www.techspot.com/news/31553-nvidia-...e-response.html

Just google 'nvidia gpu failure', you'll get loads more info.


This post has been edited by cannavaro: Apr 1 2009, 09:39 PM

going desktop for me after my laptop dies. no more laptop, except as a alternative like vaio p.<-- I love this cutie

that's the old news, all 8 series card including my 7150M/630M also have the overheat problem, no choice but to live with it, i also dont know u warranty over already or not, gonna extend it if it is over

7150M is considered part of GeForce 8M family as according to Nvidia...

im also nvdia victim huhu.. my lapply doesnt want to boot up.. i need to push again n again start button until window screen appear.. this is bullshit ...

emmm do nvidia 9100g, 9200gs, 9300gs as well as 9600gt have such problem? i heard that nvidia repackage some of the 8k series gpu to be 9k series gpu, is it true? im kinda worry.

yes, if recall will bankrupt I guess...
personally i also think that is not hp or oem fault, chipset itself already have design issue.
if the oem manufacture have very good on final design how to prolong it, it might still can cover, usually on standard size of system. for those small small compact system or certain design on system still unable to save the nvidia chipset issue.
when I said not 100% must have issue, but perhaps it already very high failure rate already happen. 97%?
we dunno, I'm sure nvidia must keep this number highly confidential. so, generally comment on chipset might not helpful for those want to buy new system, unless stated more specify details on model number.....

Question is.. Is there clear evidence that G84M chipsets produced after October 2008 are using the new Hitachi underfill stated by NVIDIA, supposedly fixing the problem. We'd only know that for sure in January 2010, where most of the newest buyers of the current chips would reach the 1 year period.

I pray they fixed it. Cuz I just purchased my XPS.. And my order was delayed 1 month cuz not enough stock.. Hopefully they made new chips for it Hehehe..

9500M GS, 9300M G are renamed 8600M GT and 8400M GS respectively...

hi All,

I'm my laptop recently cannot detect signal when i try to project on the projector. Over 1 year now i never face this problem. I'm suspectin this relating to this issue as my Dell Vostro 1400 had been advice by dell to change the motherboard to get this problem solved. Anyone facing same issue or is changing chipset and motherboard the solution?

D

I've been searching thru alot of forums lately...also found out alot of complain of user worldwide on the Nvidia 9000 Series Mobile GPU.... So therefore, please be careful when u r going to buy a new laptop nowadays especially those with Nvidia GPU... It is already well known to have overheating and abnormally higher rate of premature failure... which most likely happen between 1st n 2nd year...Therefore, try choose other alternative like ATI or those Intel intregrated GPU. If you really like the Nvidia, I STRONGLY recommend you guys out there to buy or request for 3 yrs extented if possible. Do trust me... me and few of my friends are victims of the STUPID NVIDIA and the POOR HP Quality & After Sales Service.... HAPPY SHOPPING

i avoided nVidia in my newest laptop purchase n went with ATi instead for the time being. The trouble i had with my S41 really made me hate nVidia. I saved my schholar money, eating instant noodles almost everyday and some hard work to earn for that S41, and less than a year later the GC broke down, luckily it was under warranty period at the time, then it broke down 1 more time. the third time the gc died on me, i took the S41 n smashed it on the ground lol... so damn frustated.

now damn happy with 3670 on my dell studio xps 16. Peace of mind for now. Will take some years b4 i get the confidence to buy nVidia product again

all manufather kena..
all becoz Geforce 8400

nvidia 9100mg got problem?

just wanna said that actually Nvidia n ATI has same heat issue on lappy...
some1 also open the thread stated that ATI heat issue on Studio XPS 16...
my vostro GC on idle is 64c.... but i feel may be is Driver problem that causing heat or might be the fan got dust...
and Dell never update the 8400M GS driver for inspiron n vostro user... the last updated is 175.97 for inspiron lappy...

This post has been edited by subrok007: Apr 10 2009, 10:22 PM

another one who mixed the 2 issues...

that SXPS is a separate issue...

and find ur own driver if Dell dun update it...

How can we know that the laptops that using the next graphic card after 8400 and 8600 will not having the same problem?

my 8600gs died on me last year on my BenQ S41... still running fine after the replacement

Guys does the latest 9300M GS and 9500M GS have overheat problems? Cuz they are the successors of 8400M and 8600M respetively right?

haiz ....
actually all GC had the probability of getting overheat. It depend on the user.
Dont worried i'm trying on the SXPS 16 ! may be my GC is the only one faulty from ATI or from Dell.
So far i had tested ... no problem with my gaming software. Last one is the Driver and GC.

I heard alot ppl get scold 8400 GS. for those unknown ppl, they using 8400GS never facing overheating issue.
as my roommate, he never believe that inpsiron 8400GS will overheat. almost 8 months using it, no problem at all.
my relative using 8600GT from acer aspire (06-07) ddint facing any overheat issue

hard to said ~ bcoz world wide many ppl facing such issue ~
ATI also not very good, the driver issue. wish SXPS use ATI 4870 or 9800GT.
Overheat never mind, Dell will replace as long the warranty is still there.

I heard from Dell technician that Dell update XPS 13 bios that will prevent teh GC overheat but while you playing the game, u will facing lagging !! Having a fun lagging game ~

hello i have a 8600m gt now it started overheating like crazy from the last 2 months my laptop is 9 months old. what can i do please tell me?

should i get a notebook cooler? i am still under wrty.
but i need to use my laptop everyday i dont have a desktop or any secondary laptop.

If i contact acer now what will they do will they replace my 8600m gt with a new 8600m gt? but that will be the same problem right? even if they replace to 9500m gs.

Or Will they send me a new laptop? plz tell what will they do to reapir?

Also Another problem is i replaced my optical drive in my laptop and in doing so i lost a screw will it void my wrty? will i be able to claim wrty?

plz reply soon

Try to get table fan to blow ur laptop, i dun think there is any cooler can help to cold down laptop heat. 1 more thing is gc cant be replace, once spoil will replace a new 1 with motherboard.

hmm i've a ASUS Z53S with the 8600M GS card. bought it in August 2007. play with overclocks alot. coz my card's speeds were downclocked to Core:500/Mem:400.

was it a countermeasure against this issue or did ASUS do it just to give more battery life and reduce the hassle to provide better cooling? o_O

Um i am planning to buy a macbook which using nvidia geforce 8400 as the video card....so should i buy it as u say these do spoil in one year more?

u can try ur luck, my fren's dell 1420 gforce8400 die after 6months.

better not take the risk...since its a macbook...

Wah... didn't get to see this thread !!!

My laptop use 8400m die after 1 year of usage. Luckly it still under warranty with Dell. Hopefully it will not die again.

Just avoid this gc for ur own good. U have been warned.

Maybe MOD can put this thread on the top/sticky to make sure buyers aware of it and not been fool by the major/big company like Nvidia/HP/Dell/etc.

This post has been edited by saladin7: Apr 27 2009, 11:19 AM

Too much of repetitive questions above.

Please read this topic from the first post. All the answers are there.

mine juz died...about 1 year and 4 months.. shytty GPU..is this got to blame Dell or NVdia?

blame nvidia for mass producing it xD

i owned a 1420 8400M GS 128MB, i just have the GPU problem recently ... lucky is still under warranty. if not i gonna cry already. i call dell, they come my house and replace the motherboard for me ... but what is, the warranty is ending soon. GGness. The tempreture for browsing internet and listen to music is 64 - 63. is it too high ? but for my advise is, if u owned this lappy, PLEASE DUN PLAY GAME USING THIS LAPTOP. after change the motherboard the display output on the monitor is not working, dono what is wrong. i mean after pressing Fn+F8. (Just Using 9 month).

This post has been edited by Ayumi_Hamasaki: May 8 2009, 11:42 AM

pls read the first few posts to understand how the GPU will fail...

doesn't matter if u game or not...

i have this problem after i change the motherboard.
my laptop is 1420

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Added on May 8, 2009, 11:45 ami does, just my ADVISE is better dun game. u did not plat game on it is already overheat already, u still game it, will be more HOT.

This post has been edited by Ayumi_Hamasaki: May 8 2009, 12:00 PM

There's no Apple notebook line with that particular graphic chip. Perhaps you're referring to the 9400M? That is an integrated chip.

I notice that 8600GS notebooks that came after Oct last year have a lower breakdown rate, as is the case with my BenQ S41.

What is your load temp?

my S41 changed the GPU in Jun 08, Dec 08 and Mar 09...

fired an email to BenQ once to enquire abt my GPU... and they claim that the GPU installed in Mar 09 is a new revision...

let's juz wait and see...

You know..if don't game, what's the point of having a graphic card? It's like saying "I have a GTX295 and I only use it for Excel because I want to prolong the lifespan of the graphic card!"...

IMO, this issue is due to heat problem. After 1 year of using, a lot of dust will accumulate in your laptop and this will result in higher temp, failing the GPU easier. So, it's better to clean the laptop monthly to provide a better airflow in the laptop. So far, I have seen 2 Inspiron failed (1420 and 1520) and this happened when they are browsing the internet, which does not indicate it only happens if you game.

So far, my Inspiron 1520 (8600M GT) have not spoil yet (and I hope it won't) and I've been stressing the laptop like crazy (OC'ing, benchmarking, folding, etc.) and I do overclock the GC (650/1350/550). And also I didn't use it in an air-con room.

My advice is to download I8kfanGUI to set the fan to maximum speed even if not gaming. Yes, it's a little bit noisy, but if you're listening to MP3, I doubt you can hear it.

welcome to the club...


http://www.hplies.com/


http://forums11.itrc.hp.com/service/forums...hreadId=1274587


for those who have the 91 and 92 series, hold your breath and pray, and home this article is wrong.

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1...bad-bumps-worse

This post has been edited by korety: May 22 2009, 03:25 PM

its aint de heat dude. its the die material. when u learn something, learn it thoroughly or dun bother giving advise.
it just make u sound moronic.

This post has been edited by babyrabies: May 22 2009, 03:52 PM

haiz~ 91,92 is repacking from 8 series.
9300 is a downclock from 8400.

actually a powerful card put inside a small stuff willl cost it easily burn out.
so why dont see 9600GT ....
or more. will it burn out ??

I do like nvidia bcoz it's good in gaming, nice. for ATI i hving some issue with it driver even mobo driver.

I wandering why those OEM dont use twin cooling system and separate the processor from GC. It's too close.

For me all GC had the possibility to burn out.
I wander when i heavy use a notebook under 24 hours cold air will it burn out ? If it do, it may be nvidia problem ^.^

-Hmm, I already pointed this out before, although it's in a more general scope. Please refer here: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/733442.

-BTW, if there's any saying that both ATi (AMD) & nVidia are the same, please note that ATI issues is laptop manufacturer's fault (laptop design level defect/failure), while for nVidia it's their fault (chip design level defect).


Regards.

Hi, I'm new here and one lousy friend of mine brought me here just to exploit my graphic card....

Since I'm seeing this, I have to disagree with this thread. I'm an owner of a dell vostro 1510 with a Nvidia 8400m gs. I bought it a 5 months ago and everything is still fine regardless of whatever things that it was stated here. i know the problem does exist but it's only like 10th in a million if u are me. here is a post that I've made about my laptop about a couple of weeks ago. My blog

And even after overclocking it, it still runs fine in a warm room ( I live in a apartment without any air-cond) so, this is all I have to say for now.

This post has been edited by shippoukitsune: May 23 2009, 10:15 AM

umm a inpiron 1520 with 8600 gt here -__- i dun think my gpu faces the same prob dunno but im glad my warranty is up to 3 years
I've overclocked my gpu a few times for at least 3 hours going before gpu crash but still ok heheheheh no prob so farrr.... have faith people!

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Added on May 23, 2009, 10:23 ambeen using for more then 1 and half a year if anyone asking,

This post has been edited by thahirah: May 23 2009, 10:23 AM

i've changed the mobo three or four times. cant remember d... nw my graphic card already showing signs of dying. i can see fragments of colors when i'm playing gamne (occasionally) or the monitor flickers on and off then recovers.

9400 got this prob anot ?.:S

codename G84M and G86M...

use GPU-Z to check wat is urs...

no problem so far =.=! maybe u guys too rough haha

most of these laptops will fail at around 1.5 - 2 year, some even within the warranty, that means under 1 year, under what ever circumstances, even when you're just typing it will fail. for why it fail, you can read here, here and here.






it more like every laptop with these gpu, i believe that is why the 3 big oems is giving an limited extended warranty to laptops that were affected by these gpu. dell and apple is giving this warranty to all laptops that have these gpu, but not hp. hp will only gives this warranty to selected models, even though the laptop have the same gpu, same symptom ( so far only amd laptops are covered by hp).

This post has been edited by korety: May 23 2009, 08:04 PM

my friend S41 using 8600M GS died about 2~3 months ago...
install new OS... OK
install VGA driver... pooft... KOed

already tried using XP 32bit, Vista 32bit & 64bit...
but still the same..
still BSOD...

using latest driver or not?

both of my lappy using 8600 (Benq S41) and (Dell 1420) 8400 ... the most game that I played crysis and fallout 3 .. so far no problem.. so far

Touchwood and hopes that you are one of the lucky ones and will not have any problem on it .

ameen

My Benq S41 died again, it died once after a year, GC problem. Now it is on the verge of breaking down again after almost a year since repair, this time happened on overseas. My girlfriend is using it now, suddenly one day according to her, the display takes a long time responding to colour changes and mouse cursor reacted slowly. I suspect that it is the GC again though I couldn't comfirm till it gets back to Malaysia.

I secretly hate Nvidia for not being responsible for this fault.

I've been using Dell Inspiron 6400(Graphic ATI Mobility X1400) for 2 years and 9 months now.

Up till now *Touchwood* , it didn't give me any major problem. hopefully the laptop will continue to work flawlessly.

Parts Replaced:

Hinge
Charger
Battery(bought a new one)

those are the parts that have been replaced.

This post has been edited by fillet: May 30 2009, 07:16 PM

there's practically dont have any solution for this graphic proble... all they do now is update the bios so the fan always spin in full speed... but when time go or when time come the problem will come...

So what good mGPU is recomended for mid range laptop ?

depends on how good ur good is and how much u re willing to pay...

GTX 280M is good, G 105M also good... so???

This post has been edited by astria: Jun 1 2009, 09:15 PM

Hi all, has anyone been able to extend warranty on their BENQ? I have benq s41, failed firs ttime just got back few days, i think they change bios to 1.19 (which is unlisted on site) i believe fan runs more (although not noticable - eg. not super noisy)
after 1yr3month it fail

I really want to extend my warranty. Not sure if allow, if not allowed but anybody has argue their way through please let me know. I still have 7months+ original warranty left but still love this system and don't want to part it. I want to support benQ for great machine but only if they allow me to buy extra warranty

nope, there's no way u can do that...

if u try to argue, they merely say that ur GPU is of the latest revision and should not encounter the same problem again...

unless u have an extreme case (eg a few services in 1 yr), they may consider upgrade the hardware for u...

aww
first off thanks for the fast reply astria! I've been very nervous waiting for one hehe.
Do you think the new revision fixed this? how do we know we have new one? When i send my laptop for repair, it took benq 1month1week to send new MB (they say due to manufacturer under pressure so take long) so i think it should be new right?

Does GPU-z tell you anything? it only say release date may 09, 2007

After getting this laptop back I shows how much more i appreciate it. so much cooler than desktop and other netbook/portables

well, my old S41 dun show anything that indicates it has a new part... on GPU-Z it still shows Rev A2 as before...

the release date u mention does not indicate anything as well... merely says 8600M GS is released in May 07...

so wat u can do is either sell it off and get another 1, or pray that it will not spoil again... i chose the first option after servicing 3 times in 1.5 yrs...

aww,
yeah i've thought of that while it happened. Even after repair the technician recommend me to sell too if i cant get extended warranty. But when i get it back and think, this is my first laptop and been very happy.

Cheap stylish gaming system and very sturdy (for the price or to me anyway )

I also like benQ s57 but so expensive. Unless it drop quickly in next 2 months i will have to sell mine and probably buy MSI (I do want to support BenQ but..

Do they still make Benq s42? Here in Aus I hear lots people complain out of stock and no more making

This post has been edited by nerdyfred07: Jun 7 2009, 08:43 PM

yes they do... current one is C2D P8200 with 500GB HDD...

over here it's rm3599 with FreeDOS...

this 8400/8600M is dedicated or integ? how bout 8600gt since my bro lappie using it

dedicated...

8600M GT and 8700M GT are affected as well...

mm much cheaper and bigger hdd than here

my bad, should be P8700...

Thats even better! I meant you guys have it at a much cheaper price than here in aus. It was much cheaper than it is now in aus mid last year but I think its a fading model and almost out of stock they raise price.