Get a jpa loan. Then repay the loan by working with the government for 10 years.

There. You got a job.

u still need to repay the loan even if u work for the government.

i think what u mean is JPA scholarship.

tumpang thread~ Uniten consider as IPTA or IPTS ?

IPTS

IPTA or IPTS is just the same
the curriculum is not much different

but u need to set target for your future career
if let say you wanna involve in IT career, get yourself to institution which is well known in IT so that u get extra points

definitely an IPTS

This post has been edited by Hikari0307: May 5 2010, 04:08 PM

and a well known IT institution is?
MMU?

i am thinking to further my studies in IT.

And we will become slave for 10 years.

10 years ka?

even my PhD contract is only 7 years...

It's not slave, it's paying back, it's your moral duty to serve after getting sponsored for so long and the government spending so much of the people's money on you. Giving back the same amount of money doesn't cover.

10 years contract is only for Medicine,Dentistry and Pharmacy students if I'm not mistaken. It depends on the course. My sister is under JPA scholarship for Engineering and her bond is 7 years.

You guys don't even need to start going to the extent of morality.

It's a contractual obligation. If you don't want to honour the contract in the first place why did you accept the offer. It's just stealing on purpose!

This post has been edited by entryman: Nov 19 2010, 12:12 AM

Ofcoz IPTS having a higher chance to get hired.

And your basis for that is...?

I would say depends....
the graduates from good IPTA like UM are in demand....
but same goes with good IPTS grads like UTP, MMU, Monash, Nottingham...
but most important the employer seek for workers from the uni that takes only bright students to study there...

mostly IPTS with 3 credit oso can enter like SEGi, HELP, Cosmopoint....etc...
are not preferrable..
the education quality that the lecturers gave...sucks!
even the lecturers said that sometimes they falsify the students' result to survive... they advise to study elsewhere..
only good about facilities....education wise....haih...

This post has been edited by violet05: Nov 25 2010, 09:48 AM

IPTS education quality are better than IPTA.
I mean some IPTS, but overall, yes.
I got some friends studying in famous IPTA such as UM, USM, UUM and UTM.
They keep complained that lecturers teach using 65% malay, 35% english.
Most of the IPTA students can't present themselves well enough in english too.
Me myself studying in MMU, although the status of MMU getting lower now to Top 200 only.
But most of us can speak english well enough compare to IPTA students.

And i saw the syllabus in IPTA, their coverage in courses are not so wide as IPTS.
So, private companies preferred IPTS students in most cases.

some of the IPTS' lecturers taught the students in Mandarin too...
does that means that the quality that the lecturers' teaching are not good?

it's not the languange that matters..the INPUT is what matters most.
regardless of what language they use...
there are too many IPTs in msia..outnumbered IPTA far enough...
hundreds emerged rapidly nowadays...

most of the students who are rejected from IPTA have no choice but to join IPTS....
but those who study in IPTS only merely can join IPTA...
so basic thinking, which is better??

yes of course there are some really bright students who prefer to join well known IPTs like
Monash, Nottingham, MMU...

but for the majority of the IPTS...no quality!!!
emerging rapidly not for the motive of educating ppl.....

but as i said, it depends....
some of IPTA are good, some IPTS better than IPTA...
MMU is one of a good IPTs in M'sia
but most of the IPTS

This post has been edited by violet05: Jan 30 2011, 11:17 AM

what a load of bull. u based all that on what your friends said?

which ranking is MMU in?

This post has been edited by azarimy: Nov 25 2010, 11:03 AM

just to share....
if you ppl judge on the ranking side...
MOST of the UK and Aussie Degrees that the IPTS are offering
like degree from Uni of Greenwich, Uni of East London, Uni of West England, Uni of Curtin, Uni of Victoria,
Uni of Wollonggong, RMIT, Uni of Hertfordshire, Uni of Stafforshire, Uni of Abertay dundee, Uni of Oxford Brookes, Anglia Ruskin, Shieffield Hallam, Uni of Teeside, etc...(too many to name)

these unis ranking are lower than UM,
and most of them below USM, UKM and UPM as well.
don't understand why students of IPTs from these programmes are too proud of saying they are UK uni grad
what's come to worst, some of the syllibus are not the same with parent's uni s well.

they dun do research???

note:MOST of the prgramme not ALL...
eg: UOL, Lancaster, Brimingham are top uni in the world., abv UM.

This post has been edited by violet05: Jan 30 2011, 11:19 AM

i think apart from reputation wise, the language they use to teach is fairly important especially for fields like business.. being taught in english will have an added advantage as this will brush up the student's command of the language in order to prepare for their work life..

furthermore, it is generally known that IPTS like Monash, Sunway, Taylors are more in tune to the industry where their syllabus content are decided with consultation and input from the industry leaders...Sad to say the public uni are not so where politics interfere with the efficient running of the uni...

this is why so many top firms have standing arrangement to recruit on campus from IPTS

IPTS are run by business people who have little interest in academic prowess. what they do at the top level is sign an agreement with top firms so that those firms will recruit their graduates upon graduation. all they need to do is comply with what the top firms want.

this is called industry grip on academia, something a university should avoid. if the industry is doing something wrong, the academia have the responsibility to counter the balance. if the industry have a strong grip on the kind of graduates the university is producing, then they're just producing slaves and have no control over the world of knowledge.

which is why IPTAs are now opting for more international staff and students, with emphasis on post graduate studies.