Yup agreed, partly also depends on what IEM you're using. Like when I'm using Creative EP630. SQ on Sony X series and iPhone doesn't differ much xD
SoundMAGIC IEM Appreciation Thread, Listenin magic sound, Feeling SoundMAGIC
SoundMAGIC IEM Appreciation Thread, Listenin magic sound, Feeling SoundMAGIC
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Nov 14 2009, 02:08 PM
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Yup agreed, partly also depends on what IEM you're using. Like when I'm using Creative EP630. SQ on Sony X series and iPhone doesn't differ much xD
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Nov 14 2009, 02:56 PM
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QUOTE(chicaman @ Nov 14 2009, 12:47 PM) no doubt sony EQ is good, HOWEVER, i would like player that do not have to alter the EQ to have good SQ. Same goes to IEM, if u need to tweak the EQ to get a SQ that sound nice to you, then it is not the ideal IEM for u already hey i did say that Sony's EQ are good but i didnt alter the EQ. I set my EQ to none ... the PL21 sounds good with it... may i ask u a question? can let me copy ur collection? XD After burning in for 10hrs of my PL21 , i realised a lot of difference... overall SQ are more well-balanced now... Added on November 14, 2009, 2:58 pm QUOTE(ClieOS @ Nov 14 2009, 01:51 PM) iPod isn't totally bad. At least you will get line-out - get a good portable amp and you will have yourself a relatively good setup. Haha , remember to post a review of PL21 bro.. i would like to see what you think about it ... Just placed an order on PL21, hopefull will see it soon. to me it sounds really good for budget IEMs This post has been edited by choon hon: Nov 14 2009, 02:58 PM |
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Nov 14 2009, 07:39 PM
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QUOTE(chingwooi @ Nov 14 2009, 02:08 PM) Yup agreed, partly also depends on what IEM you're using. Like when I'm using Creative EP630. SQ on Sony X series and iPhone doesn't differ much xD Mmhmm i think it's because EP-630 has it's own definitive "sound signature"So whatever comes from the source, will sound like ep-630. i know it doesnt really make sense but yeah. Whereas for soundmagic it plays exactly what the source is sounding like. And the "sound signature" follows the source more than the IEM itself. Poor source will reveal it's flaws clearer IMO. QUOTE(choon hon @ Nov 14 2009, 02:56 PM) hey i did say that Sony's EQ are good but i didnt alter the EQ. I set my EQ to none ... the PL21 sounds good with it... Yeah man, no EQ better.After burning in for 10hrs of my PL21 , i realised a lot of difference... overall SQ are more well-balanced now... Added on November 14, 2009, 2:58 pm Haha , remember to post a review of PL21 bro.. i would like to see what you think about it ... to me it sounds really good for budget IEMs In fact having direct pass-through is better, more DSP in the chain causes more loss in sound quality... O.o ClieOS i thought he reviewed it once? |
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Nov 14 2009, 08:31 PM
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Nov 14 2009, 08:53 PM
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QUOTE(andrew9292 @ Nov 14 2009, 07:39 PM) Mmhmm i think it's because EP-630 has it's own definitive "sound signature" some ppl use 3 Fiio E5 So whatever comes from the source, will sound like ep-630. i know it doesnt really make sense but yeah. Whereas for soundmagic it plays exactly what the source is sounding like. And the "sound signature" follows the source more than the IEM itself. Poor source will reveal it's flaws clearer IMO. Yeah man, no EQ better. In fact having direct pass-through is better, more DSP in the chain causes more loss in sound quality... O.o ClieOS i thought he reviewed it once? |
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Nov 14 2009, 09:00 PM
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deal all soundmagic lover..
if now u can get a soundmagic item cheaper than d market price from our beloved forumer,then just get it.. as d price will same to d retail price soon.. i heard that there will be a soundmagic distributor to control d sale in malaysia & singapore(it will located at SG) initially is malaysia & SG each a distributor..but now combine become 1 only their move is wanna to control d price(bcz d price from d seller r various) i'm not sure tis is true o not, just to share with u all wat i heard. This post has been edited by busyman: Nov 14 2009, 09:02 PM |
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Nov 14 2009, 10:37 PM
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so soundmagic is gonna get serious in music business eh?
well we need Head Direct Distributor here in Malaysia!!!! |
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Nov 14 2009, 11:16 PM
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haha..
i think soundmagic is alway serious... btw i wan head direct too, although we stil can buy it through shipping to malaysia.. but it cost 10usd= around RM34.. quite alot i think...@@ |
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Nov 14 2009, 11:19 PM
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In many way SoundMAGIC has grown large enough that they will have to become very 'formal' in handling their distribution network. I hope they won't over-control it since they did rely heavily on the internet back channel for sale in the pass. While it is an overall good thing that future customers get better service from official distributor, I like to see a bit of freedom as well.
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Nov 15 2009, 11:29 AM
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Yeap its good if there is distributor in m'sia.. haha
Where to get Head Direct? gotta buy it online ?? just curious though... |
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Nov 15 2009, 12:13 PM
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haha, d SG distributor will control between SG & malaysia, so it not a problem..
as for d HEAD direact, u nid to buy it on9.. shipping to malaysia for a IEM is just usd10.. |
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Nov 15 2009, 12:50 PM
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Hmm, would my PL-30 perform better if paired with an E5?
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Nov 15 2009, 03:07 PM
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Nov 15 2009, 04:15 PM
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QUOTE(choon hon @ Nov 15 2009, 03:07 PM) It would be better as it will enhance the bass in terms of quantity and quality... I'm okay with the bass of PL-30 lar bro ; ) I think you can search through the garage sales as i remembered there's some ppl talking about the E5 with PL30 there.. Have been burning in using a pure sine wave tone @ 25Hz, 45Hz and 90Hz for the past 20 hours, it really bring out the bass a lot... Then use frequency sweep 125hz-0hz/120sec to smooth out the range now total burn in time around 100 hours edy, another 25hrs it should be settled down...using BurnInWave generator http://www.burninwave.com/ Just wanna know whether the PL-30 needs an amp to perform better or not. I read somewhere it's related to impedance and resistance electronics stuffs etc and i suck at that shit. Anyone using an E5 on their SoundMagic IEMs? This post has been edited by andrew9292: Nov 15 2009, 04:24 PM |
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Nov 15 2009, 06:40 PM
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QUOTE(andrew9292 @ Nov 15 2009, 04:15 PM) I'm okay with the bass of PL-30 lar bro ; ) Haha i thought u said that the PL30 is really lacking of bass.. Well , maybe its due to the mp3 ur using currently.. Have been burning in using a pure sine wave tone @ 25Hz, 45Hz and 90Hz for the past 20 hours, it really bring out the bass a lot... Then use frequency sweep 125hz-0hz/120sec to smooth out the range now total burn in time around 100 hours edy, another 25hrs it should be settled down...using BurnInWave generator http://www.burninwave.com/ Just wanna know whether the PL-30 needs an amp to perform better or not. I read somewhere it's related to impedance and resistance electronics stuffs etc and i suck at that shit. Anyone using an E5 on their SoundMagic IEMs? 100 hrs already? so fast..... |
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Nov 15 2009, 07:22 PM
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QUOTE(choon hon @ Nov 15 2009, 06:40 PM) Haha i thought u said that the PL30 is really lacking of bass.. Well , maybe its due to the mp3 ur using currently.. Yeap on Ipod shuffle it sucks, weak muddy bass and narrow soundstage. Sucks more than my SC or lappy or even SE Walkman phones =.- Even 7 year old soundblaster 5.1 wins it =.-100 hrs already? so fast..... Hows your PL21 now compare to X-series stock? I know haven't burn in, but still. comment abit ? This post has been edited by andrew9292: Nov 15 2009, 07:24 PM |
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Nov 15 2009, 10:12 PM
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QUOTE(andrew9292 @ Nov 15 2009, 07:22 PM) Yeap on Ipod shuffle it sucks, weak muddy bass and narrow soundstage. Sucks more than my SC or lappy or even SE Walkman phones =.- Even 7 year old soundblaster 5.1 wins it =.- Oh, still in the burning process , so far 10hours already.Hows your PL21 now compare to X-series stock? I know haven't burn in, but still. comment abit ? Ermm.... just a rough idea about this PL21 so ; Soundstage: Not bad but of course not as good as the PL30 , much better than the Sony's stock NC earphones.. Comfort: IEM really light , feels comfortable... Isolation: I felt it depends on the eartips you are using. Im using the smallest tips that was provided and noise isolation about the same like your PL30 SQ: Quite good in terms of highs,mids,bass( Definitely better =D). Clarity: After burning in for 10hrs , i realised the sound are more well-balanced and clearer.. i could hear every instruments clearly... The rest i'll leave it to Clieos ... haha This post has been edited by choon hon: Nov 15 2009, 10:16 PM |
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Nov 15 2009, 10:16 PM
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QUOTE(choon hon @ Nov 15 2009, 10:12 PM) Oh, still in the burning process , so far 10hours already. how if it compare to pl30??Ermm.... just a rough idea about this PL21 so ; Soundstage: Not bad but of course not as good as the PL30 , much better than the Sony's stock NC earphones.. Comfort: IEM really light , feels comfortable... Isolation: I felt it depends on ur eartips you are using. Im using the smallest tips that was provided and noise isolation about the same like your PL30 SQ: Quite good in terms of highs,mids,bass( Definitely better =D). Clarity: After burning in for 10hrs , i realised the sound are more well-balanced and clearer.. i could hear every instruments clearly... The rest i'll leave it to Clieos ... haha |
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Dec 3 2009, 08:36 PM
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Just got my PL11 from maninkl today. Quick 5-minute test straight out of the box, the soundstage is really really narrow compared to my JVC FX33 Marshmallows. The highs are also lacking, but there's aplenty of bass. This PL11 is definitely meant for bassheads. Hopefully the highs and soundstage will improve after burn in...
FYI I'm pairing this with my MuVo V100 while awaiting my Clip+ to arrive. Added on December 3, 2009, 9:26 pmOK, after changing the tips to M size from the S size that came as default, the bass has reduced and highs increased. I think I might have stucked them too deep into my canals earlier which is what I usually do with my Marshmallows. There's still room from improvement so let's see how it goes... This post has been edited by chewkl: Dec 3 2009, 09:26 PM |
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Dec 8 2009, 05:51 PM
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How's the sound of PL-50 compared to fischer eterna?
When I use the eterna to listen to some lower quality music files like those downloaded from Digi Music service, I'm annoyed by how poor it sound. Is Eterna unforgiving on poor sources? I read that PL-50 is more forgiving on poor sources, what's your opinion on this? One more thing is PL-50 practical to use outdoors, like be able to put on fast and it won't break seal that easily? Sorry for so many questions |
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