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post Dec 5 2009, 08:02 AM

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post Dec 5 2009, 04:57 PM

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Guys i was following this thread and get to know that Parallel 4.0 is one of the best software to use.

I have a few questions:
1) How does this Parallel uses the resources of my current ram n proc? (Alu MBP 2.26Ghz with 4GB Ram)
2) Am i able to use Parallel to do p2p?
3) Let say i install p2p software at my Ext Hdd and uses Parallel to run is it ok?
4) Will Parallel slow down my overall system performance? / Increase the heat issue?
5) Does Parallel able to play some simple "Online Games"
6) From Apple website many ppl giving negative feedback on Parallel UI and the messy files and applications. Is this true?

From all the questions above, does bootcamp serve my need better or i should stick with Parallel?

Main usage: p2p and Online games that will not hang/slow down my system

Thanks!
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post Dec 5 2009, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(terencetoo @ Dec 5 2009, 04:57 PM)
Guys i was following this thread and get to know that Parallel 4.0 is one of the best software to use.

I have a few questions:
1) How does this Parallel uses the resources of my current ram n proc? (Alu MBP 2.26Ghz with 4GB Ram)
2) Am i able to use Parallel to do p2p?
3) Let say i install p2p software at my Ext Hdd and uses Parallel to run is it ok?
4) Will Parallel slow down my overall system performance? / Increase the heat issue?
5) Does Parallel able to play some simple "Online Games"
6) From Apple website many ppl giving negative feedback on Parallel UI and the messy files and applications. Is this true?

From all the questions above, does bootcamp serve my need better or i should stick with Parallel?

Main usage: p2p and Online games that will not hang/slow down my system

Thanks!
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1) u can choose how much RAM the VM can use. maybe u can assign 2gb for it since u have 4gb RAM. for proc u can choose 1 core or 2 core, but honestly i dont know how it works tongue.gif
2) i didnt use p2p 4 a long time, but should be fine. can specify what p2p? can help try 4 u 1st
3) also not sure about p2p, but i managed to run some portable apps from a USB drive. when connecting a USB drive, parallels will ask u want to connect to Mac or VM. even u connect to Mac, u can easily connect it to the VM later on without ejecting it. what i normally do for drives is to juz connect to Mac, because u can actually browse to the drive from the VM. pretty neat smile.gif
4) system slow down is confirm got one la ;p but u have 4gb ram it wont be too bad for winxp or win7. as for heat, i didnt check my temperature but my fan doesnt suddenly spin loudly.
5) u mean flash games? yes. if u mean like 3d games, only a few can run smoothly.
6) i think those messy stuff they mentioned is like when u right click and Open with a file in OSX...even windows programs are listed as well, n u can even set certain files to defaultly open in a windows app. for example, i can set .DOCX files to open in office2007. so when i doubleclick it, parallels will auto launch, then launch office07 to open my file. but i prefer to do this myself.

obviously running 2 OS is definitely going to slow down any system a bit. but i think u're better of with parallels cuz of p2p. if u p2p in bootcamp...then u cant access OSX at all without disrupting ur download, so u're stuck in windows until ur download completes..which kinda defeats the purpose of buying a mac in the 1st place. better let it download while u're in OSX.

but for ur online games..can specify what game? anyway i think its best 4 u to download a trial. its fully featured, runs exactly is how it'd be if u bought one. then u can test everything u want smile.gif
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post Dec 5 2009, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(dvlzplayground @ Dec 5 2009, 05:50 PM)
obviously running 2 OS is definitely going to slow down any system a bit. but i think u're better of with parallels cuz of p2p. if u p2p in bootcamp...then u cant access OSX at all without disrupting ur download, so u're stuck in windows until ur download completes..which kinda defeats the purpose of buying a mac in the 1st place. better let it download while u're in OSX.

but for ur online games..can specify what game? anyway i think its best 4 u to download a trial. its fully featured, runs exactly is how it'd be if u bought one. then u can test everything u want smile.gif
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Hi dvlzplayground,

I just though some extra questions and u have answered for me! biggrin.gif
First of all, i would not like to share p2p issue is illegal blush.gif but thanks for helping..

Hence while i was thinking the same prob ( the cheapest way) of bootcamp, coz if i would use p2p i will not access OSX while downloading therefore i might sacrifice my purpose of getting Mac Machine.

Regarding online games, is call http://eco.runup.com.my/en/05-download/05-01-01.php and Maple story just to join the crowd

Another things is when booting OS X does my resources e.g. processor and RAM goes back to default settings? or is already partition 1 core and 2GB RAM for Parallel?


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post Dec 6 2009, 02:30 AM

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QUOTE(terencetoo @ Dec 5 2009, 10:07 PM)
Hi dvlzplayground,

I just though some extra questions and u have answered for me!  biggrin.gif
First of all, i would not like to share p2p issue is illegal  blush.gif but thanks for helping..

Hence while i was thinking the same prob ( the cheapest way) of bootcamp, coz if i would use p2p i will not access OSX while downloading therefore i might sacrifice my purpose of getting Mac Machine.

Regarding online games, is call http://eco.runup.com.my/en/05-download/05-01-01.php and Maple story just to join the crowd

Another things is when booting OS X does my resources e.g. processor and RAM goes back to default settings? or is already partition 1 core and 2GB RAM for Parallel?
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the emil chronicle game.. suggested specs for graphics is 7300gt or radeon 9660... those are mid-range directX 9 days.. should run fine smile.gif maple story im not sure, but if i remember right the graphics is 2d?

yes the proc n RAM will go back to default settings after u quit parallels. also, i think p2p is not necessarily illegal...even microsoft use p2p to spread win7 beta few months ago smile.gif

go download the trial!
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post Dec 6 2009, 11:18 PM

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just visited Epi Centre,

No more Parallel Desktop 4.0...now they are waiting stock for Parallel Desktop 5.0
Read some reviews on Apple Online, it seems PD 5.0 run smoother than 4.0?
Any feedback on PD 5.0? so far i see most of you guys using PD 4.0 is that so?

Anything i need to consider using Parallel Desktop?

Thanks in advanced!
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post Dec 7 2009, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(terencetoo @ Dec 6 2009, 11:18 PM)
just visited Epi Centre,

No more Parallel Desktop 4.0...now they are waiting stock for Parallel Desktop 5.0
Read some reviews on Apple Online, it seems PD 5.0 run smoother than 4.0?
Any feedback on PD 5.0? so far i see most of you guys using PD 4.0 is that so?

Anything i need to consider using Parallel Desktop?

Thanks in advanced!
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I use PD5.0.. Indeed it is smoother than PD4.
finally now you wont see experience rating of 1.0/2.0 on vista/win 7... mine is 3.7.
on top of that, aero works like a charm.. even in coherence mode.. very nice indeed.
worth upgrading.


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Cool! Guess i got to read more on PD 5.0
What application u guys using for PD? normal read/write windows files? or some major software that needs to run .exe?


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post Dec 7 2009, 09:49 PM

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i need microsoft word 07, excel 07 n autocad tongue.gif

but now using Fusion 3...seem more or less the same as PD5... but much better than PD 4 i was upgrading from
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post Dec 8 2009, 12:07 AM

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hi guys..jus a Q..m migrating to MBP after christmas..
as my company has volume licensing for XP n office, will need it for my work

i understood it will run well in PD..
lets say i bootcamp de xp, will i be able to access it via PD? (cant seems to find ans in this thread, not sure other)
or i still need another installation? a.k.a. 1 for bootcamp n 1 for PD
reason is i still play valve game, l4d n l4d2..that is best with bootcamp
but i jus need PD for my work

thx

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post Dec 8 2009, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(razr_sped @ Dec 8 2009, 12:07 AM)
hi guys..jus a Q..m migrating to MBP after christmas..
as my company has volume licensing for XP n office, will need it for my work

i understood it will run well in PD..
lets say i bootcamp de xp, will i be able to access it via PD? (cant seems to find ans in this thread, not sure other)
or i still need another installation? a.k.a. 1 for bootcamp n 1 for PD
reason is i still play valve game, l4d n l4d2..that is best with bootcamp
but i jus need PD for my work

thx
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Yes, you can access your bootcamp with PD ~
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post Dec 8 2009, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(razr_sped @ Dec 8 2009, 12:07 AM)
hi guys..jus a Q..m migrating to MBP after christmas..
as my company has volume licensing for XP n office, will need it for my work

i understood it will run well in PD..
lets say i bootcamp de xp, will i be able to access it via PD? (cant seems to find ans in this thread, not sure other)
or i still need another installation? a.k.a. 1 for bootcamp n 1 for PD
reason is i still play valve game, l4d n l4d2..that is best with bootcamp
but i jus need PD for my work

thx
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looks like u've done ur homework. kudos smile.gif

its ur choice. u can make a separate windows installation in PD, or u can tell PD to make a virtual machine based on ur boot camp partition (in this case, obviously u have to boot camp 1st). if separate, it will be a brand new installation and have nothing to do at all with ur boot camp partition. legally u need 2 windows license for this. the advantage of this is u wont have to specify how big the windows partition is since no partitioning is involved.

if u make VM from boot camp, it'll be exactly like ur bootcamp partition with all the programs u installed. also, whatever changes u make when running windows in PD, it will show up in boot camp. and vice versa. u'll only need 1 windows license here, n save disk space as well. but once u set how big the windows/bootcamp partition is, u cant change it (from what i know, maybe there are methods to do this).

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thx for de clarification, will be dedicating 120gb for de bootcamp s it's onli work related
my office lappy only tak 30gb I think from de Dell they gave me
though they change lappy every 4yrs but I'vei seen mac live longer then tat
plus I jus love my valve acc..l4d series + HL series

jus wanna make use as little space as possible fir de xp n office
s long s I can PD it for my work n BC it for game in small space footprint is good enough



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post Dec 8 2009, 10:01 AM

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I have PD on my new macbook which only have 2gb ram. Kinda feel lag after open Autocad program under Windows 7.
What about if i reformat to Windows XP? Can reduce lag?
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I'm on Mac OS X 10.4.11 (Tiger), and I would love to have Linux on my system alongside OSX. How would I go about doing it? As for the distro, don't know if it matters, but Ubuntu maybe?
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Does bootcamp support 7 yet?
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QUOTE(SIWIS @ Dec 8 2009, 10:01 AM)
I have PD on my new macbook which only have 2gb ram. Kinda feel lag after open Autocad program under Windows 7.
What about if  i reformat to Windows XP? Can reduce lag?
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autocad on WinXP feels faster to me compared to win7. the MINIMUM ram requirement for windows7 is already 1gb. if winxp, 256mb also no problem

QUOTE(Playboy21 @ Dec 8 2009, 02:37 PM)
I'm on Mac OS X 10.4.11 (Tiger), and I would love to have Linux on my system alongside OSX. How would I go about doing it? As for the distro, don't know if it matters, but Ubuntu maybe?
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google these two softwares: Parallels Desktop 5, and VMware Fusion 3. those are virtualization apps that let u run other OS within OSX. both website are very helpful in showcasing what u can do with the apps, and u can also download a trial. just pick either PD or Fusion (both are very good) and install ubuntu

QUOTE(BlueBerry~ @ Dec 8 2009, 02:47 PM)
Does bootcamp support 7 yet?
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not officially, but possible
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Alright, thanks man, will look through them right away.
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post Dec 9 2009, 04:39 AM

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hie guys, so best to use win xp is that so...
haven read on VMFusion how good is to compare to PD 5.0
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How can I change to windows xp if I already install Win7 on PD? How to reformat?

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