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 is using the smith machine alright?, for building strenght or muscle

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JonYeap
post May 17 2009, 12:14 AM

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darkie's level is a totally different level.
he has been training for a decade.
well, i somehow feel harder to bench press using a smith machine compared to normal bench press.
is it coz of the friction on the slides of the machines?
or the angle which i push is making it harder?
or... the smith machine in mmu melaka gym sucks. =.=
hahaha...

i can bench press around 70kg 10-12 reps, but i cant do incline smith 60kg.
i get so frustrated... maybe i need to figure out why...
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post May 17 2009, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(D_Predator @ May 17 2009, 11:12 AM)
ya la..why is it when i tried to do my incline i feel kinda weak..i'm sad to say that even if i put 25kg on each side for smith machine..i canot tahan la..is sumthing wrong with my technique?or am i lifting the wrong weight?or is it that's my limit to push is only 25kg per side?..damn..u guys are strong la..
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i can do 70kg 12 times on normal bench press.
but i cant even do incline smith 45% for even 60kg.
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post May 17 2009, 11:56 AM

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yeah... 70kg for all...
incline around 50kg... =.=
hahaha
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post May 17 2009, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(D_Predator @ May 17 2009, 12:06 PM)
nice..wait till we hear how heavey darkie bench press and incline..hahaha..pengsan..
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u can see his journal for his normal workouts.
bout his 1rm, i not sure its in there or not...
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post May 17 2009, 12:48 PM

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1RM = 1 rep max...
meaning if u can bench press 80kg for 1 time only...
then thats ur 1RM.
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post May 17 2009, 05:16 PM

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320lbs-340lbs. =.=
haha... have u tried ur 1rm?
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post May 17 2009, 06:51 PM

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round it up, its 130kg.
so his 1RM would be 150kg or so
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post May 19 2009, 01:51 AM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ May 19 2009, 01:36 AM)
That's because they try to lift too heavy too fast. And they don't use correct form even if they're using sufficient volume. They do half assed reps or cheat too much. Then the accessory muscles get more worked more than the target muscles. You know how much was my starting incline bench? The bar alone. My starting dumbell press, 20pounds. When you do proper form, you may feel like a pu$$y with such baby weights but the target muscle gets hit and your strength gains come MUCH faster compared to half assed rep strength progression. Hypertrophy first always, that's our target, BUT the strength will come. Which is why people like Ronnie Coleman and Dexter Jackson can hold their own among powerlifters. Which is why i can hold my own among the powerlifters at my gym. And the public gym i work out at have a lot of hardcore people.

Heavy weights yes, but done with proper form.
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very true...
been looking around in my gym and i notice the same thing.
i guess many of us like to go heavy due to ego also.
wanna push as much as we can as fast as possible.
when i started 2 month ago, i was the same.
but i not going to bother bout the weights anymore instead learn how to feel.
will test my max reps once a month, but most of the time will go high reps.
thanks for the advise. =.=
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post May 19 2009, 02:13 AM

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hehe... guess he really is ur foundation of ur body building heh?
hehe... well, starting next week, i am going to train hard.
oh ya... bout this topic again...
hahaha... anyone has any say on smith machines?
i feel its kinda hard to squat using smith.
maybe i am doing it wrongly.
i normally squat freeweights.
hmm... darkie, u use smith to squat rite, wat would u say in comparison to the freeweight squat?
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post May 25 2009, 10:33 PM

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wow... i am wondering the same.
if he says he dumbell bench press, then salutes!
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post May 26 2009, 12:37 PM

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time to increase the weight.
try doing 10 reps for 3 sets.
if u can do that with ease, then increase a few kg.
if u cant maitain 10 reps each set for 3 sets, then reduce a little.


Added on May 26, 2009, 12:48 pmjust my opinion...
wait for other seniors to comment... hehe

This post has been edited by JonYeap: May 26 2009, 12:48 PM

 

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