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post Mar 26 2009, 03:47 PM, updated 16y ago

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UKM historians have long studied the history of keris making. What continues to baffle them is the dark origins of the wavy blade.

According to several prominent historians, the blade is made wavy so they cut through the body like butter. This is 100% bullshit! Keris is made wavy not to cut better, but to ward off evil! If ukm historians were more rigorous in their research, they would have learnt that dark magic is rife during the early period of Melaka rule.


(to be continued...)
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post Mar 26 2009, 03:48 PM

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Ward of evil? Hantu also ketawa tgk the keris...
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post Mar 26 2009, 03:48 PM

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post Mar 26 2009, 03:48 PM

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Its a local design to be different from the standard straight blade.
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wavy cos that time no ruler.... so the blades cannot be forged like modern straight blades.

Also, rumour has it that it was forged by gay men
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post Mar 26 2009, 03:49 PM

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its wavy so that if i stab you with keris and pull it out, your intestines will come out with it
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post Mar 26 2009, 03:49 PM

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it's wavy nature has good fengshui
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Keris is wavy so the opponent cannot pull it out so easily if get stab
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post Mar 26 2009, 03:50 PM

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I always thought it was wavy because it's nicer to stab into your enemy's guts.
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QUOTE(firedauz @ Mar 26 2009, 03:48 PM)
Its a local design to be different from the standard straight blade.
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post Mar 26 2009, 03:50 PM

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sumore keris is dagger class. use by rogues. one hit kill type. kenot fight with the mighty iban sword.
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post Mar 26 2009, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Mar 26 2009, 03:48 PM)
just use machine gun lah
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post Mar 26 2009, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(Squidward @ Mar 26 2009, 03:47 PM)
UKM historians have long studied the history of keris making. What continues to baffle them is the dark origins of the wavy blade.

According to several prominent historians, the blade is made wavy so they cut through the body like butter. This is 100% bullshit! Keris is made wavy not to cut better, but to ward off evil! If ukm historians were more rigorous in their research, they would have learnt that dark magic is rife during the early period of Melaka rule.
(to be continued...)
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i heard of a story that the maker is recklesss and donno how to make the blade straight as the usual sword and rapier. that's why they came out wavy and pendek sweat.gif

another story is they purposely make it so the wound inflicted is more peril than typical straight sword and sabre. imagine you stab and pull it out, with the wavy blade pull out the flesh along sweat.gif


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post Mar 26 2009, 03:51 PM

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it's wavy shape is to inflict more damage
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post Mar 26 2009, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(edwardstevens @ Mar 26 2009, 03:49 PM)
its wavy so that if i stab you with keris and pull it out, your intestines will come out with it
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true, the wavy design is to maximise the damage of the person stabbed.
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post Mar 26 2009, 03:52 PM

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Keris look like a gun to me in a way maybe there is a hidden mechanism and trigger within the keris.

Just in case, silat people lose to enemy they use the pistol-keris as their defense mechanism.

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post Mar 26 2009, 03:53 PM

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i heard about this before /..
the wavvy design of the kris is useful when u strike an opponent at the abdomen..
the wavvy design will cause a wound so big tat it destroys the enlignment of the muscle tissue .. causing the would to bleed heavily so that the victim will die in case the victim manage to escape..
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Imagine a keris is stab into your stomach and twisted real hard before it was pulled hard.
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post Mar 26 2009, 03:54 PM

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*wave keris*
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QUOTE(EroS @ Mar 26 2009, 03:51 PM)
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QUOTE(Squidward @ Mar 26 2009, 03:47 PM)
UKM historians have long studied the history of keris making. What continues to baffle them is the dark origins of the wavy blade.

According to several prominent historians, the blade is made wavy so they cut through the body like butter. This is 100% bullshit! Keris is made wavy not to cut better, but to ward off evil! If ukm historians were more rigorous in their research, they would have learnt that dark magic is rife during the early period of Melaka rule.
(to be continued...)
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QUOTE(AngelOfDestruction @ Mar 26 2009, 03:54 PM)
aiya .. terus ambil lembing impale that fella better laa.. laugh.gif .. *juz for the laughs *
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post Mar 26 2009, 04:02 PM

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its actually a gunblade..just like Squall use it tongue.gif
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Keris are made WAVY so that the owner can WAVE it.

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post Mar 26 2009, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(HHH816 @ Mar 26 2009, 03:49 PM)
Keris is wavy so the opponent cannot pull it out so easily if get stab
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Plus the wavy thing to make i pierce more hard & pain,let see if got 16 wavy at the keris,u get 16 pain's...lulz.
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post Mar 26 2009, 04:03 PM

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it has it's purpose brows.gif
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Means Sultan does maximum damage on enemy yo.
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According to History channel, the wave design makes it easier to pull it out from slain bodies, otherwise, straight ones is harder to do that....
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post Mar 26 2009, 04:04 PM

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they even attach kriss at spear .... imagine they use it to stab you, you died immediately...

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i heard the story for samurai to kill it's opponent, they soak their katana with shit and piss to cultivate tetanus, if struck at the enemy, the enemy will be immobilized and drag his comrade along. i wonder if the silat master will do the same to keris to soak it with germs to breed tetanus sweat.gif
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QUOTE
Imagine a keris is stab into your stomach and twisted real hard before it was pulled hard.




thats why dota dont have this item! sweat.gif
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post Mar 26 2009, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(riph @ Mar 26 2009, 04:02 PM)
its actually a gunblade..just like Squall use it  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(pipi_6988 @ Mar 26 2009, 04:04 PM)
thats why dota dont have this item! sweat.gif
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lolz.They should implemented 1.

Dmg >9000
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well

a straight keris = 94 damage
a wavy keris = 94 damage + 6 bonus damage
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post Mar 26 2009, 04:06 PM

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if it's not wavy, this thread won't be created. that's why
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It's used as a vibrator/stimulator lar...like that also dunno meh...

But of course, can only use 1 time. After that ur dead...LOL.
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in b4 keris pawns bruce lee
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this question is like...why normal kite is diamond shape...while our malaysian "Wau" is round...then next? why japanese kite looks like a fish?
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QUOTE(bilabong @ Mar 26 2009, 04:04 PM)
they even attach kriss at spear .... imagine they use it to stab you, you died immediately...

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i heard the story for samurai to kill it's opponent, they soak their katana with shit and piss to cultivate tetanus, if struck at the enemy, the enemy will be immobilized and drag his comrade along. i wonder if the silat master will do the same to keris to soak it with germs to breed tetanus sweat.gif
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Tetanus is from rust, and takes a long time to take effect, part of which is lock jaw.
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Keris is an INDIAN WEAPON .. existing in MAJAPAHIT era

keris came from the javaness word "Ngiris" means to STAB .. as to the shape of the hilt (kayu grip) .. is specially made for the CUCUK (belakang)

this weapon comes from very long history ....
it was meant to assassinate, as the dagger serves as a quick kill
which latter being replaced by katars ... for better concealments

the shape of "WAVY" is designed like a SNAKE
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QUOTE(icyfawkes @ Mar 26 2009, 04:07 PM)
this question is like...why normal kite is diamond shape...while our malaysian "Wau" is round...then next? why japanese kite looks like a fish?
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QUOTE(bilabong @ Mar 26 2009, 04:04 PM)
they even attach kriss at spear .... imagine they use it to stab you, you died immediately...

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i heard the story for samurai to kill it's opponent, they soak their katana with shit and piss to cultivate tetanus, if struck at the enemy, the enemy will be immobilized and drag his comrade along. i wonder if the silat master will do the same to keris to soak it with germs to breed tetanus sweat.gif
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to maintain the keris, owner always soak it with arsenic.. flex.gif
correct me if im wrong notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(bilabong @ Mar 26 2009, 04:04 PM)
they even attach kriss at spear .... imagine they use it to stab you, you died immediately...

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i heard the story for samurai to kill it's opponent, they soak their katana with shit and piss to cultivate tetanus, if struck at the enemy, the enemy will be immobilized and drag his comrade along. i wonder if the silat master will do the same to keris to soak it with germs to breed tetanus sweat.gif
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lol biological warfare
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Solid Snake should use keris than a nromal knife.

It have over 9000 damage on all enemies.
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I'VE GOT THE ANSWER!!!!!


Its made wavy to increase total stab surface area with less material usage! Them old farts are scientists and economists at the same time!

Twice the total stab width at half the price!
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my theory is the dumbfaqs tat made tat useless weapon are some serious dimwitted monkey brained sapien who cant forged anything
straight... were then, still are.
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QUOTE(Squidward @ Mar 26 2009, 03:47 PM)
UKM historians have long studied the history of keris making. What continues to baffle them is the dark origins of the wavy blade.

According to several prominent historians, the blade is made wavy so they cut through the body like butter. This is 100% bullshit! Keris is made wavy not to cut better, but to ward off evil! If ukm historians were more rigorous in their research, they would have learnt that dark magic is rife during the early period of Melaka rule.
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there's this movie i remember watching, Face/Off, Nicolas Cage and Travolta, Cage gave his daughter a knife with wavy edges, the idea was that you stab and then twist the blade(while inside the meat) to inflict maximum damage. The wavy edges "maximise cutting surface" , so to speak.

Besides , in the pendekar movies you always see them using it to stab and thrust, not slice.
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QUOTE(babyrabies @ Mar 26 2009, 04:13 PM)
my theory is the dumbfaqs tat made tat useless weapon are some serious dimwitted monkey brained sapien who cant forged anything
straight... were then, still are.
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which keris u talkign abt brows.gif
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This thread needs pics of keris(mudin)

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no , its simple , since the keris will always be edp ( echant deadly poison ) so when u stab someone , its harder to remove it thus giving more times for the poison to be spread inside the body of the victim.....
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^ graphical differences in damages inflicted from a normal blade (top) and a keris (bottom).
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QUOTE(joe_star @ Mar 26 2009, 04:15 PM)
This thread needs pics of keris
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QUOTE(joe_star @ Mar 26 2009, 04:15 PM)
This thread needs pics of keris(mudin)
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Code : W002
Type : Antique Weapon - Keris Naga
Status : Ready
Price : $829 (Include delivery)

Payment can only use cheque. No Credit Cards, No Paypall.
Only cheque!!

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QUOTE(EmperorMeng @ Mar 26 2009, 04:18 PM)
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that's not a keris ... the blade is straight /jk

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QUOTE(icyfawkes @ Mar 26 2009, 05:18 PM)
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Code : W002
Type : Antique Weapon - Keris Naga
Status : Ready
Price : $829 (Include delivery)

Payment can only use cheque. No Credit Cards, No Paypall.
Only cheque!!
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looks like dildos mate, seriously.... laugh.gif

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QUOTE(icyfawkes @ Mar 26 2009, 04:18 PM)
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Code : W002
Type : Antique Weapon - Keris Naga
Status : Ready
Price : $829 (Include delivery)

Payment can only use cheque. No Credit Cards, No Paypall.
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the blood and bits of internals will be hard to wash off the dragon scales.
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Keris Kecil Cacing Kanil......

Sekedar pengetahuan buat rekan2, keris kecil ini kami tarik langsung secara gaib dari tempat keramat Buni Wangi....keris ini memiliki yoni aura wibawa dan karisma yang sangat tinggi...


Kiarjuna.

http://paranormalmalaysia.forumup.com/abou...almalaysia.html
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i have one wavy question ... why is pubic hair wavy?
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who said Keris is wavy?

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QUOTE(looqsonline @ Mar 26 2009, 05:22 PM)
i have one wavy question ... why is pubic hair wavy?
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QUOTE(looqsonline @ Mar 26 2009, 04:22 PM)
i have one wavy question ... why is pubic hair wavy?
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to optimize another "keris" damage laugh.gif
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so that u dun accidentally stick it up ur ass
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keris being wavy and all is one thing but to take it that wavy way to how they build roads here in Malaysia?
utterly shameful!!!
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QUOTE(icyfawkes @ Mar 26 2009, 04:25 PM)
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Looks like they are mocking the keris. I saw one of them is grinning.
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QUOTE(ismaktalaludin @ Mar 26 2009, 04:28 PM)
dont insult the malays. the Malays of the old days are MUCH smarter than what you think.
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he did not insult .... as the matter of fact Kris is an Indian weapon made to STAB opponents ...

it doesnt matter which place it stabs .. whether it's the heart, skull, throat, or the ass

we DO know Malays days are much older ... everyone's race is OLD
and malays are quick to COPY the indian weapon

same like SILAT

remember HISTORY, dude
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so malay last time smarter than malay now?
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ermm..why is Chinese blade elastic? like those use by the monks...u can see the blade all wiggling and wobbly like jelly...ohh..should i make a new thread abt this? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(ismaktalaludin @ Mar 26 2009, 04:35 PM)
hahaaha. keris an indian weapon?? who are you? a keris evaluator. you are not. I AM.
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el o el?
pic or you know the drill...
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QUOTE(bugijun @ Mar 26 2009, 04:35 PM)
ermm..why is Chinese blade elastic? like those use by the monks...u can see the blade all wiggling and wobbly like jelly...ohh..should i make a new thread abt this? hmm.gif
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chinese blades have lotsa varieties...that was only one type...
1.lighter
2.got sound cool weh~!
3.can slash with light strokes
4.wont break easily

for the lulz la... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ismaktalaludin @ Mar 26 2009, 04:38 PM)
i am a keris collector for 50 years already. i know more. you dont.
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pic?plz write on a paper your nick and put it with your keris...and take pic and post up for proof...if not...your words are pointless ya know...
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QUOTE(ismaktalaludin @ Mar 26 2009, 04:38 PM)
i am a keris collector for 50 years already. i know more. you dont.
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Come on man, you don't have to ask us to drill you. Post the pics.
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QUOTE(bugijun @ Mar 26 2009, 04:35 PM)
ermm..why is Chinese blade elastic? like those use by the monks...u can see the blade all wiggling and wobbly like jelly...ohh..should i make a new thread abt this? hmm.gif
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because it's fake

QUOTE(ismaktalaludin @ Mar 26 2009, 04:38 PM)
i am a keris collector for 50 years already. i know more. you dont.
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if you are so malay, name five famous malay warrior?
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QUOTE(ismaktalaludin @ Mar 26 2009, 04:38 PM)
i am a keris collector for 50 years already. i know more. you dont.
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QUOTE(ismaktalaludin @ Mar 26 2009, 04:43 PM)
ok my words are pointless.
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use wiki,u phailed

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keris

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QUOTE(peinsama @ Mar 26 2009, 03:48 PM)
Ward of evil? Hantu also ketawa tgk the keris...
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For one on one battle maybe good ,if group troublesome after stab hard to take out and other enemy got chance to stab you on back.

Of they can design new model,stab in then press one button it explode with the enemy.
kamikaze style.

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Haha.. keris wavy like ular... sebab ular kuat...
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QUOTE(bugijun @ Mar 26 2009, 04:35 PM)
ermm..why is Chinese blade elastic? like those use by the monks...u can see the blade all wiggling and wobbly like jelly...ohh..should i make a new thread abt this? hmm.gif
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well .. that's MOVIE MAGIC to you .. actually those director uses cheap imitation weapon to do the movies ... and it became a trend ...

actually .. Chinese is the first to find IRON, which at the time, those Romans still using Bronze (copper+tin)
due to the Warring states (3 Kingdom) , the weapon development grew so fast, that the Chinese actually developed STEEL, and the Romans still using Bronze

it may sound funny .. but actually Attila the Hun (barbarian) attacked Romans (and almost destroy Eastern Europe), actually using STEEL vs BRONZE
something like cutting through butter armors .. biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(ismaktalaludin @ Mar 26 2009, 04:46 PM)
uncle is an old man already. uncle not tech savvy to do all that. uncle dah tua lah
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What's the sword that people, mostly the Europe people use? Thin one that is?
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QUOTE(Arkaine @ Mar 26 2009, 05:48 PM)
uncle yg tua sepatutnya tahu tentang sejarah melayu dan asal usulnya... doh.gif
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He's Wong Kok Chong, the last time I heard...
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QUOTE(ismaktalaludin @ Mar 26 2009, 04:45 PM)
according to wikipedia, is hang tuah hang jebat hang lekir hang lekiu hang kasturi hang mokhtar.
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QUOTE(ismaktalaludin @ Mar 26 2009, 04:46 PM)
uncle is an old man already. uncle not tech savvy to do all that. uncle dah tua lah
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WHY NO ONE ANSWER MY QUESTION YET? WHY IS PUBIC HAIR CURLY???
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QUOTE(ismaktalaludin @ Mar 26 2009, 04:49 PM)
alexander the great is actually a Malay. shows how powerful the Malay are once upon time.
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QUOTE(ODST_MARK X @ Mar 26 2009, 04:49 PM)
What's the sword that people, mostly the Europe people use? Thin one that is?
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rapier

not raper ah...

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QUOTE(ismaktalaludin @ Mar 26 2009, 04:49 PM)
alexander the great is actually a Malay. shows how powerful the Malay are once upon time.
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What pokok-kepondanan is it...
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QUOTE(Kam Tze @ Mar 26 2009, 04:52 PM)
rapier

not raper ah...
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Excalibur la...
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QUOTE(looqsonline @ Mar 26 2009, 05:52 PM)
WHY NO ONE ANSWER MY QUESTION YET? WHY IS PUBIC HAIR CURLY???
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IT'S BECAUSE YOU DON'T SIKAT TIAP-TIAP HARI MEH!! biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(looqsonline @ Mar 26 2009, 04:52 PM)
WHY NO ONE ANSWER MY QUESTION YET? WHY IS PUBIC HAIR CURLY???
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QUOTE(peinsama @ Mar 26 2009, 05:53 PM)
Excalibur la...
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Looks like Excalibur mate? shakehead.gif

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quote Wiki "it's curly so you can catch "crabs" with it"
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QUOTE(ismaktalaludin @ Mar 26 2009, 04:49 PM)
alexander the great is actually a Malay. shows how powerful the Malay are once upon time.
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Alexander the Great is a Malay?

you must be dreaming .. if you say he's an Arab, maybe we can believe it .. but MALAY? that time malays are nothing more than the Pirates of Selat Melaka

but no matter, Alexander was poisoned and murdered .. and his whole Roman Empire splits to 2 (which latter Atilla the Hun came to trash it)

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QUOTE(ODST_MARK X @ Mar 26 2009, 04:55 PM)
Looks like Excalibur mate? shakehead.gif

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It looks like, mate.
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QUOTE(Serpentarius @ Mar 26 2009, 04:57 PM)
Alexander the Great is a Malay?

you must be dreaming .. if you say he's an Arab, maybe we can believe it .. but MALAY? that time malays are nothing more than the Pirates of Selat Melaka

but no matter, Alexander was poisoned and murdered .. and his whole Roman Empire splits to 2 (which latter Atilla the Hun came to trash it)
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I thought CHow Yoon Fat(iz it him) is the Pirate of South East Asia?? (refer from POtC...lulz)


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Bila cucuk lagi sakit sbb keris berlekuk2 effect kesakitan tu lebih.
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QUOTE(peinsama @ Mar 26 2009, 05:59 PM)
It looks like, mate.
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Old folks Malay are fisherman lar last time i checked my Sejarah books...lulz.
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Malays are pirates? so who do the Malays steal from? Chinese businessman?
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QUOTE(ODST_MARK X @ Mar 26 2009, 05:02 PM)
I hope you'll get strike by lightning for if you were telling lies.... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ismaktalaludin @ Mar 26 2009, 05:00 PM)
Malays are pirates? so who do the Malays steal from? Chinese businessman?
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actually...Parameswara ran away from Majapahit in Indonesia...so technically Indon? i wonder what happened to the aborigines...?

p/s:Majapahit is from Thailand...

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QUOTE(icyfawkes @ Mar 26 2009, 05:04 PM)
actually...Parameswara ran away from Majapahit in Indonesia...so technically Indon? i wonder what happened to the aborigines...?

p/s:Majapahit is from Thailand...
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pihak pendatang masih tak puas hati ker? lolz
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The keris is a weapon used by the Melayu since the era of the Melayu Sultanates more than 800 years ago. It was used by the pendekars, armies and palace nobility. It was also revered as a ceremonial tool and a symbol of royalty.

Research has shown that the keris originated from the Majapahit empire which ruled in the 13th century. After the decline of the Majapahit, many of its blacksmiths migrated to other areas such as Jawa, the Sumatran islands, the Sulawesi islands and finally to the Melayu Peninsula. The keris developed as a weapon in the Melayu Peninsula up until the point it was occupied by the British. British law banned the wearing of the keris on the body or used as a weapon but only allowed its ceremonial role.

There are many different types of keris, however, the Keris melayu as used by the Melayu normally displays the features of the original Majapahit keris, which has the Jawa Demam hilt and a boat-shaped piece on the sheath.

http://silat-melayu.blogspot.com/2007/11/o...ris-melayu.html

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oi stop the arguement lar,damn forummer,s

Lets chat about Keris back!
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QUOTE(bugijun @ Mar 26 2009, 05:08 PM)
pihak pendatang masih tak puas hati ker? lolz
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QUOTE(Serpentarius @ Mar 26 2009, 04:57 PM)
Alexander the Great is a Malay?

you must be dreaming .. if you say he's an Arab, maybe we can believe it .. but MALAY? that time malays are nothing more than the Pirates of Selat Melaka

but no matter, Alexander was poisoned and murdered .. and his whole Roman Empire splits to 2 (which latter Atilla the Hun came to trash it)
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Alexander was a macedon, not a Roman. Alexander preceded the Roman Empire by nearly 200 years. Alexander did not found or lead the Roman Empire. His empire was carved up by his generals after his death, & they quickly lost power. The Roman Empire came up much later & the actual split between East & West wasnt because "alexander was poisoned". Sheesh, you're the 1 whos in dreamland.
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QUOTE(kliprift @ Mar 26 2009, 05:09 PM)
siape pendatang yang ko cakap nie ?
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saper2 yg terasa laaa...
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Knape Keris pendek?????? Tak cukup besi????

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QUOTE(ismaktalaludin @ Mar 26 2009, 05:06 PM)
so are you saying Malays are the sons of Parameswara? where is your logic?. do you know the malays are great navigators? they have been in the peninsula long before the arrival of Parameswara.
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you didnt read my post properly LOL...thats why i said what happened to the aborigines? so you are trying to say the aborigines are malay instead of coming from the lineage of Parameswera?
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QUOTE(20thCentury @ Mar 26 2009, 05:12 PM)
Knape Keris pendek?????? Tak cukup besi????
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kenapa keris ko pendek? tak cukup zat???

lol..i'm done in this thread... tongue.gif

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QUOTE(bugijun @ Mar 26 2009, 05:12 PM)
saper2 yg terasa laaa...
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ku terasa nie ? ko cakap indon kan, kan kan ?
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QUOTE(20thCentury @ Mar 26 2009, 05:12 PM)
Knape Keris pendek?????? Tak cukup besi????
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Aiya,lazy ar u don wan read previous reply.


It was meant to be use by an assasin becaose its easy to wield & easy to stab people.



Aiyo dont be damn lazy lar
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QUOTE(icyfawkes @ Mar 26 2009, 05:13 PM)
you didnt read my post properly LOL...thats why i said what happened to the aborigines? so you are trying to say the aborigines are malay instead of coming from the lineage of Parameswera?
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QUOTE(Muhammad Syukri @ Mar 26 2009, 05:14 PM)
Aiya,lazy ar u don wan read previous reply.
It was meant to be use by an assasin becaose its easy to wield & easy to stab people.
Aiyo dont be damn lazy lar
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Lazy to filpin the pages lar... hahaha...

"It was meant to be use by an assasin becaose its easy to wield & easy to stab people."
But if the assassin meet with a warrior with long sword.. then the assassin got assassinated... LOL

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yah...stab him with straight keris....haha..waving coz want to do more damage lol...
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I found this keris....

Level: 60
Req Stats: STR50, DEX 100
Attack: 75 (71-80)
Speed: Fast
Job: Warrior, Thief
Effect: -
No. of upgrade available: 7
Sold for: 250,000 mesos


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QUOTE(Error404 @ Mar 26 2009, 05:17 PM)
I found this keris....

Level: 60
Req Stats: STR50, DEX 100
Attack: 75 (71-80)
Speed: Fast
Job: Warrior, Thief
Effect: -
No. of upgrade available: 7
Sold for: 250,000 mesos
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LOLs maple story sweat.gif
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i thought the keris had a wavy blade to cause more damage during entry and exit, enlarging the wound. a straight blade would go out cleanly, reducing the damage.

QUOTE(20thCentury @ Mar 26 2009, 05:12 PM)
Knape Keris pendek?????? Tak cukup besi????
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close quarter combat. lighter and easier to control weapon beats heavy bulky weapon. and not as tiring. can fight longer. use claymore leaves alot of weaknesses and openings during the long swing and follow through, not to mention endurance issues.





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QUOTE(20thCentury @ Mar 26 2009, 05:15 PM)
Lazy to filpin the pages lar... hahaha...

"It was meant to be use by an assasin becaose its easy to wield & easy to stab people."
But if the assassin meet with a warrior with long sword.. then the assassin got assassinated... LOL
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Aduh whaat a question,go read or play Assasin Creed lar.

Its based on the real Assasin at East.

QUOTE(Error404 @ Mar 26 2009, 05:17 PM)
I found this keris....

Level: 60
Req Stats: STR50, DEX 100
Attack: 75 (71-80)
Speed: Fast
Job: Warrior, Thief
Effect: -
No. of upgrade available: 7
Sold for: 250,000 mesos
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Mapletard...lulz
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QUOTE(Muhammad Syukri @ Mar 26 2009, 05:00 PM)
I thought CHow Yoon Fat(iz it him) is the Pirate of South East Asia?? (refer from POtC...lulz)
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that's what we call MOVIE MAGIC ... most of the histories arent the way they are in MOVIES ...
in fact, Malays are great sailors .. as well as pirates ..

even till now (from 3000 years ago) .. the Strait of Malacca is a still a One of the Most busiest Straits in the Whole World


QUOTE(ismaktalaludin @ Mar 26 2009, 05:00 PM)
Malays are pirates? so who do the Malays steal from? Chinese businessman?
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actually no. the first pirating actually documented .. is when the Malay attacked the Admiral Zhang He ... which later got slaughter (coz Chinese had very funky weapons called cannons) and the leader brought back to China to beheaded

the rest also documented a lot ... and Malay rob Gujerat (Islam) ship as well ... they do not choose whether you're Muslim or not

well ... there's Bugis, Orang Laut, Mingakabau, Javanese .. you name it .. since you're malay you should know more bout your histories than me

QUOTE(icyfawkes @ Mar 26 2009, 05:04 PM)
actually...Parameswara ran away from Majapahit in Indonesia...so technically Indon? i wonder what happened to the aborigines...?

p/s:Majapahit is from Thailand...
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well .. but Majapahit Empire is very large .....
Parameswara actually is smarter than others .. and with his Princely status ... he managed to crown himself king, which later became sultan after got influenced by those Muslim traders

aborigines? well .. they stayed in the forest ... not all malays are forest guys ... human population normally concentrated near the shores and rivers




ahh.. for your Indian Keris
http://www.gnwtc.com/swordsip2.htm

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QUOTE(Error404 @ Mar 26 2009, 05:17 PM)
I found this keris....

Level: 60
Req Stats: STR50, DEX 100
Attack: 75 (71-80)
Speed: Fast
Job: Warrior, Thief
Effect: -
No. of upgrade available: 7
Sold for: 250,000 mesos
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Got weapon.. but useless without a martial art????
Silat vs Win Chun... which one win????? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(20thCentury @ Mar 26 2009, 05:22 PM)
Got weapon.. but useless without a martial art????
Silat vs Win Chun... which one win?????  hmm.gif
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Bruce Lee die in the hand of Pendekar Indon...lulz
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hahaha..wrestling win
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great info Serpentarius!!! thumbup.gif
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I proud to own a keris.
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QUOTE(Muhammad Syukri @ Mar 26 2009, 05:24 PM)
Bruce Lee die in the hand of Pendekar Indon...lulz
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He died due to overdose drugs....
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QUOTE(POYOZER @ Mar 26 2009, 05:26 PM)
I proud to own a keris.
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mitu, naise to kopek durian
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QUOTE(20thCentury @ Mar 26 2009, 05:22 PM)
Got weapon.. but useless without a martial art????
Silat vs Win Chun... which one win?????  hmm.gif
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如來神掌wins all.... No weapons required

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QUOTE(Error404 @ Mar 26 2009, 05:28 PM)
如來神掌wins all....
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haha..like kungfu hustle
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QUOTE(Muhammad Syukri @ Mar 26 2009, 05:24 PM)
Bruce Lee die in the hand of Pendekar Indon...lulz
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Silat is no match for one inch punch bro...hehe....
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QUOTE(Error404 @ Mar 26 2009, 05:28 PM)
如來神掌wins all....
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LMAO!!! notworthy.gif
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For non Chinese can read Cakar Sakti to know more about 如來神掌.

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many claim damage more if wavy. u know thats just a myth?

the ular explanation is partially true. Bomoh last time control ular to patuk his victim to death. But if u carry a keris, the ular will be confused.


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i dunno lol...
maybe old ppl dun like str8 keris...
they like bengkok2 1
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straight sword if stab only 50 HP deducted

wavy keris if stab will inflict 80 HP deduction
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He died due to overdose drugs....
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nope. it was 'sawan' sweat.gif
btw, keris bengkok sebab dia x lurus weii laugh.gif
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For non Chinese can read Cakar Sakti to know more about 如來神掌.

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QUOTE(Squidward @ Mar 26 2009, 05:37 PM)
many claim damage more if wavy. u know thats just a myth?

the ular explanation is partially true. Bomoh last time control ular to patuk his victim to death. But if u carry a keris, the ular will be confused.
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its physics at work.
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many claim damage more if wavy. u know thats just a myth?

the ular explanation is partially true. Bomoh last time control ular to patuk his victim to death. But if u carry a keris, the ular will be confused.
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If Science prove this right,the wavy keris because when the keris put with poison,its hard to get rid off the poison from your body because the wound also wavy.


Check back Firedauz posted about this. tongue.gif
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Forget about those Keris thingy la..

Old age item..Long long time ago in the far far away

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it should be wavy type light saber...
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decorative. for a cutting/slashing/stabbing "close combat" weapon. it is only effective against another keris. again a sword or rapier the waves are decorative.
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Kalau keris dibuat hanya sebagai senjata, tidak mungkin ia dibuat seindah ini, kata Mohd. Noordin Ab. Hamid. Apakah keindahan yang dimaksudkan itu hanya bersifat fizikal semata-mata ?



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MOHD NOORDIN menganggap keris sebagai sahabat karibnya.



“WALAU ke mana pun saya pergi saya akan bawa sebilah keris bersama. Saya akan pakai pada badan atau letak di dalam kereta.

“Ia tak semestinya kelihatan pada mata orang ramai,” ujar pengumpul dan perunding keris dan senjata Melayu lama, Mohd. Noordin Ab. Hamid, 58.

Kenyataan ini bukan dilahirkan 50 tahun yang lampau mahupun pada era Laksamana Hang Tuah, tetapi sebaliknya baru-baru ini di pekarangan Muzium Negara di Kuala Lumpur. Katanya lagi, kalau tidak ada keris di sisi, hidupnya terasa sunyi.

“Keris ini sudah seperti keluarga kerana saya kenal dan selalu membelainya. Ia juga kenal saya. Bagi saya keris ialah kawan dan kami banyak ‘berinteraksi’,” kata Mohd. Noordin sambil menunjukkan keindahan kraf buatan tangan itu.

Menyedari kisah keris yang mudah mengundang pandangan negatif, terutama jika menyentuh tentang cara penjagaannya yang kelihatan seperti satu bentuk pemujaan, Mohd. Noordin pantas menjelaskan, keris diperbuat daripada besi yang mempunyai getaran sendiri, sama seperti unsur semula jadi lain iaitu tanah, air, api dan angin.

“Sudah terbukti secara saintifik bahawa unsur-unsur semula jadi ini mempunyai getaran yang kita sebut sebagai semangat.

“Kalau untuk keris semangat ini kita namakan myor. Keris-keris ini hidup, biarpun bukan bernyawa,” tambah anak jati Kelantan ini.



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CARA yang salah untuk memakai keris. Bahagian sampir dan ekor cicak sepatutnya berada pada arah sebaliknya.


Mohd Noordin pernah menjadi hakim bagi pertandingan keris cantik yang pernah dianjurkan bersama Persatuan Seni Purba dan Kraftangan Negeri Kelantan dan Selangor.

Tambahnya, dalam sesebuah pertempuran, keris mempunyai keupayaan untuk memelihara tuannya daripada tercedera. Mohd. Noordin merujuk pengalamannya melihat seorang rakannya yang cuba menembak sebelah lagi tangannya sendiri yang memegang keris.

Jelasnya: “Pistol itu tidak mahu meletup, sedangkan sebelum itu pistol itu dapat berfungsi dengan baik.”

Kata Noordin, yang mewarisi sebahagian besar koleksi senjata lama daripada bapanya yang merupakan seorang hulubalang, keris yang serasi dengan pemakai mempunyai getaran yang positif. Jika dipakai ketika bersosial, maka ramailah yang mudah mesra dengannya.

Jika ada musuh menghampiri, mudah juga orang itu menyerah kepadanya. Dek kerana getaran itu jugalah keris diberi peranan melebihi sebagai satu senjata.

“Ada juga kepercayaan bahawa keris yang mempunyai getaran yang positif (serasi) dapat membantu meningkatkan perniagaan, selain menyumbang kepada kesihatan si pemakai.

“Tetapi jika tidak serasi, sama seperti kita tersalah makan ubat, atau memakai kasut saiz yang salah, ia membawa mudarat atau makan tuan,” ujar bapa kepada empat orang anak ini.

Mungkin bersandarkan alasan itu jugalah golongan bomoh menjadikan senjata lama itu sebagai bahan dalam perawatan.

Setiap kali ditanyakan tentang kesyirikan, Mohd. Noordin menyeringai tersenyum.

“Beginilah. Saya jelaskan dengan lebih terperinci. Keris dijaga dengan membersihkannya dengan limau kerana asid di dalam jus limau dapat membuang karat,” katanya.


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HULU keris mewakili negeri dan negara tempat ia dihasilkan.



Keris yang sudah dimandikan tidak pula dijemur sebaliknya diperasapkan kerana karbon dalam asap daripada bara api dapat membantu mengawet matanya.

Tambahan pula bara api mempunyai hubungan yang rapat dengan mata keris kerana keris dibentuk menggunakan api.

“Memperasap dengan bau-bauan seperti kemenyan atau minyak atar mahupun aromaterapi pula hanyalah untuk memberi bau yang enak agar setiap kali keris dikeluarkan daripada sarungnya, ia berbau wangi dan menyenangkan – sesuai untuk dipakai ketika bersosial.

“Ada juga yang menggunakan minyak untuk memelihara mata keris daripada berkarat. Maklumlah, hinanya besi kerana karat,” jelasnya panjang lebar.

Sambung Mohd. Noordin, kesyirikan timbul apabila ada pihak yang melakukan proses pemeliharaan dengan hanya menurut secara membuta tuli.

Sedangkan setiap langkah yang diambil mempunyai penerangan yang bersifat saintifik.

“Ilmu keris itu penting. Jangan hanya tahu memiliki atau memakai keris. Biarlah ada ilmu yang menyeluruh tentangnya supaya tidak terbawa-bawa atau keterlaluan dalam mempercayai kelebihan satu-satu keris.

“Jangan sampai ia menjadi satu bentuk pemujaan,” pesannya yang pernah berguru dengan tujuh orang guru keris, kesemuanya di Kelantan.

Menyimpan lebih 280 bilah keris di rumah, jelas Mohd Noordin, pemakaian keris juga seperti memadankan baju dengan seluar untuk berlainan acara.

“Kalau untuk bersosial, berniaga, bertempur atau menghadiri majlis rasmi seperti pertabalan dan sebagainya, ada jenis-jenis kerisnya.

“Pilihan dibuat sama ada dengan merujuk jenis bahan dan bentuk atau potongan matanya. Keris untuk bertempur lazimnya lurus dan tidak berluk.

“Tetapi kalau pemakainya seorang lelaki yang budiman, dia akan tetap pakai yang berluk, seumpamanya masih mahu berunding dan tidak terus mahu bertempur,” jelas Mohd. Noordin.

“Ada antara pemimpin kita yang pergi ke majlis pertabalan tetapi kerisnya dipakai dengan cara yang salah. Ia hanya menunjukkan mereka tidak mempunyai ilmu tentang keris.

“Seorang raja atau sultan akan memakai keris dengan hulunya menghadap ke luar kerana ia melambangkan kedaulatannya.

“Sedangkan seorang yang pergi menghadap sultan perlu memusingkan hulunya agar menghala ke dalam.

“Bagaimanapun, bagi pengantin lelaki, hulunya sepatutnya dihalakan keluar kerana pada hari itu dialah raja,” kata Mohd. Noordin sambil menunjukkan beberapa cara keris dipakai secara salah.

“Kalau hendak bertempur, bahagian ekor cicak (pada ganja) sepatutnya menghala keluar kerana jika musuh menepis keris itu, ekor cicak itu dapat mencederakan musuh dan mungkin juga dapat mematahkan serangan musuh.

“Tambahan pula dalam ilmu persilatan, jari kel1ngking merupakan titik kelemahan dan ekor cicak dapat memelihara titik itu,” sambungnya yang menjelaskan hulu keris boleh dipusing kerana dipasang longgar.

Tujuan ia dibiar longgar adalah supaya ia dapat dicabut daripada puting untuk membolehkan kerja pembersihan dilakukan dengan baik tanpa merosakkan hulunya.


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one of my collection. it tastes orang puteh blood before. depends on design lah, wavy or not

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be it wavy or not, its main purpose is to display or stab ppl whistling.gif
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Muzium Sejarah Kuala Selangor, Bukit Melawati (Selangor)




Bukit Melawati


Berdasarkan sejarah, Kuala Selangor telah wujud seawal abad ke 16 lagi. Kawasan lain seperi Jeram, 10 meter dari Permatang di sebelah bertentangan Sungai Selangor juga telah wujud . Kawasan-kawasan ini adalah di bawah pemerintahan Empayar Melaka dan selepas itu pula di bawah pentadbiran Empayar Johor.

Sejarah kubu ini bermula semasa kejatuhan Syarikat India Timur Belanda selepas perang ke-4 Belanda-Inggeris (1780-1784). Apabila pengaruh Belanda sudah hilang, Selangor telah kembali diperintah oleh Johor dan Riau telah menyerang Melaka yang juga di bawah pemerintahan Belanda tetapi gagal. Belanda kemudian menyerang Selangor dan menawan Kuala Selangor pada Julai 1784.

Semasa serangan, Kubu Melawati telah musnah tetapi dibina kembali dan diberi nama sebagai Kubu Altingsburg mengambil nama Jenderal Gabenor Belanda.Setahun selepas itu, iaitu pada 28 Jun 1785, Sultan Ibrahim dengan pertolongan abangnya, Dato’ Penggawa Permatang Mahabijaya (Penggawa Tua) dan Bendahara Abdul Majid dari Pahang menewaskan Belanda dalam satu serangan pada waktu malam. Serangan yang bermula selepas waktu Isyak itu telah berjaya menyelamatkan Bukit Melawati sebelum matahari terbit..Sejak dari hari itu, sehinggalah British mengambil alih kuasa pada tahun 1874, kota ini telah menjadi saksi kepada banyak peristiwa perang.




Senjata dan Baju Zirah Bugis




Keris Jawa



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the ismak guy who claim to kept keris for 50 years and a keris lover is also a skateboarder.. wow!

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=977029&hl=

u are a shame for malays dude!


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its wave cause last time break dancing was happening and the wave was 'the" move. wuahahahha

its wavy because it causes more damage
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how many malays keep keris at home ar.. i think u guys should keep 1... it is deep within ur culture... when show other ppl, at least got something to talk about
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deep within the culture, but nobody makes them anymore. in japan they still have a guild/association for katana makers/forgers, got yearly forging competition to promote the art also.

over here? most popular weapon is the helmet laugh.gif
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I hear it is for easy withdrawal after u cucuk.

The question that u should ask, why so short. The answer lies on secret of thunder cat
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QUOTE(SeLrAhC @ Mar 26 2009, 07:38 PM)
how many malays keep keris at home ar.. i think u guys should keep 1... it is deep within ur culture... when show other ppl, at least got something to talk about
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lol... i remember when i was a child.... i owes think that every chinese know kungfu.... i even ask my eng teacher to teach me his family kungfu.. too much TVB drama i think doh.gif sweat.gif
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You must carry a keris to attend a meeting like an UMNO fella once did.
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one of my collection. it tastes orang puteh blood before. depends on design lah, wavy or not

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you never take care of it properly dry.gif

besides keris = CRITICAL HIT!!!!!
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I know why it's wavy.One naked amoi was sleeping infront of the forger,while he was forgin the keris brows.gif
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QUOTE(kev da man @ Mar 26 2009, 10:21 PM)
but tetanus does not take seconds to poison the body.....
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This thread very informative. Never known so much about keris after 19 years living in Malaysia. Thanks to all the ppl who replied to this thread with information and facts!

Truth is...there are a lot of sayings as how things last time used to be. Such as the origins of Malay. They shared many similarities with cultures around this archapilego. So, there is no single definitive answer to the questions we ask...let's just continue sharing smile.gif
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i just know that mental were that powerful to create weapon.. doh.gif
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this is the outcome of studying dwibahasa ...mind fvked

disember ...december

mental ..metal ...minda ..

fizik.physics, sains sciences etc

hence, english in science and math is correct one
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my theory :

they used to be straight..until the europeans came and fought with them...until every keris bend until so wavy by multiple hits...because keris buatan malaysia(cap ayam)...so from that day onwards...the blacksmiths are lazy to make the keris straight and instead make it wavy...
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about the rusty ...asides the tetanus.

it on the other hand reflected the skill/technolgy of malay blacksmith back then...

european, chinese, japanese were making strong, multi-layers, shinning and stainless swords ..

and malays were making stained short swords
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QUOTE(wilsonjay @ Mar 26 2009, 10:58 PM)
my theory :

they used to be straight..until the europeans came and fought with them...until every keris bend until so wavy by multiple hits...because keris buatan malaysia(cap ayam)...so from that day onwards...the blacksmiths are lazy to make the keris straight and instead make it wavy...
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Aiyo go study back Sejarah.

kthxbye.
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QUOTE(wilsonjay @ Mar 26 2009, 10:58 PM)
my theory :

they used to be straight..until the europeans came and fought with them...until every keris bend until so wavy by multiple hits...because keris buatan malaysia(cap ayam)...so from that day onwards...the blacksmiths are lazy to make the keris straight and instead make it wavy...
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rusty metal/keris is not flexible ...it will crack/break if u try to bend it ...
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most keris u seen rusty is becoz they are fukin old... old katanas and broadsword aren't shiny either
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most keris u seen rusty is becoz they are fukin old... old katanas and broadsword aren't shiny either
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any keris that older than this ??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sword_of_Goujian

completely oxidation/rust is not same as not shinning ...
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^that's one awesome rare sword....

here some good quality ancient keris.... love the bling...
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the 2nd and 3rd freaking prettay. though the scabbards doesn't really measure up to the keris themselves.
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QUOTE(Muhammad Syukri @ Mar 26 2009, 11:03 PM)
wow u really failed in Sejarah,the Portugis fella come after many generation of Sultan lar.
Aiyo go study back Sejarah.

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wavy blade can oso trap other blades and disarm the opponents, if you know how ....

it's is said he best kriss in the word - taming sari keris (which i think displayed in museum right now) has many waves, you know ... the more waves the keris, the more terrer it is smile.gif
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QUOTE(Muhammad Syukri @ Mar 26 2009, 11:03 PM)
wow u really failed in Sejarah,the Portugis fella come after many generation of Sultan lar.
Aiyo go study back Sejarah.

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i think the reason why they make it wavy is because the steel they use last time is of lousy grade.. so if it is straight it will bengkok after hitting hard objects... only a few countries at that time have good quality steel...
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I think it's because the olden days Malay know their sinusoidal graphs and decide to demonstrate their mathematical prowess on their blades.

Also, they got their sine wave quite accurately. +1 workmanship though someone been skimping on other precious metal.
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QUOTE(lovely_named @ Mar 27 2009, 12:02 AM)
I think it's because the olden days Malay know their sinusoidal graphs and decide to demonstrate their mathematical prowess on their blades.

Also, they got their sine wave quite accurately. +1 workmanship though someone been skimping on other precious metal.
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Keris is wavy because .. [go read whatever other people have said above, I'm too late!]
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keris is nais but some people have misused it!
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mana boleh ...nowadays nobody wears this turban already(besides sultans) ...all wear songkok and pizza hat  ..
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QUOTE(firedauz @ Mar 26 2009, 04:17 PM)
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^ graphical differences in damages inflicted from a normal blade (top) and a keris (bottom).
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Actually makes no difference if Stab with a wavy or straight keris, if punctured internal veins any form of blade weapon still does the job.

The way I figure it, the way ppl answer in this thread is just about showing off their E-Cock and Jaga Muka. Correct?
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Mar 27 2009, 03:36 AM)
Actually makes no difference if Stab with a wavy or straight keris, if punctured internal veins any form of blade weapon still does the job.

The way I figure it, the way ppl answer in this thread is just about showing off their E-Cock and Jaga Muka. Correct?
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it takes longer for the wound to heal (and leaves a very deep scar) if you stab someone with a wavy knife and then twist the blade 180 degrees (while still in the meat).
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they say that with the wavy blade, it enhances the aerodynamic of a keris, thus you can draw and swing and stab faster with it compare to pisau or wakizashi in short sword family smile.gif
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wow.... how come such a thread can last for 10 pages wan?
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Simple.

Low quality metal + Low tech blacksmithing = Twisted piece of metal trash.
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QUOTE(Squidward @ Mar 26 2009, 04:47 PM)
UKM historians have long studied the history of keris making. What continues to baffle them is the dark origins of the wavy blade.

According to several prominent historians, the blade is made wavy so they cut through the body like butter. This is 100% bullshit! Keris is made wavy not to cut better, but to ward off evil! If ukm historians were more rigorous in their research, they would have learnt that dark magic is rife during the early period of Melaka rule.
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obviously you don't know anything about history. Ancient people make things that reflects their culture / things that they see everyday.

We chinese swords are long, sharp and pointed. The european broad sword are longer, big and heavy. While the keris is short and wavy.

That represent the size, shape of the men's kuku jiao.

Chinese are long sharp and precise, thats why our kids are educated, clever and highly refined.
European's are obviously big and hairy, as what you can see from the outcome of their instrument.
While the malay, their wavy apparatus comes out with mat rempit, that doesn't know how to ride in straight line, and their maggie mee hair is just as curvy as the keris.


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keris is wavy becos it is always being waved in the air, everytime got assembly.
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Muzium Kota Ngah Ibrahim (Perak)




Kota Ngah Ibrahim, Matang, merupakan kawasan & rumah kediaman Ngah Ibrahim anak kepada Che Long Jaafar, org yg mula2 menemui dan menerokai perusahaan bijih timah di Bkt Gantang, Taiping pd pertengahan kurun ke 19. Dgn penghasilan bijih timah ini, Ngah Ibrahim telah menjadi kaya raya melebihi dr Sultan Perak sendiri. Sultan telah menganugerahkan gelaran Menteri Larut kpd Ngah Ibrahim.

Kemasukan kaum Cina yg ramai telah mengakibatkan banyak tertubuhnya kumpulan kongsi2 gelap antaranya kumpulan Ghee Hin & Hai San. Kedua dua buah kumpulan kongsi gelap ini sering bermusuhan. Begitu juga dgn Kompeni Hindia Timur Inggeris yg ingin campur tgn di negeri Perak utk memonopoli perniagaan bijih timah ini.

Atas ancaman2 inilah, maka kota Ngah Ibrahim dibuat dgn kukuh. Tembok kotanya dibuat dr b'rapa lapisan batu bata setinggi lbh dr 1.5m. Rumah Ngah Ibrahim dibina betul2 di tengah kota ini. Pembinaan kompleks ini dipercayai siap pd thn 1858. Kompleks ini juga dijadikan sbg pejabat & pusat memungut cukai bijih timah di jajahan Larut. Kota ini dihubungkan dgn Kuala Sepetang (Port Weld) dgn jln darat & jln terusan.

Rumah ini juga pernah dijadikan tmpt perbicaraan Dato Maharaja Lela & Si Puntum yg telah membunuh J.W.W. Birch, residen Inggeris pertama pd 2hb Nov 1874 di Pasir Salak. Bangunan rumah Ngah Ibrahim pernah juga dijadikan maktab perguruan yg pertama sblm dipindahkan ke Maktab Perguruan Tg. Malim, Perak. Kemudian bangunan ini dijadikan sebagai Sekolah Rendah Kebangsaan Matang sehingga ke akhir tahun 1970an. Akhirnya kawasan & bangunan rumah Ngah Ibrahim ini dijadikan Pusat & Pejabat Kompleks Sejarah Matang oleh Jabatan Muzium & Antikuiti.




Senjata dan Baju Zirah Bugis




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Thanks for information about Malay weapon
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Senjata Aceh




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Pendekar Aceh & Pengawal Sultan Aceh (Pulau Nias) bersama Pedang , Perisai, Rencong dan Baju Perisai


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QUOTE(HangPC2 @ Mar 27 2009, 12:43 PM)
Senjata Aceh
Peudeueng Peusangan (Hulu Meu Apet)
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Pendekar Aceh & Pengawal Sultan Aceh (Pulau Nias) bersama Pedang , Perisai, Rencong dan Baju Perisai
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Keris Variations



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Pedang Sendeng



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Pedang Jenawi (Borneo Island)



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Keris Moro @ Keris Sundang



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QUOTE(yitjuan @ Mar 27 2009, 09:06 AM)
it takes longer for the wound to heal (and leaves a very deep scar) if you stab someone with a wavy knife and then twist the blade 180 degrees (while still in the meat).
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to my understanding, the power of a wavy keris thrusted into an object is not properly distributed hence the damage is usually not deep let alone twisting it. Unless the twisting will cause the keris to break inside which inflict more internal damage. +1 dmg if the keris was forged with poison attribute biggrin.gif

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Pedang Melayu



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nice info
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Maybe they wanted it to be straight but couldn't and just said 'ah fuggit'.
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keris is used to stab not cut..
but the european pawned them with gunpowder..
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Ayooo, see told u all to read more books, u all play dotard.

Keris is wavy due to copyrights matter lar. Becos almost all sizes and dimension have been pattern and copyright. So no choice have to make a wavy sword lar. Haizz.
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Surprising find at Okinawa temple



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OKINAWA: An ancient blade of a keris found recently at the royal Enkakuji Temple grounds near the 15th century Shurijo Castle might unravel the ties the Malay world had with these southwestern islands of Japan.

As the war-ravaged Enkakuji Temple was being restored, construction workers stumbled upon a protruding porcelain pot handle at a spot where offerings were made to the gods.

The ensuing archaeological dig unearthed nine other items, including the wavy blade of a keris, foreign to this part of the world.


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SOMETHING DIFFERENT: A staff member of the Okinawa Prefecture Archaeological Centre showing the blade of the keris found at the Enkakuji Temple grounds.


Historians believe the keris could be from either Malacca or Java as Okinawa and the its surrounding islands under the old Kingdom of Ryukyus had diplomatic and trade ties with ancient cities and ports in Asia, including Malacca, before it became a part of Japan in 1879.

The blade measuring 22.1cm from the tip to hilt was found without the handle and sheath, as the wooden parts had been destroyed.

According to the Okinawa Prefecture Archaeological Centre officials the blade was found buried along with other items, including a clay plate with carvings of a dragon shaped boat, a glazed pot, a gold-plated door hinge and a metal door skirting.

The castle restoration work started in 1989 and the Shurijo Park was opened to public in 1992 while restoration work at the temple is still ongoing.

Prof Dr Kurayoshi Takara a historian from the University of The Ryukyus said the discovery had not been publicised much and is unknown to people outside Okinawa and Japan.

He believes the discovery of the blade of a keris would spark international interest among historians and archaeologists to determine its origin.

“I personally believe it could have been from Malacca because the Ryukyus Kingdom had started trading with Malacca in the 15th century,” said Prof Takara, who has been to Malaysia and Malacca to carry out research on the ancient ties the Kingdom of Ryukyus had with Southeast Asian kingdoms.

From historical records, Prof Takara said, the Ryukyus had started trading with Siam (Thailand), between 1425 and 1570, Malacca (1463-1511), Patani (Southern Thailand) (1490-1543) and several other areas in Indonesia (Palembang, Java and Sumatra) and Cambodia.

“Records also indicate Ryukyuan junks went to Malacca every year for 49 years and carried out trade with local merchants, Arabs and Indians.

“They would bring gold, silver, copper, tin, and Chinese ceramic from mainland Japan and China and trade them for ivory and wine,” he said, adding that there were also correspondence between the rulers of Malacca and Ryuyukus.

Malacca was also known for its high quality wine (believed to be nipah wine), but later years Ryukyuans started buying it from Thailand when Malacca stopped making it.

Okinawa now has its own rice wine known as awamori and there are about 40 factories producing them.

Prof Takara said the Japan-Asean Exchange Year 2003 is the best opportunity to get students in Asean countries and Japan to carry out research work in understanding the different cultures and history.

He said the printing on fabric, locally known as bingata, is similar to batik printing in Malaysia and Indonesia, but no records had been discovered to show bingata originated from Southeast Asia.

A visit to a rice wine factory located at the foothill of the Shurijo Park revealed that drinking awamori has become an Okinawa tradition.

A awamori factory owner Takeshi Sakumoto said the consumption of the beverage had become part of local culture, with people buying and storing away a bottle or jug of awamori every time a child was born and drink it when the child reached adulthood at 21.


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Well the answer is Darwin's theory(natural selection). Unlike country in the west where war are fought in vast grassland or deserts, our war usually happen in dense monsoon jungle. In the west they have huge log blades and long spears as their main weapon because the use of chariots and Calvary. The keris mostly use in hand to hand battle which happen frequently here. The keris are not meant to cut or decapitate their enemy but to be used in soft tissue area such as the abdomen, arm pit, etc. The silat was an art to kill fast in warfare. Its simple efficient and fast. other martial art like the chinese kung fu, Capoeira are more exhibitionist in nature. Their moves are elaborate and over the top but not very practical in warfare. Modern martial arts are more street fighting than anything else because we have guns now. Exp the Brazilian jujitsu, very lethal in one on one situation but imagine if you to grapple someone one the battlefield.. You would be stab in an instant

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The Tekpi - 'Raja Senjata'




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For the past several months, my constant companions have been two battle-ready Malaysian Tekpis - expertly forged by the hand of guru Jamaludin Shahadan - president of Pertubuhan Seni Silat Sendeng Malaysia.


One of the most interesting aspects of this pair is that they are not identical. While one is more or less standard for Malaysian tekpi, the heavier of them could accurately be described as a “Buginese War Tekpi” having a unique belimbing (“Star Fruit”) shape to the blade. More descriptive photos will follow later. Guru Jamal renders it in English as the "Rapier Tekpi".

Following are some questions that Western pesilat ask regarding this weapon. Answers are from Brother Nadzrin:


" Is it used individually or two ? Is it used against specific weapons as a defensive tool ? "


In Silat Melayu, the tekpi has mostly followed the temperament and ideals of the art, so much so that even while the origins of the tekpi is still hotly debated, the technique employed in Silat Melayu is not, since it is accepted as mostly (if not purely) Melayu in thought and action.

The tekpi is used both as a singular and a double weapon. As a singular weapon, it is used paired with another bladed weapon. In Silat Melayu, the tekpi takes the place of the cumbersome shield in other cultures that don't employ it this way. Therefore, the dominant hand would hold a keris or a parang (I've been told) or in the case of Silat Kuntau Sendeng, a Pedang and a tekpi (this I've seen personally).

In cases where the tekpi is used as twin weapons, one tekpi held in the submissive hand, will act as the defensive (shield) while the other held in the dominant hand will act as the offensive.
In Silat terminology, this is termed Jantan (offensive position) and Betina (defensive position).

In these positions, the Betina will be held in the reverse grip, parrying (not blocking) all incoming attacks, while the Jantan will be held in the outstretched grip as a stabbing and pukulan weapon. In some cases, the Betina will be slightly heavier and the Jantan slightly lighter. It's not even a perceptive problem since most of us have 'softer' left hands than our dominant 'hard' right.

The difference in weight is to balance out the abilities of the two hands, strengthen the left. However, this is an exception and very few silat arts employ this concept anymore. Most
arts use the Jantan and Betina positions interchangeably as in the case of Silat Kuntau Tekpi and Silat Kuntau Sendeng. Therefore, when one is defending, the other is attacking.

This quick change is an extension of the hands' ability to slip between offence and defence, unlike the Keris which depends on the different parts of the weapon to facilitate a defensive or offensive mode.

In very Chinese influenced arts such as the Yunnanese-originated Lian Padukan (there's a great site on it at http://lianpadukan.com please do check it out), the tekpi is held in Jantan-Jantan position, rarely if ever receding to the Betina position. The weapons form is similar to the butterfly knife forms I've seen in Wing Chun (because they're both Southern Chinese styles).

The tekpi is flexible enough to defend against any bladed or blunt weapon. However, its speed and versatility depends largely on the user himself.


Is it used offensively ?


Yes, it is used offensively. The main methods used are Tumbuk (punch), Titik (whipstrike), Pukul (strike), Tikam (thrust), Sebat (whip), Tangkap (trap), Kunci (lock), Patah (break), Hentak (slam), Parang (slash) and so on.

According to my Silat Kuntau Sendeng teacher, guru Jamaludin Shahadan, the Bugis people used to modify their tekpi for war, sharpening the tip of the centre prong to a cone-like shape the length of one jengkal, while the rest of the tekpi remained an octagon shape.

In other cases, the last jengkal on the tekpi actually recedes into a proper blade. Both of these variations are used together with a leather armguard worn on the tekpi hand. Although he has never shown me a sample of this, a couple of years back (it's still around, I can probably get a picture of it to you) we discovered an old tekpi that had this conical shape.

It was a small pair (even I could barely use it, couldn't execute a couple of moves), which seemed strange to me because Bugis are huge-built people. This can only mean that this idea wasn't isolated to Bugis warriors, or there actually was a mini-Bugis warrior running around.


" Are the techniques similar to the use of a golok ? "


I wouldn't know if Malaysian golok techniques are similar to Indonesian style golok techniques since as I understand it, only the Jawa use the golok. Malaysian styles generally resemble Sumatran in technique and temperament.

Most Golok techniques in Malaysia conform to Arabic sword techniques. In Malay they're called Rencong Mengkuang (45 degree uppercut slash), Perpang Gantang (45 degree downward slash), Belah Pinang (a downward centre cut) and Baling Lembing (the thrust). I could be mistaken since most silat use this, but there could also be those that I haven't seen.

Additionally, guru Jamaludin also mentioned that the Madura (very hot-tempered Melayu from Madura) have very high skills in the cabang. I read that the late Donn F Draeger once commented on the Indonesian cabang skill (I don't remember which clan he was referring to) surpassed those of Japanese origin. From the way my teacher tells it, I would suspect it surpasses Malaysian skill as well.



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wavy=more surface=more stab area to enemy= WIN ?
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according to my chinese ancestor, malay sword builder is wack, even taking months of lesson from chinese sifu still cannot make a straight sharp sword.
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according to my chinese ancestor, malay sword builder is wack, even taking months of lesson from chinese sifu still cannot make a straight sharp sword.
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i once heard dat "battle" keris' are less wavy and longer.....the short wavy ones are more of an art rather for fighting purposes...
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Keris Semenanjung



Pengenalan & Kegunaan


Keris adalah sejenis senjata warisan budaya orang melayu. Keris melambangkan pakaian raja-raja melayu Pembesar-pembesar negeri, golongan bangsawan, pahlawan dan rakyat.




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1 Reason is that time Dont have a Ruler yet??? hahahahha.....

Secondly when you stab and while pulling you twist the keris it would make the would open and bigger.

Normal straigh dagger can be closed back applying pressure on it.

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Senjata-senjata Tradisional Melayu Kedah



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well legend has it that the better Keris are forged from meteorites....hence keris is usually sharpened with the acidic lime juice instead of the normal way.....and the out of the world nature of the source of material makes the wielder believes that supernatural forces are with him.....

but back to the blade....i think its wavy to inflict an assymetrical wound, and open wound....and all those stuff they apply onto the keris during the keris-servicing rituals would make the keris more soiled...so once a person is stabbed with it....if it misses the vital organs, he would hav a big open wound...that doesnt heal easily....and if that doesnt work one will get infected (soiled keris baldes) from it and still die....very deadly weapon...
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i heard that lime helps to prevent rust when u " smoke " it with "kemenyan"...
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Keris Jalak Betina


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QUOTE(King83 @ Mar 26 2009, 03:48 PM)
wavy cos that time no ruler.... so the blades cannot be forged like modern straight blades.

Also, rumour has it that it was forged by gay men
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Pisau Sonak Udang


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Tumbok Lada


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Kalau memakai keris

Keris tersisip sebelah kiri

Keris beradat berlembaga

Kalau memakai keris telentang

Itu tanda mencari lawan

Bagai ayam kokok berdentang

Bagai hulubalang masuk gelanggang

Elok dipakai ditengah hutan

Atau belayar tengah laut

Untuk menjaga jaga diri

Kalau keris sampir terlungkup

Keris tidak mencari lawan

Keris tidak mencari musuh

Yang dipakai dalam jamuan

Yang dipakai pergi bertandang

Berbelit punca wali

Berselubung sampai kehulu

Tanda beradat berketurunan

Patut disebut keris terap




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QUOTE(foxhound @ Apr 7 2009, 06:38 PM)
according to my chinese ancestor, malay sword builder is wack, even taking months of lesson from chinese sifu still cannot make a straight sharp sword.
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well, if u want to put it that way, then i would say your ancestor is
stupid coz he didnt think how to inflict max damage with least material.
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wavy blades signifies the skill u got
the more waves the more kuat.
for example 10 waves=wave attack
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Long, long time ago, in the Malay archipelago, there was a very smart man. He was so smart he knew sound and light travel in wave form.

He wanted to tell the people around him, but they were just like me, idiots.

Trying to figure out a way to show his people what the heck a "wave" is, he made a knife in wave shape. With that wavy sword, he could show the people what "wave" is.

But they still "huh??" Idiots !

Out of uber frustration, he told the people --- "Nah, my sword is much better looking than yours", and those idiots around him look at his wavy swords, and then look at their own dull looking straight sword, and "yeah!" agreed.

So they started making all their swords wavy.

Tada! The birth of the Keris.

Tamat.

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to msgnify the injury. as simple as that
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I think it's made that way so that when you stab a Hang and you pull out the keris, the sinews and guts will come out as well as it won't easily slide off on a wavy surface.


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it will be easier to soak it with blood.
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use google research

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thread close as /k/tards here is teaching u fake things n didn't respect the keris at all
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QUOTE(edwardstevens @ Mar 26 2009, 03:49 PM)
its wavy so that if i stab you with keris and pull it out, your intestines will come out with it
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haduh... pasal weapon also want to vrom2 doh.gif
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yaloh ... ada ppl sez we no respek pulak.
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QUOTE(King83 @ Mar 26 2009, 03:48 PM)
wavy cos that time no ruler.... so the blades cannot be forged like modern straight blades.

Also, rumour has it that it was forged by gay men
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you are discriminating the malay heritage.
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Actually "pondan" is an acceptable custom in the Malay tradition !!! There's no discrimination what-so-ever.
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Perbezaan Sundang dan Tajong



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Tajong dan sundang dikategorikan sebagai keris. Sundang tidak digunakan untuk menikam seperti mana sifat keris, ia lebih kepada menetak dan melibas. Saiznya matanya lebih besar dan panjang serta agak berat berbanding keris biasa. Hulu sundang juga biasanya mirip kepada pedang walaupun mempunyai sifatnya yang tersendiri. Ia popular di Filiphina dan Borneo dan Bugis, walau bagaimanapun ada sundang yang dihasilkan di Terengganu , Kelantan, Patani dan Utara Semenanjung Malaysia.



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Keris Tajong pula banyak dihasilkan di Patani, kadangkala hulunya dikenali dengan nama hulu Pekaka. Tapi bagi hardcore keris lebih terkenal dengan nama tajong. Biasanya mata keris tajong menggunakan mata keris lurus pandai saras/sarah. Keris tajong lebih menumpukan kepada kualiti pembuatan hulu dan sarungnya. Hulunya tidak sesuai untuk kaedah tempur. Ia lebih kepada penghayatan seni dan kehalusan seni pertukangan kayu masyarakat Melayu. Biasanya hulu akan ditukar apabila hendak digunakan untuk bertempur. Untuk menambahkan nilai seni tajong ia dicampur lagi dengan kehebatan seni pertukangan emas, perak atau suasa.


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In Malay weapon, there are a lot of long distance weapon such as lembing, tombak, campak buang, as well as long handle weapon such as parang, golok, lading, pedang, etc. However, keris is favoured above others due to the fighting technique that was used. Malay fighting technique or silat stress on close combat which make short handle trusting weapon more effective. A slashing weapon would take time for a return slash. The short opening is all that is needed by someone with keris to move in for a single stab and then quickly move out. Imagine slashing a sword and receiving a keris stab at your neck.

Due to the weavy shape or "luk", damage done is out of propotion to the size of wounded. It cut maximum damage on it's way in and out, especially it is twisted on being pulled. In addition, it is not abnormal for the keris to be slightly rusted due to wet tropical climate, ensuring fatal infection within hours of untreated injury.

The shape of the hilt ensure a lot of thrusting power into the blade, compared to other types of stabbing weapon .
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QUOTE(convivencia @ May 16 2009, 06:49 PM)
Long, long time ago, in the Malay archipelago, there was a very smart man. He was so smart he knew sound and light travel in wave form.

He wanted to tell the people around him, but they were just like me, idiots.

Trying to figure out a way to show his people what the heck a "wave" is, he made a knife in wave shape. With that wavy sword, he could show the people what "wave" is.

But they still "huh??" Idiots !

Out of uber frustration, he told the people --- "Nah, my sword is much better looking than yours", and those idiots around him look at his wavy swords, and then look at their own dull looking straight sword, and "yeah!" agreed.

So they started making all their swords wavy.

Tada! The birth of the Keris.

Tamat.
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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Mar 26 2009, 05:13 PM)
I'VE GOT THE ANSWER!!!!!
Its made wavy to increase total stab surface area with less material usage! Them old farts are scientists and economists at the same time!

Twice the total stab width at half the price!
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den y not use katar?? since they like to copy so mani from others
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QUOTE(firedauz @ Mar 26 2009, 05:17 PM)
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^ graphical differences in damages inflicted from a normal blade (top) and a keris (bottom).
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n coz in this theory i would take much force to push in den to pull out...think of dat.....maybe their energy will be depleted trying to stab
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thats why they created that way,Malay warriors have too much strenght & very keng,they just wan to discrimate the enemy by using wavy blade.
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QUOTE(Squidward @ Mar 26 2009, 03:47 PM)
UKM historians have long studied the history of keris making. What continues to baffle them is the dark origins of the wavy blade.

According to several prominent historians, the blade is made wavy so they cut through the body like butter. This is 100% bullshit! Keris is made wavy not to cut better, but to ward off evil! If ukm historians were more rigorous in their research, they would have learnt that dark magic is rife during the early period of Melaka rule.
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according to what I know, the keris is made wavy so that it could be used to kill an opponent in an instant through stabbing.

If you stab a person with an ordinary knife, it would just leave a small wound.

If you stab a person with a keris and pull it out.. His intestines would be everywhere!!!
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QUOTE(Reynolds @ May 28 2009, 10:58 PM)
according to what I know, the keris is made wavy so that it could be used to kill an opponent in an instant through stabbing.

If you stab a person with an ordinary knife, it would just leave a small wound.

If you stab a person with a keris and pull it out.. His intestines would be everywhere!!!
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try stabbing urself with a keris n show the pic of intestine biggrin.gif for the lulz
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QUOTE(Muhammad Syukri @ May 28 2009, 09:40 PM)
thats why they created that way,Malay warriors have too much strenght & very keng,they just wan to discrimate the enemy by using wavy blade.
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Overrated.

Vikings are superior. I even vouch for Barbarians of the North.
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haha...but then if viking take keris, they would only hurt themself, haha, their hand are big eunf only to hold big axe n thor
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haha...but then if viking take keris, they would only hurt themself, haha, their hand are big eunf only to hold big axe n thor
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They could probably crush those pendekar with their brute strength. Sometime some ppl need a dose of reality to set things straight.
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QUOTE(thermo_reseat @ Mar 27 2009, 02:45 AM)
mana boleh ...nowadays nobody wears this turban already(besides sultans) ...all wear songkok and pizza hat  ..
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is he showing malay noe street style in the past?? u will hear yo after he post the hand hehe
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lepas tu stab people.

lepas tu we bath in blood.yeepie.
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Just use C4 lah, bomb everything. What country de "enemy" also cant bomb gao gao... got example let u see..
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the coolest part is the hilt....

can hold like pistol, and easier to thrust at the angle...

rmb Count Dooku's lightsaber?

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QUOTE(Reynolds @ May 28 2009, 09:58 PM)
If you stab a person with an ordinary knife, it would just leave a small wound.
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hey, where's your faggot tree pic? Dont be shy brows.gif

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Go jab one of this into your body and see if 'it would just leave a small wound'

Knife user does not need to stab you to make your intestine come out, just need a sharp knife and slash across your stomach and you wont be showing your V sign anymore

If you do not believe that an ordinary knife can do that, I would be glad to demonstrate it to your stomach whistling.gif
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baru ganas kan? kasi torture skit2
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QUOTE(inspiron @ May 31 2009, 03:41 AM)
hey, where's your faggot tree pic? Dont be shy  brows.gif

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Go jab one of this into your body and see if 'it would just leave a small wound'

Knife user does not need to stab you to make your intestine come out, just need a sharp knife and slash across your stomach and you wont be showing your V sign anymore

If you do not believe that an ordinary knife can do that, I would be glad to demonstrate it to your stomach  whistling.gif
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So does this pwns keris?
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Silats biggest secrets finally revealed



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Word on the street has it that the silat tradition of mandi minyak or 'hot-oil bath' practised by silat exponents is a scam.

Underneath the layer of oil, as the story has it, is water. Water and oil don’t mix and each has a different boiling temperature. So, when you heat up a water and oil concoction in a big wok, the water, which boils first, gives the illusion that the oil is a bubbling hot liquid that would scald.

“That's what we thought!” said Khairun Lamb. “But Justin (Ong) and I, we were at the site of the ceremony since beginning, and it was all oil, all the way, and it was really, really scalding hot! That’s just one of the things that surprised us when we were making the documentary.”

Khairun is the director of photography and co producer for a team commissioned by National Geographic Channel to do a documentary on the traditional Malaysian martial art of silat. The result is Fight Masters: Silat, set to be premiered this Merdeka Day on the National Geographic Channel.

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Joel performing the 'hot-oil bath' or mandi minyak ritual


The documentary follows American silat exponent Joel Champ who has been studying martial arts since he was seven, as he gets his next stripe in his belt — stripe being a level in silat.

The 32-year-old US Navy dry land sailor and master-at-arms fell in love with silat some 15 odd-years ago.

“In silat, it is said that the student doesn't search for the master. The master will seek the student, only when he is ready,” said producer and director Justin Ong.

“Joel was approached by Cikgu Sam — Tan Sri SM Salim's son - in the States and he never looked back, discarding all other forms of martial arts in favour of silat. Joel is in fact the highest-graded silat exponent in the western world.

“However, his training was a bit soft,” said Khairun. “He was practicing in air-conditioned gyms, and had paddings on the floor.

“He wanted to experience what it was like in the birthplace of silat, so we didn't spare him anything. It would have cheated him if we did.”

Then, Khairun added, with a mischievous grin on his face, “And this look he had when it was revealed that traditional silat practice only has sand to fall onto, and training is done outdoors, in the sweltering heat and torturous humidity.”

The project began when silat was chosen as one of the martial arts to be featured on Fight Masters.

“We went on a pitching process to National Geographic and the production company commissioned by them,” said Ong. “Then, a three-month research and two weeks of shooting, and then six to eight months of post- production. We made changes after changes when we discovered new things about silat. Overall, it took a year. And it wasn't easy. Every single line had to be verified by at least two sources.”

That's how stringent the standards are for National Geographic documentaries. And yet, it was a golden opportunity for Ong and for Khairun who even though has done numerous work for international networks such as NHK, Discovery Channel, ABC News, Al-Jazeera, Channel News Asia, has yet to do something about Malaysia.

“I wanted to do this because I have done so many things for other countries,” said Khairun. “I thought it was time I got involved with something for Malaysia.

“Doing this documentary basically taught us a lot about silat,” said Ong. “It was a martial arts that was developed for its practical uses, so we don't see any flying kicks or stylish moves. Everything has its use. Everything is effective. Even spitting at someone's face is a move that could determine the outcome of a fight.

“We also inserted a lot of CGI to show the scientific effects of some silat moves and the force of the blow. We were very lucky as Cikgu Sam convinced the masters in Malaysia to reveal some of their closely-guarded secrets and the moves they rarely show outsiders. We then put some experts to the task of taking a medical and physical explanation why it works that way. It's the science behind the art,” said Khairun.

“It's silat as you've never seen before!” interjected Ong.

However, the team does concede that the sheer scope of the documentary was narrowed down somewhat as the story of silat could not be encapsulated in just one documentary.

“We only have 47 minutes, and it’s jam-packed with as much information as we can,” said Khairun. “So it’s more of an introduction to silat. We covered Silat Gayung as it is the most established, and there are many other schools and styles out there.”

All the more reason, then, to give these guys another chance to cover silat again. This time, perhaps a whole series?

• Fight Masters : Silat will be shown on National Geographic Channel at 9pm on Merdeka Day, Aug 31 (premiere), Sept 11 and Sept 15.



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lepas tu stab people.

lepas tu we bath in blood.yeepie.
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QUOTE(Squidward @ Mar 26 2009, 03:47 PM)
UKM historians have long studied the history of keris making. What continues to baffle them is the dark origins of the wavy blade.

According to several prominent historians, the blade is made wavy so they cut through the body like butter. This is 100% bullshit! Keris is made wavy not to cut better, but to ward off evil! If ukm historians were more rigorous in their research, they would have learnt that dark magic is rife during the early period of Melaka rule.
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Wavy blade = longer cutting surface.

Helps the keris punch through the ribcage by cleaving apart ribs that get in the way.
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QUOTE(Reynolds @ May 28 2009, 09:58 PM)
according to what I know, the keris is made wavy so that it could be used to kill an opponent in an instant through stabbing.

If you stab a person with an ordinary knife, it would just leave a small wound.

If you stab a person with a keris and pull it out.. His intestines would be everywhere!!!
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Not true. If you were stabbed with a straight edged keris your intestines would come out too.

The wave of the keris increases the cutting area of the blade, meaning that it actually stabs through skin, flesh and clothes, perhaps even chainmail or hide armor more easily, although armoured areas would not be a target.

In addition when stabbing into the chest with force, the wave of the blade would cut apart ribs that get in the way, while with a straight edge it might get a bit stuck and require force to pull out plus a few more stabs.


Added on October 1, 2009, 6:05 pmWah! Much thx to harimau Malaya. I ish enjoice this thread!

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i thought it was wavy to deal more damage per stab. cos when u pull it out it actually widens the area of damage.
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In Malaysian the Pedang @ Sundang is the only two-edged sword of any importance, The straight one-edged sword with blade or even width is called the Malay peninsular Chenangkas and in Jawa Lamang. A heavier, two handed sword is called Berandal in Borneo where it is most usually found. The Chinese and Japanese two handed sword is know as Jenawi.

Some chenangkas have a metal cross piece at right angles to the axis of the hilt, perhaps to prevent the hand sliding up the hilt when the weapon is wielded by wrist pressure. Some are undoubtedly of recent manufacture and may be fakes.

Of the greater interest, and usually of finer workmanship too, is the curved sword known to the Malay as Shamsir. This term is strictly applicable to only to the curved saber or scimitar of Persian origin. The Indian shamsir or tulwar is a cross-hilted sword. The hilt is usually of brass, sometimes of iron or silver, with pommel at the end to prevent the hand slipping when drawing cut is made. The pommel is large and hollow for lightness’ sake so that the balance of the sword is not upset.



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UKM historians have long studied the history of keris making. What continues to baffle them is the dark origins of the wavy blade.

According to several prominent historians, the blade is made wavy so they cut through the body like butter. This is 100% bullshit! Keris is made wavy not to cut better, but to ward off evil! If ukm historians were more rigorous in their research, they would have learnt that dark magic is rife during the early period of Melaka rule.
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QUOTE(Squidward @ Mar 26 2009, 03:47 PM)
UKM historians have long studied the history of keris making. What continues to baffle them is the dark origins of the wavy blade.

According to several prominent historians, the blade is made wavy so they cut through the body like butter. This is 100% bullshit! Keris is made wavy not to cut better, but to ward off evil! If ukm historians were more rigorous in their research, they would have learnt that dark magic is rife during the early period of Melaka rule.
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merapu la ko punya kenyataan,

ko nak tau kenapa?

keris dibuat sedemikian rupa supaya dapat bunuh lawan/musuh dengan hanya sekali tikaman!

orang dulu2 tiap-tiap hari pergi asap dan limaukan keris supaya ia jadi lebih berbisa/beracun, orang eropah dula mana ada buat camni.. sekali je keris tu tusuk ke badan ko, sudah amat tipis harapan nak hidup, inilah perbezaan dia dengan pedang.

lagipun orang dulu-dulu amat kuat dengan ilmu kebal dan ada juga yang ada ilmu halimunan, nak lawan ilmu ni antara caranya ialah dengan senjata yang dinamakan keris.. tapi sekali orang putih dapat teknologi bom macam C4 keris ke, ilmu kebal ke, pedang ke semua pun dah tak guna..

jadi kesimpulannya belajar la ilmu dan teknologi terkini, teknologi dan ilmu dulu2 tu jadikan la rujukan dan teladan supaya kita tak buat silap dan salah lagi.

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merapu la ko punya kenyataan,

ko nak tau kenapa?

keris dibuat sedemikian rupa supaya dapat bunuh lawan/musuh dengan hanya sekali tikaman!

orang dulu2 tiap-tiap hari pergi asap dan limaukan keris supaya ia jadi lebih berbisa/beracun, orang eropah dula mana ada buat camni.. sekali je keris tu tusuk ke badan ko, sudah amat tipis harapan nak hidup, inilah perbezaan dia dengan pedang.

lagipun orang dulu-dulu amat kuat dengan ilmu kebal dan ada juga yang ada ilmu halimunan, nak lawan ilmu ni antara caranya ialah dengan senjata yang dinamakan keris.. tapi sekali orang putih dapat teknologi bom macam C4 keris ke, ilmu kebal ke, pedang ke semua pun dah tak guna..

jadi kesimpulannya belajar la ilmu dan teknologi terkini, teknologi dan ilmu dulu2 tu jadikan la rujukan dan teladan supaya kita tak buat silap dan salah lagi.
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The reason of its shape is to cause more damage when you stab your enemy.. a straight blade/sword will only open a wound consistently according to its size/shape/angle.

When you stab with a keris.. the wavy shape causes a wider wound cutting through more flesh thus chances of killing your enemy is higher... it's a brutal weapon.

The best way to cause a fatal-hard-to-heal wound is to stab and breaking the keris, leaving the tip/blade in your enemy body...

You can see in the movies where people tried to extract an arrow or bullet out of the body..painful huh? Imagine extracting a wavy sharp keris... now that's PAINFUL!!!
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the actual reason is they wanna pull out the intestines when u stab the victim.
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never see, heard ppl die from ditikam keris ?

parang yes la. keris, lawak siut. lawak besar.
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never see, heard ppl die from ditikam keris ?

parang yes la. keris, lawak siut. lawak besar.
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he did not insult .... as the matter of fact Kris is an Indian weapon made to STAB opponents ...

it doesnt matter which place it stabs .. whether it's the heart, skull, throat, or the ass

we DO know Malays days are much older ... everyone's race is OLD
and malays are quick to COPY the indian weapon

same like SILAT

remember HISTORY, dude
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keris is an indian weapon? very smart dude you know your history very well. And whoever said that keris was an indian weapon from majapahit kingdom? I didnt know Indonesia a part of India? LOL
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keris is an indian weapon? very smart dude you know your history very well. And whoever said that keris was an indian weapon from majapahit kingdom? I didnt know Indonesia a part of India? LOL
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QUOTE(Squidward @ Mar 26 2009, 03:47 PM)
UKM historians have long studied the history of keris making. What continues to baffle them is the dark origins of the wavy blade.

According to several prominent historians, the blade is made wavy so they cut through the body like butter. This is 100% bullshit! Keris is made wavy not to cut better, but to ward off evil! If ukm historians were more rigorous in their research, they would have learnt that dark magic is rife during the early period of Melaka rule.
(to be continued...)
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Why is it short and looks like a drill?

It's hardly effective against the Masamune, or the Excalibur which has far longer reach.

Did the inventor had other intentions/purposes of using it such as using it to drill things?
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Why is it short and looks like a drill?

It's hardly effective against the Masamune, or the Excalibur which has far longer reach.

Did the inventor had other intentions/purposes of using it such as using it to drill things?
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QUOTE(Squidward @ Mar 26 2009, 03:47 PM)
UKM historians have long studied the history of keris making. What continues to baffle them is the dark origins of the wavy blade.

According to several prominent historians, the blade is made wavy so they cut through the body like butter. This is 100% bullshit! Keris is made wavy not to cut better, but to ward off evil! If ukm historians were more rigorous in their research, they would have learnt that dark magic is rife during the early period of Melaka rule.
(to be continued...)
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Malaysia is full of revisionist historians, whitewashing all the ugly parts and replacing it with holier than thou BS.
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its wavy so that if i stab you with keris and pull it out, your intestines will come out with it
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tengok sendiri cara guna keris.. dia bukan setakat cucuk je.. kena pusing sikit lepas tu baru tarik

video animasi National Geographic pasal senjata keris dan cara gunanya mengikut seni silat gayung Malaysia


tikam.. pusing.. tarik..!

"double damage in a single strike" - National Geographic

.. kalau dah kena tu memang nyawa selalunya dah tak panjang.. serupa macam kau p ambil garfu pusing pada mee lepas tu tarik tengok apa jadi.
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QUOTE(Polaris @ Dec 27 2010, 03:26 PM)
Malaysia is full of revisionist historians, whitewashing all the ugly parts and replacing it with holier than thou BS.
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You are right on that part.

Refining histories and add in nice elements into them. Then use to to claim this and that.
That's why we have so many legends and grandfather stories to be told.

It's actually a strategic approach. You refine your stories, put it in textbooks and then brainwash the young by making them memorize so they score As in exams.

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tengok sendiri cara guna keris.. dia bukan setakat cucuk je.. kena pusing sikit lepas tu baru tarik

video animasi National Geographic pasal senjata keris dan cara gunanya mengikut seni silat gayung Malaysia


tikam.. pusing.. tarik..!

"double damage in a single strike" - National Geographic

.. kalau dah kena tu memang nyawa selalunya dah tak panjang.. serupa macam kau p ambil garfu pusing pada mee lepas tu tarik tengok apa jadi.
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With such a short knife, and thin metal has it any effectiveness against say the Masamune, Pudao, Jian or even the nunchaku?


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I was told that last time the maker is not so good in making straight blade...

So... is easier to make wavy blade than straight...
"Tak pandai" make straight... so might well make wavy to increase sales and eliminate customers complain.... Good strategy....
How can customer complain that not straight and it is meant to be wavy...

Then, the maker pandai-pandai come out with a reason to support the wavy shape...
"Wavy can cut deeper when pulled out"....
Another pandai advertising strategy...

Just like China Brand handphone...
They tak pandai make good phone... so they make the phone cheap... and tell you... "Now is cheap, means you can change new handphone with better technology every month since so cheap, rather stuck with iPorn for 24 months."
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I was told that last time the maker is not so good in making straight blade...

So... is easier to make wavy blade than straight...
"Tak pandai" make straight... so might well make wavy to increase sales and eliminate customers complain.... Good strategy....
How can customer complain that not straight and it is meant to be wavy...

Then, the maker pandai-pandai come out with a reason to support the wavy shape...
"Wavy can cut deeper when pulled out"....
Another pandai advertising strategy...

Just like China Brand handphone...
They tak pandai make good phone... so they make the phone cheap... and tell you... "Now is cheap, means you can change new handphone with better technology every month since so cheap, rather stuck with iPorn for 24 months."
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Every country got different interpretations la.

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ukm?

the one got prof said nuclear plant near his house area also no danger?

the one got prof said yoga got bad influence?

so they wan to kaji the keris? make nuclear weapon lah.
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QUOTE(cliffang83 @ Oct 26 2011, 10:41 AM)
I was told that last time the maker is not so good in making straight blade...

So... is easier to make wavy blade than straight...
"Tak pandai" make straight... so might well make wavy to increase sales and eliminate customers complain.... Good strategy....
How can customer complain that not straight and it is meant to be wavy...

Then, the maker pandai-pandai come out with a reason to support the wavy shape...
"Wavy can cut deeper when pulled out"....
Another pandai advertising strategy...

Just like China Brand handphone...
They tak pandai make good phone... so they make the phone cheap... and tell you... "Now is cheap, means you can change new handphone with better technology every month since so cheap, rather stuck with iPorn for 24 months."
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lol

but it's true after u cucuk the keris into someone body.. then u twist that keris so the opponent can feel more pain of the poison they put on that keris.

it is really a different style of fighting if you use long sword.. pakai pedang kita nak tetak dia.. pakai keris kita nak cuba tusuk dan pusing.

useless argue in internet.. i think it is better u try it for yourself.. tusuk any well made keris into your own body and twist it. laugh.gif

n don't forget to at least post your picture with that kind of action here ya.. laugh.gif

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lol

but it's true after u cucuk the keris into someone body.. then u twist that keris so the opponent can feel more pain of the poison they put on that keris.

it is really a different style of fighting if you use long sword.. pakai pedang kita nak tetak dia.. pakai keris kita nak cuba tusuk dan pusing.

useless argue in internet.. i think it is better u try it for yourself.. tusuk any well made keris into your own body and twist it.  laugh.gif

n don't forget to at least post your picture with that kind of action here ya..  laugh.gif
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the reason the keris wavvy is when we stubb into the flash the savvy blade will give more impact in slicing meat rather than straight blade which the result more critical damage applied to mobs.. tats y it make it curvy

the reason it's short because the shorter the blade the more accuracy it will be.. the higher accurace mean the higher critical rate.. plus with critical ring and critical buff u can get have higher chance to do critical dmg wether in pvp or pve
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i use teh blade from my sharpener also ken kill portugis
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keris is teh most failest weapon liao...
i use teh blade from my sharpener also ken kill portugis
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QUOTE(hack3line @ Oct 14 2009, 02:13 AM)
merapu la ko punya kenyataan,

ko nak tau kenapa?

keris dibuat sedemikian rupa supaya dapat bunuh lawan/musuh dengan hanya sekali tikaman!

orang dulu2 tiap-tiap hari pergi asap dan limaukan keris supaya ia jadi lebih berbisa/beracun, orang eropah dula mana ada buat camni.. sekali je keris tu tusuk ke badan ko, sudah amat tipis harapan nak hidup, inilah perbezaan dia dengan pedang.

lagipun orang dulu-dulu amat kuat dengan ilmu kebal dan ada juga yang ada ilmu halimunan, nak lawan ilmu ni antara caranya ialah dengan senjata yang dinamakan keris.. tapi sekali orang putih dapat teknologi bom macam C4 keris ke, ilmu kebal ke, pedang ke semua pun dah tak guna..

jadi kesimpulannya belajar la ilmu dan teknologi terkini, teknologi dan ilmu dulu2 tu jadikan la rujukan dan teladan supaya kita tak buat silap dan salah lagi.
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merapu la ko punya kenyataan,
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unfortunately, u will be weaponless after that unless u carry 99999999999 keris to battle
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Lol u gays racing in this tered ah?
Btw, are keris just used to poke or stab people?
Are the sides tajam as well or tumpul?
The design of the keris seemed fail. Unconventional and small and the wavy design looks easy patah. The only thing cool about it is the victim gets a wavy designed cut which cannot be seen and boast about.
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orang dulu2 tiap-tiap hari pergi asap dan limaukan keris supaya ia jadi lebih berbisa/beracun


muahahahah ini betul betul menunjukan kepandaian penggunna keris masa dulu... orang eropah guna limau untuk cuci pinggan la... bukan untuk memperbisakan ia lagi la...

ohh lagi satu...mati la orang orang muda zaman skarang... hampir tiap tiap malam pun rokok sebatang dengan segelas teh o' ais limau... ahahah
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FACT: BRUCE LEE DIED IN THE HAND OF SILAT MASTER WHO USED KERIS
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FACT: BRUCE LEE DIED IN THE HAND OF SILAT MASTER WHO USED KERIS
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ahaha... that keris must so tera... once stab.. bruce lee brain swell until he die... ahahah
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QUOTE(Squidward @ Mar 26 2009, 04:47 PM)
UKM historians have long studied the history of keris making. What continues to baffle them is the dark origins of the wavy blade.

According to several prominent historians, the blade is made wavy so they cut through the body like butter. This is 100% bullshit! Keris is made wavy not to cut better, but to ward off evil! If ukm historians were more rigorous in their research, they would have learnt that dark magic is rife during the early period of Melaka rule.
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ekceli is wavy bekos salah ketuk sweat.gif
u know lah how dis piper do work
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keris so pendek, the longsword guy chop of keris hand and lob of his head before he can do anything. U think he can blink is it? wth.
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proven that it is blunt?
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wavy so that the person whom got stab by if feels more pain.
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no laaaa...it's wavy to make more internal damage looorrrr.
imagine u use saw to potong the meat...it bcome a mess isnt it?
dats the purpose looorrrr.
make mess of ur internal body so u die in pain
TS so bodo like Squidward

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QUOTE(Haruyuki @ Mar 28 2012, 05:06 AM)
no laaaa...it's wavy to make more internal damage looorrrr.
imagine u use saw to potong the meat...it bcome a mess isnt it?
dats the purpose looorrrr.
make mess of ur internal body so u die in pain
TS so bodo like Squidward
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QUOTE(Jejilat @ Mar 28 2012, 03:39 AM)
ekceli is wavy bekos salah ketuk sweat.gif
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The keris is to represent ketuanan melayu. It's short and deformed.
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QUOTE(Jejilat @ Mar 28 2012, 03:39 AM)
ekceli is wavy bekos salah ketuk sweat.gif
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i tot it were made like that to make it more painful when stabbed to opponent? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(slimey @ Mar 28 2012, 04:14 AM)
proven that it is blunt?
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western broadswords are actually mostly blunt too, by the way. since its big, you cant really stab and with people wearing armor the concussion is more effective.

also, if it's sharp all the way, you can't grab the blade and half-sword

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QUOTE(Squidward @ Mar 26 2009, 03:47 PM)
UKM historians have long studied the history of keris making. What continues to baffle them is the dark origins of the wavy blade.

According to several prominent historians, the blade is made wavy so they cut through the body like butter. This is 100% bullshit! Keris is made wavy not to cut better, but to ward off evil! If ukm historians were more rigorous in their research, they would have learnt that dark magic is rife during the early period of Melaka rule.
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TS > Historians ???

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i heard of a story that the maker is recklesss and donno how to make the blade straight as the usual sword and rapier. that's why they came out wavy and pendek sweat.gif

another story is they purposely make it so the wound inflicted is more peril than typical straight sword and sabre. imagine you stab and pull it out, with the wavy blade pull out the flesh along sweat.gif
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most u guise must think keris only wavy and kontot liddis rite
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QUOTE(jeffwyk @ Mar 26 2009, 03:51 PM)
it's wavy shape is to inflict more damage
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I'm agreeing to this one. Stabbing is painful enough, but pulling it out will also inflict +10 damage.
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Alexander the Great is a Malay?

you must be dreaming .. if you say he's an Arab, maybe we can believe it .. but MALAY? that time malays are nothing more than the Pirates of Selat Melaka

but no matter, Alexander was poisoned and murdered .. and his whole Roman Empire splits to 2 (which latter Atilla the Hun came to trash it)
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wavy cos that time no ruler.... so the blades cannot be forged like modern straight blades.

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QUOTE(Squidward @ Mar 26 2009, 03:47 PM)
UKM historians have long studied the history of keris making. What continues to baffle them is the dark origins of the wavy blade.

According to several prominent historians, the blade is made wavy so they cut through the body like butter. This is 100% bullshit! Keris is made wavy not to cut better, but to ward off evil! If ukm historians were more rigorous in their research, they would have learnt that dark magic is rife during the early period of Melaka rule.
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ini fizik bro...
cuba ko jangan letak sarung keris kat hujung keris tu...tahi ape pun takde leh berdiri

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ini fizik bro...
cuba ko jangan letak sarung keris kat hujung keris tu...tahi ape pun takde leh berdiri
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ini fizik bro...
cuba ko jangan letak sarung keris kat hujung keris tu...tahi ape pun takde leh berdiri
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Sheikh Qomi was born in Iranian holy city of Qom in 1543 and moved to Bangkok in 1605 at the age of 62. He lived in Siam for 26 years until his death. He was trusted in Siam royal court and undertook top positions in government hierarchy of Siam thanks to his insight and intellect.




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QUOTE(Squidward @ Mar 26 2009, 03:47 PM)
UKM historians have long studied the history of keris making. What continues to baffle them is the dark origins of the wavy blade.

According to several prominent historians, the blade is made wavy so they cut through the body like butter. This is 100% bullshit! Keris is made wavy not to cut better, but to ward off evil! If ukm historians were more rigorous in their research, they would have learnt that dark magic is rife during the early period of Melaka rule.
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why dont you stab yourself with one, to find out ?
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keris tip have a poison

so when you actually stab somebody
the chances of survival is low

as

1)If you manage to get away after the stab,you can't pull the keris away as wavy shape make it harder to pull it out.As you prolong the time you pull out the keris,the poison will spread much further into your body and in the end die also

2)The wavy shape will ensure internal bleeding is harder to stop,this is only if the owner doesn't put poison

to put it simply,
its a swift kill weapon that ensure death if you hit the target and the size will give you manuverbility to swing it to the enemy easily.

Train couple of time with Keris
although lack of defense unlike a old chinese spear(also tipped with poison)
it still consider deadly in close range combat


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QUOTE(Squidward @ Mar 26 2009, 03:47 PM)
UKM historians have long studied the history of keris making. What continues to baffle them is the dark origins of the wavy blade.

According to several prominent historians, the blade is made wavy so they cut through the body like butter. This is 100% bullshit! Keris is made wavy not to cut better, but to ward off evil! If ukm historians were more rigorous in their research, they would have learnt that dark magic is rife during the early period of Melaka rule.
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ya even in china if the weapon have weird design most of them c/w better ability to hold/inflict poison than normal weapon due to their design.

keris in my idea r more to inflict more damage during stabbing but light and easy to carry.
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why they no make keris like saber??
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QUOTE(Squidward @ Mar 26 2009, 04:47 PM)
UKM historians have long studied the history of keris making. What continues to baffle them is the dark origins of the wavy blade.

According to several prominent historians, the blade is made wavy so they cut through the body like butter. This is 100% bullshit! Keris is made wavy not to cut better, but to ward off evil! If ukm historians were more rigorous in their research, they would have learnt that dark magic is rife during the early period of Melaka rule.
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QUOTE(Squidward @ Mar 26 2009, 03:47 PM)
UKM historians have long studied the history of keris making. What continues to baffle them is the dark origins of the wavy blade.

According to several prominent historians, the blade is made wavy so they cut through the body like butter. This is 100% bullshit! Keris is made wavy not to cut better, but to ward off evil! If ukm historians were more rigorous in their research, they would have learnt that dark magic is rife during the early period of Melaka rule.
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why don't you try it on yourself and find out?
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my diablo 2 necromancer is equipped with the unique Jade Tan Do kris which does a large amount of poison damage along with those wickity-wipidi-willsmith fresh price of bel air curse.
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QUOTE(Einjahr @ May 20 2013, 05:03 PM)
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squidward dah lama kena mute liao coz re-quote self quote....

anyway, keris wavy to increase surface/contact area...the diameter if view from the point...
once area increase to become wider, chance of inflicting serious injury also increase..or higher chance to kena bahagian penting...
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QUOTE(Mech Warrior 6 @ May 20 2013, 05:25 PM)
squidward dah lama kena mute liao coz re-quote self quote....

anyway, keris wavy to increase surface/contact area...the diameter if view from the point...
once area increase to become wider, chance of inflicting serious injury also increase..or higher chance to kena bahagian penting...
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I agree that keris blade is wavy to ward of evil. The main threat back in the day is necromancer yang suka sangat resurrect old tered mad.gif
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QUOTE(Mech Warrior 6 @ May 20 2013, 05:25 PM)
squidward dah lama kena mute liao coz re-quote self quote....


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keris gooding for cucuk..
not cutting.

that why the move is usually involve thrust

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He kena mute cz of self quote? I remember seeing him around after that self quote incident.
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maybe he busy using other dupe so didnt notice the notification.. lol
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I thought it was artistic rather than functional?

A straight blade and a curvy blade both can cut blink.gif
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keris> chinese toy
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QUOTE(Squidward @ Mar 26 2009, 03:47 PM)
UKM historians have long studied the history of keris making. What continues to baffle them is the dark origins of the wavy blade.

According to several prominent historians, the blade is made wavy so they cut through the body like butter. This is 100% bullshit! Keris is made wavy not to cut better, but to ward off evil! If ukm historians were more rigorous in their research, they would have learnt that dark magic is rife during the early period of Melaka rule.
(to be continued...)
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the ward of evil thing probably just out of superstition la.. sweat.gif
the design is most prolly to create a serrated effect, maximizing damage thumbup.gif
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Cos the main contractor appointed to supply the 100,000 keris songlap the funds and outsource to another sub contractor. Then that sub-con songlap again and outsource again, etc.

End up no real profit in forging the keris properly so the end contractor just simply whack only and came up with a wavy sharp stick.

Then when handover of supplies and T&C, the main con just b/s that the design is some spiritual feng shui design that can not only harm mortals but also supernatural.
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dear all

to enlighten this matter, let me explain

keris is wavy is simply becuz when the pendekar stab someone, they will usually twist the keris so the intenal damage is bigger and the wound cant be close easily resulting instant death even with one stab

TQ, now TS got the answer pls close thistered
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to create maximum damage to the organs when going in and out from human body

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They r so bad in makin blades hence the design n they have to make do with it
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Its wavy because if u made a similar length sword with same width, it will be heavy. The Keris will offer the same damage as a sword with the same width but with weight savings.
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QUOTE(bilabong @ Mar 26 2009, 05:04 PM)
they even attach kriss at spear .... imagine they use it to stab you, you died immediately...

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i heard the story for samurai to kill it's opponent, they soak their katana with shit and piss to cultivate tetanus, if struck at the enemy, the enemy will be immobilized and drag his comrade along. i wonder if the silat master will do the same to keris to soak it with germs to breed tetanus sweat.gif
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how about chinese one ? sword made out of ancient coin ? will it cut too ?
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QUOTE(xiaotim @ May 21 2013, 10:07 AM)
zhang fei during 3 kingdom era use wave bade spear(八仗蛇矛) means 8ft snake spear... very powderfull weapon
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QUOTE(d33pbluez @ May 21 2013, 10:15 AM)
how about chinese one ? sword made out of ancient coin ? will it cut too ?
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QUOTE(Einjahr @ May 20 2013, 07:37 PM)
what if its enchanted?
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heard it can fly to israel and back
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heard it can fly to israel and back
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straight keris kiss enchantment = +10 fear by minority races
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coz last time no autocad to make dwg for keris...so senget here n thar
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QUOTE(firedauz @ Mar 25 2009, 07:48 PM)
Its a local design to be different from the standard straight blade.
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QUOTE(Squidward @ Mar 26 2009, 03:47 PM)
UKM historians have long studied the history of keris making. What continues to baffle them is the dark origins of the wavy blade.

According to several prominent historians, the blade is made wavy so they cut through the body like butter. This is 100% bullshit! Keris is made wavy not to cut better, but to ward off evil! If ukm historians were more rigorous in their research, they would have learnt that dark magic is rife during the early period of Melaka rule.
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UKM??

what do you expect??

with my brains, if I study at UKM, sure got PHD in a year....
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it will come in useful if you take into consideration that most wars were fought on horsebacks....... so length is an advantage when charging towards opponent.
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keris induce with mantras and poison..
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I'm more interested in Moro keris broadsword

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easy peasy, the first keris inventor ada parkinson maaa
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i beleive the keris wave is for spiritual purpose. Keris predates Islam and any other religions probably way back back duirng the time when people=s in this region worship a spirits. Early keris tend to take a shape of a spirit.

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The kris blade is called a wilah or bilah. Kris blades are usually narrow with a wide, asymmetrical base. The kris is famous for its wavy blade; however, the older types of kris dated from the Majapahit era have straight blades.[5] The number of luk or curves on the blade is always odd.[6] Common numbers of luk range from three to thirteen waves, but some blades have up to 29.[7] In contrast to the older straight type, most kris today have a wavy blade which is supposed to increase the severity of wounds inflicted upon a victim.[6] During keris stabbing, the wavy blade severs more blood vessels, creating a wider wound which causes the victim to easily bleed to death.

Source : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kris


ok kolos nao.
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so when you stab it into your enemy and rotate the keris, it hurts way more than a straight blade.
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the damage would be more fatal than what a straight blade can do
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true one dulu2 punya olang banyak guna black magic. deswai now many saka
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QUOTE(Uzumaki NaruTo @ May 21 2013, 11:08 AM)
Source : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kris
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QUOTE(bilabong @ Mar 26 2009, 04:04 PM)
they even attach kriss at spear .... imagine they use it to stab you, you died immediately...

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i heard the story for samurai to kill it's opponent, they soak their katana with shit and piss to cultivate tetanus, if struck at the enemy, the enemy will be immobilized and drag his comrade along. i wonder if the silat master will do the same to keris to soak it with germs to breed tetanus sweat.gif
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Katana is meant for clean and instant decapitation. Don't need crude methods like give tetanus la. Plus they treat their katana very respectfully. It needs to be oiled and sharpened from time to time
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keris is a gutting knife. its use is by stabbing the opponents gut, twist it 90 degrees and take it back out. its design philosophy is to inflict the most grievous and fatal wound in one stab. common knives can also be twisted but its difficult to do due to the design. the keris's wavy design along with its thin blade effectively makes it a drill that messes up parts of your lower intestines when used properly.

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QUOTE(Squidward @ Mar 26 2009, 03:47 PM)
UKM historians have long studied the history of keris making. What continues to baffle them is the dark origins of the wavy blade.

According to several prominent historians, the blade is made wavy so they cut through the body like butter. This is 100% bullshit! Keris is made wavy not to cut better, but to ward off evil! If ukm historians were more rigorous in their research, they would have learnt that dark magic is rife during the early period of Melaka rule.
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if it is straight then we'd call it katana nod.gif
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QUOTE(Squidward @ Mar 26 2009, 03:47 PM)
UKM historians have long studied the history of keris making. What continues to baffle them is the dark origins of the wavy blade.

According to several prominent historians, the blade is made wavy so they cut through the body like butter. This is 100% bullshit! Keris is made wavy not to cut better, but to ward off evil! If ukm historians were more rigorous in their research, they would have learnt that dark magic is rife during the early period of Melaka rule.
(to be continued...)
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Kan ada wikipedia....bacalar....

The kris blade is called a wilah or bilah. Kris blades are usually narrow with a wide, asymmetrical base. The kris is famous for its wavy blade; however, the older types of kris dated from the Majapahit era have straight blades.[6] The number of luk or curves on the blade is always odd.[7] Common numbers of luk range from three to thirteen waves, but some blades have up to 29.[8] In contrast to the older straight type, most kris today have a wavy blade which is supposed to increase the severity of wounds inflicted upon a victim.[7] During kris stabbing, the wavy blade severs more blood vessels, creating a wider wound which causes the victim to easily bleed to death.

SOS Kris

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QUOTE(Serpentarius @ Mar 26 2009, 04:32 PM)
he did not insult .... as the matter of fact Kris is an Indian weapon made to STAB opponents ...

it doesnt matter which place it stabs .. whether it's the heart, skull, throat, or the ass

we DO know Malays days are much older ... everyone's race is OLD
and malays are quick to COPY the indian weapon

same like SILAT

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its wavy so that if i stab you with keris and pull it out, your intestines will come out with it
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I LOL at /K/ talking about why keris blade is wavy... rclxms.gif laugh.gif
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Why keris is wavy?why dont you stab yourself with it and youll.get your.answer.
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wavy cause that time the blacksmith skill not good...donno how to make straight...
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Also, dont forget they actually added poison on the blade and shove it right through your guts. =X
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Because every curve of the keris will give +1 mana regeneration
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QUOTE(King83 @ Mar 26 2009, 03:48 PM)
wavy cos that time no ruler.... so the blades cannot be forged like modern straight blades.

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The Keris so short how to fight with Normal sword.. One cucuk die Liao...
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Keris is very popular to the extent that many people assume that it was the only weapon used by the ancient malays. Perhaps its popularity owes to its distinctive appearance, legends, symbolism, and mystical elements. But in actual combat and warfare, other utilitarian weapons are more often used like tombak, lembing, pedang, kerambit, guns and blowpipes. The wavy design of keris blade actually came later; earlier keris actually had straight blades.
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