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post May 25 2012, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(fr0sti3 @ May 25 2012, 08:07 PM)
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how is this mobo mount? I still can't imagine it. hmm.gif
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post Aug 21 2014, 08:49 AM

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What is the best casing+psu+mobo+cpu setup for SFF?
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post Aug 21 2014, 09:02 AM

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QUOTE(Clem1982 @ Aug 21 2014, 08:56 AM)
no such thing smile.gif

tech evolves very fast and the best hardware may not be the best after a short while... but there is a general rule that I follow for SFF build: Small as possible while being as powerful / useful as possible wink.gif
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Can u list up? Being budget also. From september onwards, im moving back n forth a lot with flight due to working. So will bring sff to peninsula n sarawak a lots. One lcd at peninsula, one at home sarawak.i cant leave my pc. Play dota a lot. Haha
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post Aug 21 2014, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(Clem1982 @ Aug 21 2014, 09:07 AM)
owh you're looking to build one? hmm what's your budget? and we know that it's for Dota2 so usage is taken care of wink.gif
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I recycle my current pc. I have i3-2100, mobo asus micro atx, psu silverstone 500watt, gpu msi gtx660 gaming series n casing elite series 430 black.


Hope can recycle most part.yea,I know mobo need to change to itx. Psu can I keep? Silverstone is standard atx size

Or u can suggest smallest form for microatx. Case the smallest

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post Aug 21 2014, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(Clem1982 @ Aug 21 2014, 09:35 AM)
smaller MATX chassis is a lot easier to do and it's definitely cheaper than switching to mITX here are but a few of my favourites for MATX chasiss

BitFenix Prodigy-M
Silverstone TJ08-E
Xigmatek Aquila
Cooler Master N200
Thermaltake Armor A30
NZXT Vulcan

these are but a few that I can think of that can fit all your components for now
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Noted.thanks!
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post Aug 21 2014, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(kherel77 @ Aug 21 2014, 09:41 AM)
Sugo SG-02

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post Aug 21 2014, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(crayzee @ Aug 21 2014, 01:26 PM)
Change ur PSU to SFX and go for silverstone SG05. Only 10.8 liters in volume.
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what size is that SFX? sg05 cant accept standard atx psu?
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QUOTE(crayzee @ Aug 21 2014, 08:43 PM)
yes SG05 cant accept standard atx psu due to the size 222 mm (W) x 176 mm (H) x 276 mm (D), 10.8 liters
GTX660 should be able to fit in, max length SG05 support with 9.5" length card

comparison size atx vs sfx

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isnt sg05 only accept mini itx? i just read the spec

http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=210

my mobo is micro atx
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post Aug 21 2014, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(crayzee @ Aug 21 2014, 08:58 PM)
sorry bro, din know you're re-using your mobo  biggrin.gif
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nvemind. biggrin.gif i just want to downsizing the best i can using microatx
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post Aug 22 2014, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(crayzee @ Aug 9 2014, 11:57 PM)
Here's mine just completed today, ML07b aka the Raven RVZ01's brother.

Managed to cramp in mid range spec (Just missing GTX770 to match with Steam Machine)  tongue.gif
I5 4460
16gb ram
Gigabyte H97N-Wifi
Gtx760
Silverstone SFX psu 450w
Scythe big shuriken 2
Intel 530 ssd
500gb hdd

Casing fan using
1 X Enermax TB silent cpu side
2 x noctua NFP12 for gpu side

Bought silverstone's flat cable as well for better cable management. 
I've read that some mobo couldnt fit certain low profile cpu cooler especially big shuriken, so need to make sure of that.

Plus:
-Compact case, well thought of the arrangement especially pcie riser for gc
-low profile look (looks like AV receiver) suitable to blend in with home theater setup
-CPU and GPU cooling are seperated. My GPU idles around 40C and CPU 38C! Not bad for such a cramped casing.
-Dust filter
Minus:
-Plastic front
-Steel casing
-ML07 does not come with case fan and dust filter unlike RVZ01! Need to fork extra for that
-Casing fan need to use silent version else it' ll be noisy.
-If you inspect closely, the build quality not that refined
-Pain in the ass to assemble but well worth it!
-limited choice for sfx psu
-power button and reset button no tactile feedback. Damn hard to press and it feels like a stucked button
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Hi.whats different btween ML07B &RVZ01?
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post Aug 22 2014, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(crayzee @ Aug 22 2014, 04:21 PM)
Internally they are the same. Externally just the outlook are different. ML07 looks more like a sleek htpc box while RVZ01 design more towards younger audience and more curves. It depends on your taste. Other than that the rest are the same, e.g fan placement, wires.

One thing is that ML07 also missing dust filter and casing fan (you need top up to buy that)
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Price? I cant find ML07 on zhenwei. Where u bought?
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post Aug 23 2014, 06:39 AM

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QUOTE(crayzee @ Aug 22 2014, 05:43 PM)
he didnt list it on his sale, i PM-ed him and he said got stock. RM280-290 i think.
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i like ml07 looks better than raven counterpart. cos ml07 resembles console ps2. simplified look

i think i want to try sff.. i got 1k to buy sfx psu, mlo7, cpu+miniitx mobo. after i buy all, i will sell current case,cpu,mobo,psu to fund. lessen the burden

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post Aug 23 2014, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(crayzee @ Aug 22 2014, 05:43 PM)
he didnt list it on his sale, i PM-ed him and he said got stock. RM280-290 i think.
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Do u install optical drive on ML07? Its the slimmed one right?
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post Aug 23 2014, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(Clem1982 @ Aug 21 2014, 09:35 AM)
smaller MATX chassis is a lot easier to do and it's definitely cheaper than switching to mITX here are but a few of my favourites for MATX chasiss

BitFenix Prodigy-M
Silverstone TJ08-E
Xigmatek Aquila
Cooler Master N200
Thermaltake Armor A30
NZXT Vulcan

these are but a few that I can think of that can fit all your components for now
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After think deeply about it, I think im going to build sff as it benefits lot n term of space. Got 1k budget. Can stretch for cpu...Here my plan. Mostly I copy crayzee previous post. Here the thing I need to buy (cant recycle current)

Asus H87I-plus(1150) rm330
Silverstone ML07b Rm280
Silverstone ST45SF-G Rm360
Cpu haswell I havent think of.any suggestions?


Im using msi gtx660 gaming series. Will the psu 450watt enough?
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post Aug 23 2014, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(crayzee @ Aug 23 2014, 10:27 AM)
No i didnt install slim optical drive, there is no need for me. You can opt for external dvd writer, it's cheaper.
For CPU up to you, i've seen many ppl going for i7 4770 (4 core 4 HT) and xeon e3-1230v3 (4core 4HT no IGP) but for me i5 4460 is already enough (4 Cores)
You still need to add dust filter and casing fans, that shuld be another rm100++ biggrin.gif
ST45SF-G should be enough to support gtx660 (150w) as my gtx760 (170w) used without any issues. I've seen other forums ppl used GTX780 without issues as well.

After add up all those already exceed ur 1k budget  sweat.gif
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Im also no need optical drive.... max budget is 1.5k. After I sell parts, can get back rm500 mybe. Haha. Actually im not overclocking kind of guys. I just need good cpu for intensive app like photoshop, sony vegas, n of course gaming. Is i5 enough?

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post Aug 23 2014, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(crayzee @ Aug 23 2014, 11:01 AM)
i5 is more than enough enough for daily tasks and gaming. Even my old c2d dual core is sufficient for me doing photoshop work but they run on ssd tongue.gif

for video intensive app, you need more ram. Nowadays 8gb is should be enough if you dont do very big video editing.
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ML07B is out of stock. Seems that I have to go for raven. Other than raven rvz01, any alternative for sff case that can house long graphic card?
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post Aug 24 2014, 03:51 AM

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QUOTE(Edifier @ Aug 23 2014, 11:31 PM)
The ML07B will reach either end of this month or early of Sept.
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Thanks for the info
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QUOTE(mrbob @ Aug 25 2014, 11:02 PM)
Have you checked out Fractal Design's Node 304?
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That one is good. But I prefer slim profile. The only nice square profile I see is NCASE M1.extremely small
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post Aug 26 2014, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(mrbob @ Aug 26 2014, 08:55 AM)
The smaller the box, the less air that moves around. Even if you go for liquid-cooled solution you still need to move enough air to cool down the motherboard and HDDs (if any). Raven rvz01 seems like the best fit for your needs.
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post Aug 27 2014, 07:08 AM

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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Aug 26 2014, 07:50 PM)
Not just the RVZ01, the upcoming Lian-Li PC-Q19 should fit the bill nicely... brows.gif
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http://www.lian-li.com/en/dt_portfolio/pc-q19/
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