Asus P5N7A-VM is kinda hot at the chipset. Make sure you got some good airflow going through that location.

It runs 42c~50c, without onboard VGA.

The second cause of the heat on the Asus P5N7A-VM is because of the lousy chipset HS, the heat pipe is placed on top of the HS instead of going through the core contact, but you could add a 30mm fan to cool it down. I had to add two 120mm fans into my crowded SG03 to push more hot air out of the case, the noise is a pain in the ears.

Well aside from the new Nvidia chipsets, other chipsets like the intel G4x series or the other platform, like the AMD platforms is a good go.
However, im not sure how cool the new AMD platform runs, but i do know the Intel integrated and older AMD platform perform much more cooler than the GF9300.

Basically, its not recommended to run the P5N7A on SG02, Ive tried it on my other SG02 and the heat was accumulated badly in the case with or without extra exhaust fan.

Yeah i had the same thought, the main reason i switched to SFF because of the space i need on my table, at the same time I'm aiming for a fast setup in a small box, guess its kinda hard to get it right, not that its not possible.

I learned in the hard way by changing from SG02 to SG03, at least it'll last me for the next 4 years to come and hopefully wont break down due to excessive heat.

Also the galaxy 9800gtx+ fan is kinda weak, not much of a big cause since the heat is sucked out by a pci fan.

My chipset heat:

idle (under 23c room temperature)
38c~42c

idle (under 28c room temperature)
42c~46c

load (without integrated vga)
48c~50c

load (with integrated vga) this baby could run crysis @ low, lol
50c~70c+

load (without integrated vga during warm days, 28c+ room temp)
54c+

load (with integrated vga during warm days, 28c+ room temp)
70c~75c (BSOD @ 70c+)

NT06 ar, if all the sellers here out of stock then i think you have to stick to stock hsf for now, lol. I guess you'll have to wait for stocks then.

Btw, from my opinion, its best try not to use quad-cores or the current C2D 3.0ghz procs with such combination, the NT06 have to be fanless when inside the SG02, the quads or the duals with anything near 3ghz can heat up real fast in that case and hsf combination and by using only the PSU to pull the hot air from the cpu would do some damage in the long run.

Unless you are trying to do build a low profile spec system with a proc like :
Amd x2/x3
C2D 7xxx

Anyway, you can test out if you want, its just my two cents.

e8300/e8400 is kinda hot even in ATX cases as far as i know, the long term damage done could be around the area where the heat is stucked, especially the PSU, chipset and MOSFET .
There is not enough air pressure to push the hot air out of the back of SG02 unless you have the PSU fan modded to a 1.6k~2k rpm 12cm fan(overkill,lol), fitting in an NT06 would means there are no room for the FX121 fan.



Expect to see your CPU temps higher than normal, it is because the dissipated heat must pass through the NT06 before it is being sucked out of the case. The holes or mesh beside the case not only pulling cool air in but also pushing some part of the hot air out.

The air pressure of the SG02 is somewhat a flawed design for high-end stuffs, mostly because the main reason for this case is to enable a 10" card to be fitted into it, it is never designed with high end CPU , high power PSU , hot MOSFET , or the CHIPSET cooling in mind. Anyway, results may vary with different hardware, you should test it out with your current planned setup.

More over reviews results done by some site will show some 5c~10c heat difference as Malaysia's weather is kinda warm.



This post has been edited by LWRNCH6550: Jun 25 2009, 03:43 PM

No lah, just sharing what I've experienced so far. I don't own a SG01 , but the design is very much the same to SG02F unless it is the first generation SG01 where the HDD cage is facing the other way round.

I own only SG02F and SG03, tested both cases and the SG03 is the best although there is a price difference.
In order to have such a compact setup, you have to sacrifice your money/time to setup a nice SFF setup, unless its a low end spec setup.

Btw, your current spec list is fine but the AMD X3 7xx can also be your alternative, you just have to know how much power need for your usage.

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Added on June 25, 2009, 5:25 pm

Well my friend, that is the sacrifice of noise, speed, heat and money. There is no perfect balance on the configuration that suits our usage.

This post has been edited by LWRNCH6550: Jun 25 2009, 05:25 PM

The AMD PII X3 7xx is the competitor for the C2D 7xxx very much on par in performance. It may be abit warmer but you'll get an extra core for future use.

Well just keep in mind the graphic cards required 2x6pin or 1x6pin + 1x8pin might not be able to fit into Sugo cases, and it also depends on where the power connector is located and how thick is your graphic card power cables(especially with sleeving).

I've had experience with XQBOX as well, its a good case with Lan party capability like build in steel handle to bring it around. I first bought the XQBOX then changed to the SG02, then switched to SG03 and the old SG02 is filled up with the old setups left around my room serving as a "Guaranteed Old-game compatibility player"

Reason of switching :



I'm currently planning to remove all the fans in the sg03, insert two 1.6~2k rpm 12cm fans, it might be strong enough to push the hot air out and at the same time drawing cool air in with less spaghetti curling around the inside.

Btw, anyone knows any good recommendation on any good 12cm fans below RM50 a piece ? I'm thinking of getting Enermax Volcano.

ait, its Enermax Magma , i wrote volcano. lol
Hmm CM fans eh, ive been stopped using their fans for no reason, haha. I had thoughts of buying the CM 12 silent but none of them have detachable heads.

Nice, i saw this TT sff case sometime ago, but never read any reviews about it.

My favorite : Removable mobo tray , lol.

Xqbox and TT lanbox have it, even after so many models of SSt sugo they still don't have this feature, makes me wonder why. .

Ngbh is selling it, dunno still got stock or not , lol.

Nice ! free kick-@ss m-atx mobo ! But still My current favourite is the Rampage II Gene, i7 + SLi/CF = FTW !

Whoa ! nice Red Cube bro ! tired of the silver color ?
Btw, looks like Ferrari in a small box. lol

You can try checking out Zalman CNPS8700 LED or the SST NT05 CPU cooler, I'm planning to get one zalman soon, but didnt have the time to buy it and fix it yet. My current stock AMD HSF noise is killing me during high CPU load, running at 5~6k Rpm even someone else can hear it few rooms away.

Other than that I'm still having a hard time managing the cables to make it sleek eversince switching from Q6600 to the X6 1055T, but what the heck, as long it's running fine and i can care less for now.

Btw, community aint dead yet due to smaller users compare to the usual ATX/ATX+ platforms. Also there's nothing much happenning in the SFF market sections other than the Silverstone luxury good looking tong sampah design. But thats my personal speculation.

5 pcie slots, 4 at the bottom for PCI purpose and the top is either for cooling or fan controllers. I use that for exhaust by using a PCI FAN, you can take a look at the Fox 1 cooler . Originally the fan is facing upwards, you can just dismantle it and change the direction to draw hot airs from the mosfet/cpu area out.

http://www.evercool.com.tw/products/sb_f1.htm

As for the GPU, im not sure what PCI fan can help coz i've tried a few and noticed it's still better to use the FX-121 crossflow fan between the gpu and the cpu, big thing is its hard to come by that model coz i heard its part of the EOL line. Well, do some experiments with two PCI fans, see which results suits best and remember not to buy those RM5 PCI fans, they're not strong enough and might die faster in the long run.


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Also, forgot to mention, do include two high-perf 120mm fan at the front for air intake. It sure helps cool things down especially with high end GPUs/CPUs.

This post has been edited by LWRNCH6550: May 3 2011, 12:43 PM

True on the crossflow fan part, its hard to come by.

Other than the SG03, u can take a look on the XQ Box cuz i used to own one until i sold it away within a week, due to the clearance issue i had with the coolermaster modular PSU. Its a good casing though, very good for LAN party usage.

Personal advice though, if you are really into getting SG03 for the long run, get the alu version instead of the normal steel version, its worth for what you pay. The steel version is kinda...looks like badly build with tight time schedule in the factory.