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 My GF may be pregnant (Confirmed 4 weeks )

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layoff
post Mar 24 2009, 10:47 AM

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hey guys, a lot of you are campaigning for the life of the baby yeah?
most of you are being so unrealistic. you are aware that we're a consumer culture here right? everything costs money. TS needs a home to live in, so don't give him rubbish like abandoning the house for the sake of the baby. property prices will continually increase and so will the cost of living. unless you're committed to giving your baby the best of everything, including being able to support his/her medical healthcare/education/emergencies without having to resort to borrowing from friends/family/public welfare, you're thinking only about giving your baby a mediocre, substandard life. what if you never have a better job? what if you can't afford to buy a home later? and when rental costs rise and you are evicted, do you want your child to worry about getting displaced? don't think with your hearts. don't rely on your parents. you're an adult already, so settle it yourselves. the way your parents did when they had you. use your head. misfortune and accidents will happen. you're comfortably sitting in your air conditioned room, so you can play god. by god, if the same thing happened to you, i hope you guys are able to practice what you preach.
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post Mar 24 2009, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(LeechFever @ Mar 24 2009, 10:50 AM)
So u want to retain pride than the life of a baby. Good for you and good luck.
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it's not about pride. it's about the quality of life that TS can provide for his baby. if he decides to keep it. but if you come from a lower middle background, you probably wouldn't understand. also if you come from an upper middle, you can always rely on your family for support.

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post Mar 24 2009, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(LeechFever @ Mar 24 2009, 11:08 AM)
yeah yeah, still the same. U r the sort "rather kill urself if u r depress" or "better go die than live as a begger" type of guy. I get it. Anyway just let TS decide from now, though taking advice in a forum on abortion is rather......odd. go counseling will ya?

If TS decide to give the baby a chance, dont forget to tell ur child, "hey, thanks to lowyat, you didnt die, be grateful and spam". lol.
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hey dude, nowhere in my post have i mentioned that abortion is the solution. you're already judging me as "that type of guy", when i have never passed any judgment onto you. you have made this personal. what i was stating is merely facts based on my own observation of our society now, of situations faced by friends, family. no money, no talk, comprende?
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post Mar 24 2009, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(Buggo @ Mar 24 2009, 11:15 AM)
All the posts talking about the TS being selfish... It works both ways.

1. You give birth just because its ethical to do so
- You are selfish

2. You abort because you cant give the best to your child
- You are selfish

Henceforth, the term selfish is moot and should not even be brought up. And all you people who think raising a child is cheap, you obviously have not considered the child's future (school, books, uniforms, tuitions, toys, food, expenses, college, university, insurance, loans, etc.). All your arguments are valid only if a child remains a child forever, there will be no need for family planning at all. If the TS cant even start saving money now, forget about saving when the child is born. He will never have savings.

And please dont bring in religion talks. None of you here are holier than another, so dont give that "holier than thou" crap attitude. Be realistic for once and stop being emo freaks. Numbers dont lie and you need numbers to survive.

Please understand his situation before casting the first stone.
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can't agree more with you here. this forum also highlights the mentality of the people which reflect why this country is heading towards the shitters.
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post Mar 24 2009, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(RUI @ Mar 24 2009, 11:24 AM)
Ur argument is that dis child will need all these money immediately when birth...if u work out d expenses coherent to stage of child development...it won't cost u so much...my dad still hv money to burn in market when i'm around...they won't b earning 5.5K forever...though i hv to admit this is a tough recession n could b worst of all...but the thing is...u will remain where u are until u take challenge n do something about it...
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once when you've started to work, you'll probably look back at your statement, and might have to retract it. let's face it. not everyone will get beyond 5.5k. if everyone were to "naturally" have that ability to earn, or if you think that your salary will go up as you work for a longer period of time, you might want to think again. Not everyone has that ability to inch up the corporate ladder. there's a hierarchy in your career and you might never know if you've reached the plateau. during the times of your parents, there was a lot of opportunities, as our country was still developing and more new technologies were emerging, creating a lot of opportunities in various sectors. now you've reached the age where it's so competitive. everyone wants to earn, they do their best. they took the challenge. but not everyone will make it. not everyone can take the risk during times like these, especially when they've got a few mouths to feed.

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