looks like a shrimp.... yummy, protein.

Don't talk religion with me, boy.... i'm the biggest atheist in LYN.
Christianity also doesn't condone masturbation.... do u not do it at all, holy child?

Religion is as real as pamela anderson's boobs.

I only date one month then get married and give birth b4 my 1st aniversary. One year later another child enter into my life.
Husband the only breadwinner of the family with salary below rm4000 per month.

My fren date for 7yrs and decide to settle down but the GF left him on the year they should ROM.

Another fren of mine decide to get married after 2yrs. Start preparing everything from wedding dress to filling up ROM. But suddenly ran off few days they suppose to send in their ROM form leaving a sms saying she leaving him.

So, what u got to say to this??

means he did not use it le , what an A$$HOLE , and dun give me that BS that u are had sex how many times a year and start using statistics , coz you are one dumb FU*KED bas3rd ,

Flats are unhygienic , not suitable , all this are pure BS , then wtf we see students getting good results are from the poor family that live in a kampung with no proper utility , public flats ...

go ahead dude , console urself and convince urself , i really do hope the unborn baby will come back 2 haunt u for the rest of ur life

That is u lucky. what i mean is everything is stable. both of them already prepare to get baby.

U talk to me this that story also useless.. My GF discover with her husband and carry a 3yr child. On the time the situation same like TS. Everything not stable and no ready to hav baby.
She life very hard now with no over RM2k salary. Even me got a lot suppor also useless.
How u explain..? U want TS take risk to ask her gf raise it while he and her gf no prepare for it ?

Just because I think of my ex due to a song doesn't mean I love my GF any less. Ok? I'm human too and it was only a song. Read further along the thread and you will find that I didn't reply to it anymore. I got over it and stopped listening to that damn song. Ok? Happy?

Hey i didn't get what u said...
why don't you come tell me to my face what u wanna do with me again?
Try and see what i'll do to you

and you're the biggest idiot so far i've seen today
you said like that cause you know merely about it, alot people turn or go to church when they have trouble, and it's the church that help healing them, and this is the god's teaching that many are saved, what about you ? how many people that you have help latetly ? other than sitting on your comfy seat playing your favourite game ? the christian community have help so many people in the world without discriminating race, religion and status, even though some of our teaching may seems ridiculous but we have never run out of track which is helping people

the community that i was in now have handle thousand cases of divorce and abortion, and they do have the credibility to tell which is the right path and which is not, and these cases is increasing daily because of people like you have your own way of thingking without knowing the consequences, i hope you keep your selfish thinking to yourself and not spreading the bad things about it, simply because you know merely about it, cheers

Nah....!!! Send the child to anak yatim.
Father or mother still here cannot send child in! U no experience before dun simply say la.

Mother and father dun want care.. then kid end up at street.
After that police will bring back to u and send u to court.
After that will make decision who till take care it. Is father or mother.
After make decision if let say to father. then father no care about the child.. court will keep warning him or saman ihm.

Oh.... Maybe u are right. Dump the 1yr kid in shopping mall.
Sorry.. i 100% won't do that.
Ok... u can try it.

Looks like you're ready to have this child.
All the best to you if that's the case.

I posted once in 2nd page opposing d abortion...but now after spending some time readin 8 pages...it's really a tough decision to make...and I can't hold my stand anymore...

I guess not everybody is born equal...I hv my future well plannned ahead by my parents...I can basically get married n start a family now...that's why i won't argee wif abortion initially...

But if i'm in ur shoe, i'll would hv done wat u r doing...but first, i'll still consult both parents...things can b different...

As money concern, my parent brought me up at minimum cost but yet i din go bad egg like brother hawk will assume i would be and I hv made my calculation...i can settle d money spend on me by my parent within 1-3 years easily...my dad was a lecturer and was 42 when i'm born...he is active in stock market...i help him calculate his overall performance...he lost about 300K overall...and most of d losses was during my early days during 1987 and 1997 crisis...his salary as lecturer is far less than now, and he has 2 house installment to pay den as well...during that period, his financial situation could b worst than urs...he could hv just aborted me like how u will do...somehow, i'm still wondering where all his money from until now...but i know from my mum, he would rather break his back to compensate his greed and make sure v hv minimum to live wif...i personally think that there r alot of unneccessary xtra expenses for children nowadays...I still hv thoughts of he could hv shower me wif all his $$$ on material stuff instead of sharemarket...but i'm glad he din, bcos of that kind of upbringing...i'm simply better person than being spoiled...u don't need money to teach ur child to b a fine person...I'm not sure whether he think that he made a right decision...thing could b alot better back den not havin me around since i was sickly child, born wif several complications...but i'm VERY VERY VERY glad he took his chance...

This is another part of my family history...i'm supposed to hv a brother...but bcos of misfortune, he was dead b4 he is born and doctors hv to remove him from my mothers stomach...probably, that explain my birth complication...my mum will still wept everytime this topic is brought up...and my dad like usual, will just deny d existence...it's a trauma both my parents experience...

in ur case...it's ur call...watever decision u make...i hope all d best for both of u...we won't know wat future lies ahead...

You guys really have no heart. Want to advice also be more patient and gentle can anot?

Ya.. u right on this point if dunno the baby ID.
I still remember last time my cousin that he father and mother discover also. No body want to take care him. Search more then 5 rumah yatim but all dun accept him coz he mother and father still here.
After that we spend around 10K to "make" my cousin stay in rumah anak yatim

Want raise baby but dun want care about it. Raise for what ?
raise "cha siu" better la.. F**k my cousin father and mother. 

if my brother were to b born...i won't b around anymore...all my dad want is a son...tat was told on my face...

TS,

I hv the same problem as u. My GF (Now wife-lah) got pregnant b4 our planned traditional wedding which was supposely 6mth later.

So kelam kabut, we qucikly snapped our wedding photo (My wife was 2mth pregnant during the photo session) & decided to do a quick traditional wedding reception wth only relatives & no dinners or whatever...My financial was bad during that time, I got pay cut once my daughter was born (1998 market crashed!) & almost no money when I moved in to my current house....yet we gone thru all horrors & life getting even better now...we are married for 12yrs now..

well...they do try again...and gave birth to lovely tomboy...however, dis tomboy made some difference...he change my dad traditional perspective...bcos of her, son or daughter is d same...=D

All the posts talking about the TS being selfish... It works both ways.

1. You give birth just because its ethical to do so
- You are selfish

2. You abort because you cant give the best to your child
- You are selfish

Henceforth, the term selfish is moot and should not even be brought up. And all you people who think raising a child is cheap, you obviously have not considered the child's future (school, books, uniforms, tuitions, toys, food, expenses, college, university, insurance, loans, etc.). All your arguments are valid only if a child remains a child forever, there will be no need for family planning at all. If the TS cant even start saving money now, forget about saving when the child is born. He will never have savings.

And please dont bring in religion talks. None of you here are holier than another, so dont give that "holier than thou" crap attitude. Be realistic for once and stop being emo freaks. Numbers dont lie and you need numbers to survive.

Please understand his situation before casting the first stone.

hey dude, nowhere in my post have i mentioned that abortion is the solution. you're already judging me as "that type of guy", when i have never passed any judgment onto you. you have made this personal. what i was stating is merely facts based on my own observation of our society now, of situations faced by friends, family. no money, no talk, comprende?

TS haven't answer my question =(, i ask is he going to have sex again after the thing is over and he didn't give any sign or stance, looks like he gonna have it, sad =(

I posted the amount of money TS would need to spend until the baby is out to see the world so don't use it to scare those who has no experience here. It is true that having a child is a long term commitment, but think about it, sooner or later you'll have one soon so why kill the one you have now?