Marriage... is easier said than done. In his situation (mom bad physical condition, financially insecured, no savings, etc) if you consider all those and take into account while being RATIONAL, abortion is the way to go.

Dont go all ethics on me. Getting married for the sake of a baby WITHOUT considering the shit you are in, is even worst for the future of the baby.

However, Im not saying you should abort. What Im saying is, be RATIONAL, dont make decisions emotionally. Only do what you think you can manage. Give it a thought.

Are you referring to me?

Can I ask, have you started working? Do you know how much it costs to raise a baby? Do you know what happen to marriages when there is a financial crisis? Do you know what happens to the baby's growth when you are no longer capable of raising a kid or if you have constant arguments with your wife? Do you know why there are SO MANY kids up for adoption? Do you know why people sell children in the black market?

Like I said, be RATIONAL. Live within your own means. Dont just jump in and go all "Save the baby, save the world" without considering the future ahead. If an abortion will give you more pros than cons, then that is the solution. Unlike people who just spout nonsense about keeping a baby WITHOUT thinking AHEAD.

Ps. No one needs to know your gf had an abortion. Having an abortion might not give her mom a heartattack. You telling her, might.

Live within your own means. Be rational. Looking at things you have described, abortion is the best solution with compromisable outcome. Dont listen to all the crap about killing a child and all. Obviously, they do not think of possible future complications.

Only keep it if you are financially secured and you are serious about this relationship, other matters should not make you think otherwise. Live in the present, while you plan for your future.

Life isnt a fantasy story tale. Reality bites harder than you think. Get real.

I would assume most of the replies telling him to keep the baby and live happily ever after with no worries, are from immature people who had no idea whatsoever about responsibilities, both financially and emotionally as well as the time involved (not to mention the normal 9-5 working hours). Learn to be realistic.

He has only worked for 1 year. He has near to ZERO savings (anything less than 4 months of your own salary is NOT savings to be worth mentioning) and he has only been with the gf for 1 year. That is HARDLY STABLE.

For Gods sake, THINK with your brains. Ethics play no part whatsoever in this scenario if you cant even make it for the first FIVE years.

There already are ALOT of children abandoned/up for adoption. Do society a favor and NOT add to the pool.

Wow, still going on... All I want to say is:
1 year working experience
1.5 years relationship
1 baby(?)

I hardly see any stability in any aspects (Career instability, relationship instability, financial instability, responsibility, emotional, etc.). Marriage is nothing but a legal paper binding two souls together. Whats important is not the damn piece of paper but their companionship. Married couples get divorced too, dont forget that, let alone a relationship of ONLY 1.5 years.

"Working hard" doesnt guarantee you crap. This is the reality. Lots of people work hard too, that doesnt mean you wont have problems.

Oh and someone mentioned about poor people and having lots of children and working damn hard to survive. Well true, but what is the main reason for their poverty in the first place? Why are they suffering just to survive in this world? Because they are not living within their own means. (I am talking about those poor families who are not able to raise their own children)

If you are poor and you cant afford a kid, do you go make one (accidents or not) and then tell the world how much you have suffered just to keep that kid alive and shortly after, you make another and go "hey, life's a b****, I will take this as a challenge"? Who is suffering in the end - the kid. Who caused this - you. Who is he/she going to blame for insufficient guidance/providence - you.

Why am I negative in this scenario? Because you mentioned that if TS has time to whine and b**** over here, he should use his damn time to make more money instead. What happens to the kid if everyone else is busy making money just to make ends meet then?

There is a reason why people adopt family planning in this age, its the experience that the previous generations had gone through. Learning from your own mistake is wise, learning from another person's mistake is wiser.

Anyway, good luck TS! Im sure you have thought it through before making your decision.

All the posts talking about the TS being selfish... It works both ways.

1. You give birth just because its ethical to do so
- You are selfish

2. You abort because you cant give the best to your child
- You are selfish

Henceforth, the term selfish is moot and should not even be brought up. And all you people who think raising a child is cheap, you obviously have not considered the child's future (school, books, uniforms, tuitions, toys, food, expenses, college, university, insurance, loans, etc.). All your arguments are valid only if a child remains a child forever, there will be no need for family planning at all. If the TS cant even start saving money now, forget about saving when the child is born. He will never have savings.

And please dont bring in religion talks. None of you here are holier than another, so dont give that "holier than thou" crap attitude. Be realistic for once and stop being emo freaks. Numbers dont lie and you need numbers to survive.

Please understand his situation before casting the first stone.

I mean numbers = $$ ...

Please factor in inflation. Not everything is as easy as you think it is. Salaries increase together with the cost of living. If everyone's salary has been increasing, there will be no poor OLD people.

By saying "... dont use it to scare those who has no experience here." it just means that its real and that you have been hiding that fact. All you said was the costs to bring the child out, which we all know, is anytime cheaper than keeping the child healthy as well as giving him good upbringing.

The reason why some people choose to have a baby later and not now, is simple. Why dont we just give births at the legal age of 16? Since you are going to have it anyway. I am merely using your own statements for a different scenario, which I am sure you will disagree strongly, unless proven otherwise.