Being "realistic" is murder.

Aborting is for the sake of "can't afford". LOL!

I'm sure regarding buying new gadgets/going for movies/nice restaurant, no need 2nd thoughts... as long as both can be in romantic mood.

When a baby "reluctantly" comes into the picture, starts worry about the "cost" of raising it. I'm sure these couple FAILED/REFUSE to factor out their spending on the "sin stuff".

It's more like refusal to change their lifestyle to accomodate the new life. Pure irresponsibility.

What is almost sure will happen if the baby aborted. The female will more or less regret her whole life thinking about her action, and this might caused depression as the years go by... weeping for the unborn. Hope TS will matured up enough to handle her future wife and provide emotional support there for her.

chill. cool down yo!

actually, yeah. the spirit of the aborted child will follow the mother for quite some time.

@TS:
my advice to you is to keep your child.

like many others have said, cut down your expense on other things.

That is u lucky. what i mean is everything is stable. both of them already prepare to get baby.

U talk to me this that story also useless.. My GF discover with her husband and carry a 3yr child. On the time the situation same like TS. Everything not stable and no ready to hav baby.
She life very hard now with no over RM2k salary. Even me got a lot suppor also useless.
How u explain..? U want TS take risk to ask her gf raise it while he and her gf no prepare for it ?

true also , but it's just that he didn't wanna reveal whether did he or did not ,

no le i'm just angry when i see all these naive idiots ...

Durex extra safe also can pecah , lolz

Just because I think of my ex due to a song doesn't mean I love my GF any less. Ok? I'm human too and it was only a song. Read further along the thread and you will find that I didn't reply to it anymore. I got over it and stopped listening to that damn song. Ok? Happy?

can send the kid to anak yatim house mah....

Hey i didn't get what u said...
why don't you come tell me to my face what u wanna do with me again?
Try and see what i'll do to you

i know lar..i tot it was ur ex that pregnant..

so now u settle down jor...kahwin first ler...

actually, durex safe has spermicide in it, and all the sperms should die.

@TS:
you really decided to abort?

make sure you stand by your girl, support her, console her, make her happy etc.

world war 3 is happening now....

Perhaps you can consider "lowering" your monthly costs?

House (Monthly loan payments) - RM 2,000
>> I believe at the end of the day, you have to make a decision which is more important. The new house or the baby<<

Car Loan - RM 500
>> This will be necessary for working, but only if there are no other realistic alternatives<<

House Rental - RM 1,000
>> Nice condo for RM800 rental are available, but must be hardworking in looking for it, i believe<<

Food and Utilities - RM 500
>> Understandable for KL ppl<<

Other loans - RM 200 (Minimum Payment)
>> Understandable<<

Support for Family - RM 500
>> Understandable. Maybe can rediscuss with family? Considering the unborn baby?<<

Traveling expenses - RM 800 (Petrol, toll, parking)
>> As per car loan, only if there are no other realistic alternatives<<

king83 cool down lar...

i saw u brought down a king kong with pictar b4

and you're the biggest idiot so far i've seen today

you said like that cause you know merely about it, alot people turn or go to church when they have trouble, and it's the church that help healing them, and this is the god's teaching that many are saved, what about you ? how many people that you have help latetly ? other than sitting on your comfy seat playing your favourite game ? the christian community have help so many people in the world without discriminating race, religion and status, even though some of our teaching may seems ridiculous but we have never run out of track which is helping people

the community that i was in now have handle thousand cases of divorce and abortion, and they do have the credibility to tell which is the right path and which is not, and these cases is increasing daily because of people like you have your own way of thingking without knowing the consequences, i hope you keep your selfish thinking to yourself and not spreading the bad things about it, simply because you know merely about it, cheers

Nah....!!! Send the child to anak yatim.
Father or mother still here cannot send child in! U no experience before dun simply say la.

*you are making me want to read this thread less and less and you are indirectly contributing to killing this child because I may stop reading a post that actually changes my mind.*


Thanks for pushing the responsibility of killing a child to a public forum. You just want to push the blame to someone else. Ppl like you make the world a worst place..


On another note, there are ppl who could raise 5 children and jz earning less than 2-3k. Look at the fisherman who's daughter got 20 A (or something like that) in SPM.

U deleted my other previous sentence. Dont tell me u really need ur parents' permission lol.

PS: Last post or else this feeding this throll so that he'll happy masturbating in his tiny room.

stop the war, stop the war. don't hijack TS's thread!!!! there's an abortion thread in Real World Issue!!!!!

This post has been edited by toda_erika_II: Mar 24 2009, 10:34 AM

king83 has his strong points as well.....

do does daruma...so what is the executive decision in the end?

You're being very vague, my friend.
I know heck a lot more about the bible than you.
I've read the damn book, so i can judge.

come back after you read it rather than being vague.
Let's go into specifics if u can.

who say that?

if the mother and father also dun wan care..the kid end up out the street ..let say 1 years old only....

send the kid to where?