So, the moral of this thread is...

Don't screw around when you don't have moo-lah!

In this cruel world, money is everything... even poor people need them more than rich people.

hawk you got something else to said about this, people that are married and have kids, and they seems to be immature to you ?

i'm totally agree with her human are just full of excuses

       

Y u agree with her but dun say agree with me?
I know she pretty and im not.....     

ROFLMAO...

If u didnt noticed, the JUDGE i mention is the God.
But heck, i know you are your own god.

SilverHawk birdy says that infant hasno life before some stages...3 months or something? i dont know..

the life he refer to maybe the formation of heart and beginning of heartbeat gua? but the life i refer to in a spiritual way, usually not easily to be understand by the people who easily deciding on going abortion. coz they think abortion does not involve destroying a life.

hawk you got something else to said about this, people that are married and have kids, and they seems to be immature to you ?
i'm totally agree with her human are just full of excuses

Y u agree with her but dun say agree with me?
I know she pretty and im not.....     

Well, for those who are interested, the baby has been confirmed. The doctor confirmed the embryo is 4 weeks old and is about 1.5cm's in diameter. After much discussion with the doctor as well as family planning therapist, it has been decided that we are going to terminate the pregnancy. Termination will proceed this Wednesday so I hope that if indeed you are morally good people as you like to think you are, please pray for me and my gf as we make this very difficult decision. I asked her to keep the pregnancy just because I would like to have a child but after discussing things rationally we both have to agree that this is the best for all parties. On the brighter side of things, I have asked her to marry me and she has accepted. This does not change our decision to terminate the pregnancy as we cannot give the kind of support a child deserves in this troubling age. I may have lost a child... but at least I have gained a fiancee...

Thank you once again for your advice and kind words, especially to those who have supported me in this very difficult choice that I am forced to make...

I'm not really sure what I expect to gain from posting on these forums. I guess I'm just looking to see if anyone here has been in a similar situation and what they did. My GF and I have been dating for more than a year now and we're usually very careful about our sexual activities, but she missed her period this month (kind of - there's bleeding just not a lot of it ) and so we did a pregnancy test that came up positive. She's going to the doctors today to get confirmation whether or not she's pregnant.

This is happening at a not so good time as although I'm working and earning a decent salary, I don't have much saved up as I've only been working for about a year. She is also earning a good pay and technically speaking we could afford to raise a kid together. But the problem is that our parents would definitely freak out about this and her mum is especially sensitive to these matters. To make matters worse, her mum is not in the best physical shape and telling her this is likely to cause enough stress to break her...

Me and my GF have discussed this and no matter how we try, if she is pregnant, we don't seem to be able to come to a comfortable resolution.. It seems that the only way out of this situation is to terminate the pregnancy...

I'm really reluctant to do this...

If your gf really pregnant. Just go for it and marry. I am sure their parent will accept it after they "Freak OUT" for few days....no worry brother...cheers...

All the best to you

bluelady,

Double *hugs*. We're on the same boat. I've been through it as well and sometimes you happen to think "What if I didn't do it?". And now that all my friends have either just given birth or are pregnant I feel like getting pregnant too coz the feeling just sinks into u. I am also worried that I might not be able to conceive again due to the abortion. It's like "what if the doc didn't do a good job?" "what if I didn't take good care of my body after the abortion?" And all the little things that lead to me not being able to conceive again... sad.gif

Especially to chonglisa and Diana - heartlfelt hugs to u both smile.gif Only those who have gone thru dis procedure knew that it was stupid but in my case it was my FH who was the one that suggested for me to go thru dis procedure as he said he was not ready to be a father yet as we both are not working yet. I was so devastated when he said that. We did not tell both our parents and we took this matter into our own hand. I researched for places to conduct this procedure and my FH did all the cash savings. Sigh. *SO STUPID OF ME TO AGREE!!!* If I were to keep the baby, he/she would be 4yrs old and might be in kindergarten already. *sob sob* sad.gif

Sorry for the wrong misinterpret the abortion words...

actually i thought i need to bring this secret with me to grave but then the more i read this forum, i think i can get some advice or perhaps hopes for someone to scold me out coz i really feel myself so childish and stupid...

like the others, i had once but its not my fh, its my ex's. this happened before i ever know my fh. my ex cheated on me and i feel that his not loving me anymore. we'd been together for 4 years and he start to see a girl which he been admired from child. even though we'd been for 4 years but we havent ML before,just some occasion hug and kiss. so i get to know that and in order to have him back to my side, i give up my V to him. who knows one time already kena! he insist not to wear condom so i think 'one time ok gua'....but still...

i'm very very sad coz by the time i had abortion, its already 15 weeks. i went to one of the gynae and when he scan my stomach, i can see the little one. and i will have to let it go the very first thing the next morning. i cant sleep the night before (the most horrible sleepless night i had) i know i should be scold and beat just bcoz of my foolishness.

i cried even more when 3 months later, he ask for a break off and that is on my 21st birthday. its a shame to me if i told this to anyone.

Hi ladies,

I've got a confession here as well. I did an abortion too about 2 years ago. I do hate myself till now when think of the unborn. I think that I'm so cruel even though I've made a confession at our church. For us Catholic, abortion is strictly prohibited.

Went to see SinSei but he just said I late period, cold inside. So, just took medicine. This went on till the 5th month, so FH took me to the clinic and we were shocked to find out that I was 5 months pregnant!

It was a hard decision for us to make due to the both of us love kids but due to financially not ready we are unable to have the baby at that moment. I always pray that this unborn will be my baby when my next pregnancy when we get married. I do afraid that I might not get pregnant anymore due to the abortion.

I'm really sorry for what I've done. But I always wanna tell our baby that "dad & mum will always love you"

i am so sorry and sad to hear wat u all experience.i neva experience but i have a story to share..i am so sad when tinking of it..my bf sis she 3 times miscarriage..the first and 2nd is like mostly those newly wed pregnant woman...all of us very sad..the old say its normal..."first time" pregnant..sum will experience..so nvm..she try n try n try..and at last her 3rd pregnancy..she n her husband r so careful n happy when she pass the first 3 mths period..so were so happy and cant wait for the baby..from baby clothes to baby toys,,,everything they bought to welcome the newborn baby...but 1 week before her maternity,she sense tat baby din move,and she go check with doc,doc say cant sense the heart beat,mostly no more chance of survive,but u kow chinese,sure go ask the "god",and the "god"say the baby is safe...and still alive..so they wait for 1 more week to go for delivery..but the end,the baby din get the chance to see his parent...all of us were sad..my bf mum cry...every1 cry..but we still hope the baby now is reborn and live happily with the new parent..i am sad cos she hardly can get pregnant due to the first n 2nd experience and finally the third time success..and carry the baby for 9 mths..experience wat the goin to be mum shd do...but the fate still arrive.. sad.gif

any baby's life that is taken on purpose by another human being is considered killing. this can be observed by certain laws, e.g. if a mother with unborn child is murdered, it would be considered double homicide.
its a hard decision if the baby has genetic problems e.g. down syndrome. it really depends on the strength of the parents beliefs and how they choose to deal with the situation.

i really admire this woman, not because of her politics, but her choice to keep her baby even though knowing the medical issues.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=64876

Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska is known for being attractive (a former pageant winner, she was featured in a Vogue photo shoot this year), forceful (her opponents have nicknamed her "Sarah Barracuda") and a possible running mate for John McCain. Challenging circumstances now also have made her a shining example of personal pro-life convictions.

In December, her doctor told her that prenatal tests indicated the child she was expecting in May would be born with Down syndrome, a genetic condition that stems from an extra chromosome and that impedes a child's physical, intellectual and language development.

Only one year into her governorship and with four children at home already, a child with Down syndrome would present serious challenges. Studies in the late 90s showed that more than 80 percent of prenatal Down syndrome diagnoses end in abortion.

Ending the pregnancy, however, was never an option for the Palins. On April 18, Sarah Palin gave birth to a 6-pound, 2-ounce son, Trig Paxson Van Palin.

"We've both been very vocal about being pro-life," Palin told the Associated Press, speaking of herself and her husband, Todd. "We understand that every innocent life has wonderful potential."

The day after the birth, the Palins released the following statement: "Trig is beautiful and already adored by us. We knew through early testing he would face special challenges, and we feel privileged that God would entrust us with this gift and allow us unspeakable joy as he entered our lives. We have faith that every baby is created for good purpose and has potential to make this world a better place. We are truly blessed."

In an e-mail she sent to relatives and friends the day of Trig's birth, she wrote: "Many people will express sympathy, but you don't want or need that, because Trig will be a joy…Children are the most precious and promising ingredient in this mixed-up world…Trig is no different, except he has one extra chromosome."

dear all,

im quite actually interested in this topic..i did abortion twice before,one time was two years ago when i was 20 and another time was just happened recently which was 2 months ago. I really want to find someone to talk with and share with me.i did the first time together with my bf without notified anyone because we did not know what to do and we were still young,im just started my uni life during tat time..so without having other choice, i did it the next day i knew i was pregnant.

After the two months of the abortion, i found out i have a cyst at my right fallopian tube.i and my bf were so worried that im not able to pregnant in the future because of the cyst.i did consult doc and the doc said no need to worry,it wont affect my ovulation & fertilization.i don't know whether its true onot,maybe the doc only want to comfort me.i hv been worried this for two years.

Its so surprise when my second baby came..my bf was so happy and he decided to marry me and of course he did informed his family as well. But for me,the baby came in the wrong timing..im going to graduate next year.if i choose to give birth,i may hv to postphone my graduation because my baby will come to the world on March. After giving birth,a lady has to rest at home for at least a month.so how can i continue my study?dont i hv to give up my study or the baby?

i really dilemma during that time.as my bf requested,i had told my mom about my pregnancy.once she knew it,she bantah me to marry..haiz...there are lots of reasons given..i did quarreled with my mom.until the end,i did the second abortion again.im really really worry it will affect the possibility to get pregnant
in the future...will it???i hope it wont.till now,my bf still blaming me..sometimes when we quarrelled,he did ask me to return his baby 2 him.im realli sad and sometimes when think about my baby,i feel regret..

i know its the passed,but it will always in my mind..unforgetable. sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif

t@llgal, I'll share with you something my parents told me when I got married.

There is no manual to everything in life, especially marriage and parenting. But lets concentrate on the parenting bit because what you mention disturbs me - "its not easy to take care and nurture a kid..it is done through knowledge and experience..."

There is no guide or manual to being a parent. Ask any parent and they will tell you that they were NOT experienced neither wise about parenting methods when they had their first child. Even so-called experienced parents (people with more than one kid) aren't perfect as each child is different and thus will give you a different experience/situation/crisis. If you think that knowledge and experience will help you raise a better, more productive and positive child, you could be wrong on many counts.

Also, there is a danger in knowing too much about your future and relying too heavily on someone like a fortune teller who can be as imperfect as the next human being for details on where your life is heading. You and anyone else here is in control of your life and the choices that you make. It is an escapist who makes excuses for their life journey by saying that "the fortune teller told me this so I do this lor".

Anyway, if you have decided to that you want to establish a career first, then why are you having unprotected sex? Unprotected sex carries with it the risk of pregnancies and etc. You've made the mistake once, to make it again (which you have) just means that you really don't care about the consequences. Learn, learn, learn. Don't be like those students I used to teach - they think they are educated but when it comes to the basics, eg protecting themselves, they couldn't be bothered and some don't even know what condoms are.

It's great that your BF is willing to marry you but think - is it his body that has to put up with the chemicals and abortion procedures? Will he be haunted by guilt for the rest of his life? A woman goes through more than a man emotionally and physically during an abortion and its aftermath (living with the guilt). Why are you so reckless and unloving of yourself?

Since you say you cannot forget (naturally), take stock, and learn from your mistakes well.