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TSgkl83
post Mar 22 2009, 09:18 PM, updated 17y ago

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Anyone using it now? is this product able to save the TNB monthly billing?
Or just a gimmick even though approved by sirim?
Seem they have their booth for each property exhibition... doubt that their product able to bring the benefit to us...
It claim able to stabilize the current flow, impower power efficiency, reduce wire temperature and prolong life span of electric appliances...

http://www.e2saver.com.my
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post Mar 22 2009, 09:26 PM

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im read some review and comment before..forgot abt link...
overall= suk!

some cust says..first bill decreast but next month...back to normal...
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post Mar 22 2009, 09:36 PM

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http://forums.treehugger.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=6271
http://michaelbluejay.com/electricity/powerfactor.html

It's a power factor correction device.
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post Mar 22 2009, 10:28 PM

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so overall it just a gimmick only?
it worth RM359 if no mistaken...

hence my new house using 3 phase wiring...
according to brouchers, it said required 1 unit for each phase... means RM1k for that things... sweat.gif
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post Mar 23 2009, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Mar 22 2009, 10:28 PM)
so overall it just a gimmick only?
it worth RM359 if no mistaken...

hence my new house using 3 phase wiring...
according to brouchers, it said required 1 unit for each phase... means RM1k for that things...  sweat.gif
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and u buy lah adn post ur feedback here..heheheh
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post Mar 23 2009, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(Witchblade @ Mar 23 2009, 09:36 PM)
and u buy lah adn post ur feedback here..heheheh
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budget constraint for my new house oledi joh... sweat.gif
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post Mar 24 2009, 04:47 PM

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I saw them promoting at certain shopping malls but I think the response isn't good. Maybe you can't notice the difference for residential area, perhaps a factory? Not sure about that also. Can't really comment much.
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QUOTE(agape_ian @ Mar 24 2009, 04:47 PM)
I saw them promoting at certain shopping malls but I think the response isn't good. Maybe you can't notice the difference for residential area, perhaps a factory? Not sure about that also. Can't really comment much.
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Motor or those electrical device that will cause lag in your AC current, may be only will beneficiary from the power factor improvement. Ordinary lighting which doesn't causing power factor lag, you won't notice it at all.

All factories are installing capacitor on the MCB as TNB's requirement is power factor can't be less than 0.85 or 85% otherwise, they will penalty you.
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post Mar 24 2009, 05:17 PM

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so means that it almost zero value for resident areas? unless the houses heavy air con usage...
right?
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post Mar 24 2009, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Mar 24 2009, 05:17 PM)
so means that it almost zero value for resident areas? unless the houses heavy air con usage...
right?
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Just back from Ace Ikano they have demo unit there. After the e2saver is ON can see the Current reading on the Amp meter drop from 1.5A to 0.7A.
I saw before a bridal house in ss2 also using with 3 Phase using 3 units of this product.

Quite impressive thou... but the salesman kinda "Arrogant".


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QUOTE(spacepilot @ Mar 24 2009, 06:07 PM)
Just back from Ace Ikano they have demo unit there. After the e2saver is ON can see the Current reading on the Amp meter drop from 1.5A to 0.7A.
I saw before a bridal house in ss2 also using with 3 Phase using 3 units of this product.

Quite impressive thou... but the salesman kinda "Arrogant".
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From engineering point of view, it cannot drop at this kind of rate, as power factor correction is somehow like a few % up to teen number % improvement, unless the origin power is severely lag in the first place.

If you motor is 1HP (0.75KW) and running at its full capacity, your power consumption would be 750/230v = 3.26amp.
So if you want to consume 1.5amp to run at 1HP, there is no way unless you sacrifice the motor running speed only

Power = voltage x current (amp).

To have real and actual power saving, tell the salesman to install it in your house, then see the Amp drop how many, only then we can have actual figure to compare. Otherwise, any demo unit can be customised to show extra-ordinary good effect.


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oh , The ENERGY SAVER thing..... I think there's another Brand beside E2....

I saw the Demo , it was Quite impressive ...
its the Amp meter thingy which drop from 1.5A to 0.7A when u turn on the Product.......
the wat they claim is the Product will stabilize ur Electrical Current to prevent Electricty wastage.....if i am not wrong The Promo price is RM 199 per unit.... The salesman told me They have a 3 months Money Back Guarantee if Ur Electricity Bill does Not Reduce within that 3 Months...( The salesman say u need to Show the Proof as in the Bill Before using & the Bill After... )

& think there will be more of this kinda Product coming to our market..... biggrin.gif

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post Mar 25 2009, 06:25 PM

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this kind of item exist long time ago, wander why the price keep increasing? if not mistaken before i go to us in 2003 i saw ppl selling in midvalley for rm99 now wah rm300 till 1k also got. any one can give solid testimony? 1.5a to 0.7a like 40% saving ler tongue.gif

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post Mar 27 2009, 11:46 PM

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I'm using it since last year but i don't see the diff in my TNB bill. So, i don't encourage to buy.
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Mar 27 2009, 11:46 PM)
I'm using it since last year but i don't see the diff in my TNB bill. So, i don't encourage to buy.
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Oh Really ar ...

ANY1 Else also uses it But NO REDUCTIONS In the Electrical Bill ???.... Or Got Savings instead ??...

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post Apr 1 2009, 12:41 PM

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same here sad.gif - bought the E2 saver and have been monitoring it for the last 2 months. So far no savings yet. Will take it to the vendor for refund if no diff in electric bill tis month too vmad.gif
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QUOTE(slyren00 @ Apr 1 2009, 01:41 PM)
same here sad.gif - bought the E2 saver and have been monitoring it for the last 2 months. So far no savings yet. Will take it to the vendor for refund if no diff in electric bill tis month too vmad.gif
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Maybe its the anti-libido effect? I mean when you bought the device in hope to help you save $$. then you proceed to "over-use" your electricity as there's a e-saver to help you lessen the bill. In the end, the bill value is not much difference from previous.

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post Apr 1 2009, 01:23 PM

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It is a PF CORRECTION and only work for motorised mechanism. if you are electrical wise, just buy some capacitor and diy and, plug into the wall socket. but, of course not recommended.

lastly, it is a scam product.
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post Apr 1 2009, 10:53 PM

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don't bother with this product, i've tried and after two mths asked for a refund.....i had also asked myself if i unconsciously 'over-used' and went to the extent of measuring the usage on daily basis for few days, with and without the device....no diff
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post Apr 2 2009, 09:24 AM

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Do not buy this product. I have tried it few years ago. After 3month usage, no different. Take back for refund and show them my bill. The manager bla, bla, bla and ask me try again. Lastly cause some surge current and blow my few adaptor and trip my breaker. Take it out and throw it away.
To save current, Just change your fluresent light to energy saving bilb. Use inverter aircon and reduce the heater running product. Nowaday, electrical item already have this kind of energy saving device.


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