well, from my opinion, i don't see why MMu don't wanna earn more if they can~ i think u can check from bulletin board that one of the SRC had put on a thread on starting a class, poor fella~ my advice is that u check the bulletin board for the last semester and then talk directly to him and ask, he's still in SRC after all

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Added on March 23, 2009, 12:08 amstandard depends on many factors, supply and demand being one, the government & money being another and nearer to student, it's the professional bodies and in-campus politics~ let me tell u, CPA reported last month that they were not aware of the policy change of MMu, they didn't know about the W model~ so account students, take note~ when a new president comes in with new policies, can u say no to it, i wonder~ will a Dean say no? everyone is working for a payslip at the end of the month and dare u say no to the boss?

as for the W model, it has been implemented and will not be changed from what I've read in the SRC blog

i'm in social university aka working, fortunately~ my sis is in MMu~

This post has been edited by sexualpower: Mar 23 2009, 12:08 AM

W model as in bell curve graph marking, yes i read it has been abolished,the new grading policy is based on the marks and grades, which means, what you see is what you get. (frm src webby)

This post has been edited by Bigblock: Mar 23 2009, 12:50 AM

thanks for the recommendation. just want to confirm, SE is not under any of the ENGINEERING in the MMU?
and any chances to go to abroad in MMU? there is no twinning program ?

SE is only on software~ there is a course called Electronics majoring in Computers, this is the one on hardware~ I'm aware of partnership with China's university but I've never heard of any twinning programs in MMU~ so far, no twinning program for MMU students~ closest I've heard is the student exchange program to Japan for 1 semester~

I don't think it is a fair comment to say that just because a university has a high failure rate, therefore it is bad. For certain truly difficult subjects, it should not be unexpected to have failures.

I would be worried if nobody fails in a particular university. That would mean that the standards in that university is extremely poor, and any tom d*** and harry will graduate. In the long run, someone who has a degree from there would find it worthless as potential employees would shun it like the plague (ask around the industry and most hiring managers have a list of local unis to avoid for particular fields).

I think prior to abolishing the Bell Curve marking system, the quality in MMU has been in decline (have been hearing this often from my friends in industry) due to looser enrollment standards (bound to happen as we have far too many unis, and there are only so many top quality students, universities have to cari makan and will have to let in a quota every year) and poor quality control.

I think seeing more failures in MMU is a positive development. It is not like you have only 1 chance to pass the subject. If you couldn't make it through the first time, retake the subject and work harder the next time around.

Lecturer quality can of course still be improved, and i think it is being done with the new policy that is targeting full PhD. academic staff in the near future. The new administration is also taking complaints against lecturers seriously. I know of some who have been hauled up to the disciplinary board because of their poor class performance.

This post has been edited by elhh82: Mar 23 2009, 08:03 AM

Are you an ex MMU student? Thanks for the input anyway yes its true MMU might be growing in a positive way but making the rules strict does not mean it is good for the student s who are paying almost 1K per subject you see.
Because i belive we dont use out academics 100% in our job. It may vary by job scope also but mainly the basics is very important. Getting too strict without high end accreditation/lecturer upgrade is not positive growth anyway.
But yeah i am yet to see all this as results are not everything. Your communication and ability to perform your basics with ease is the best.

This post has been edited by Bigblock: Mar 23 2009, 10:29 AM

[quote=RainJR,Mar 21 2009, 01:14 PM]
i send adi my application to MMU,but i havent receive any letter which inform me they had receive my application. when i'm checking online admission status, keep on error. I sent my application also to TAR College on the same day with MMU's. But,TAR College already replied and my application at there under consideration. May I know what is going on ?

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mmu always lousy in providing services.. they reply your email in 3 working days? 5 working days? no.. !! even when u check with their staffs regarding your application.. you will get the blame for sending you application form "late" (around the closing date, whereas the application still open).. i think src should concern more in this matter because this is the place where new student get their first impression about mmu..


[QUOTE][quote=ISFJ,Mar 21 2009, 04:04 PM]
Can I know the fees for a bachelor's degree in Electric & Electronic Engineering or Electronic Engineering majoring in Telecommunications in MMU for the 2009/2010 intake? I've searched the MMU website but I couldn't find anything about it.

Also, when is the deadline for the application for the June intake?

Thank you

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mmu don't have E&E.. it's either pure electrical or pure electronics or specialize electronics engineering..


[QUOTE][quote=Bigblock,Mar 21 2009, 04:55 PM]
I see... but what are the current prices? hows the new president?since your an src rep in melaka?

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price for engineering courses are approximately 47k... (not including 'special' fees they going to charge you after u drop into the trap)


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Added on March 21, 2009, 4:30 pm

u need to register at most by end of may... if end of may, u need to come to mmu and do registeration manually and is not recomended. best to just get the form and then mmu will send u an offer letter... then u need to send some money... about 1.8K...

for E and E in mmu... I think is better if u go UNITEN instead. But the fee is around 35K

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Thank you for the information. May I ask, why did u recommend studying E&E Eng. in UNITEN instead of MMU?

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because mmu don't have E&E.. that's y UNITEN is suggested..


[QUOTE][quote=purplelized,Mar 21 2009, 11:54 PM]
Does MMU offer Telecommunication Engineering course? What is the qualification? and may i know bout the fees?

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mmu offer BEng Electronics majoring in telecommunication... requirements are simply principal passes for physics and math.. fees around 47k.. might varies..

This post has been edited by PikachuPikachu: Mar 23 2009, 04:29 PM

the word "engineering" means "the process of making"~ most of the time, in profession, the word refers to physical and tangible objects and therefore, we get electrical and electronics engineerings (circuit board), mechanical engineering (engine), robotics engineering (automation) but when it comes to software engineering, u'll be making softwares through building computer codes and then compiling them to become programs~

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Added on March 23, 2009, 8:07 pmu're right, it's not fair to say that high failure rates makes a university bad~ in my opinion, asking "why would high failure rate happen in the first place?" would be a better question~ thanks for your post and lets have a look. here are some possible opinions to why there are high failure rates :
- One of Utar's professor who is an associate dean mentioned that there are measures that ensure that failure rates as high as 50% would not happen (logic : there may be a thorough discussion prior to a policy and not just implementing)

- who will be responsible when students fail? (logic : 1) the intake policy, 2) lecturers' final questions relating to what he/she has taught 3) the quality of the education from the aforementioned lecturer, 4) policies which does not have space for any adjustments in case of human error like the abolished W model, 5) the students' studies) even if it is the students who are at fault here, it wouldn't be as logic as the aforementioned logic 1 - 4, i wonder "which student doesn't want to pass?" by the way, do u know that if u get just a credit in science and maths, you can be admitted to MMu in the year I enrolled?

- quality of MMu declining before the abolishment of W model? any proof on this one? (logic : I've seen with my own eyes the past year question papers available from the library and I advice u to have a look as well)

- pls be aware that there has been pre-requisites in all courses in MMu at this moment~ any failure of most of the subjects, i estimate 90% of the subjects, would mean that a student has to extend at least 1 year in order to graduate if he/she doesn't want to squeeze that particular subject into the already packed university schedule (logic : an estimated 95% of the subjects offered will only be offered in 1 specified semester and none other, if a person fails a subject, he/she has to wait 1 academic year in order to retake it) will the future students of MMu have to grad with 4 - 6years as opposed to other university students? we're here to learn, not only here to be forced to waste time and be graded~

full PhD academic staff... I'll vote u as student representative, my friend~ but not as a president~ no pain no gain~ full PhD academic staff would burn a hole in every student's wallet, as well as having low efficiency for those PhD staffs because they are the only ones who can provide Masters~ if they are going to provide Masters, these students have to choose between part-time or full-time~ If part-time Masters pursuers are not allowed to be lecturers, the cost of maintaining the academic staff would be tremendous and then the square one question arises, why not let Masters qualified PhD pursuers be part-time lecturers to save cost? I guess that shed some light~

thanks for your questions, I think u helped a lot in clearing doubts~


This post has been edited by sexualpower: Mar 23 2009, 08:07 PM

Is there any way I can check my application status once I've sent my application and the supporting documents? And is it true that I have to send the documents in one week after I've applied online?

you're one of the src, aren't you suppose to encourage students to enter MMU instead of promoting other universities?

This post has been edited by irix: Mar 23 2009, 08:49 PM

i guess everyone here is "encouraging students to pick the most suitable place" instead of "encouraging students to enter MMu"~ i think that regret is one of life's biggest enemy~ it is the "I should have found out more before I make that decision"~ I hope this thread will help by giving information without censorship and without bias~ I was thinking about when someone would actually ask about the benefits of studying in MMu that can't be found anywhere else in other institutions~ I don't think there is anything special in MMu~ it seems like a regular higher learning institution that is having some unresolved issues that are affecting students since June 2009~

MMu may have jurisdiction over at SRC like the previous anti-corruption agency before the MACC was formed~

gavin may be tight-lipped but whether it is tight or loose, I will try to encourage students to have minimal regret~ there are many other issues that are in play concerning this~ how about the 3 years courses that the government is encouraging? look at Utar's accounting course, it's 3 years~ now take a look at MMu and u see the old system of 4 years~

yes, i agree with that.. but i think it's better if he could provide some reasons, facts, pros n cons between mmu and other universities, so that others can compare and decide which is better for them..

Erm can anyone answer me that?

LoL! I also wana know & also waiting for the reply. But I heard got people get reply from MMU already.

i get offer letter adi

of course u need to send your doc in time... or else your application progress will be halted..

u send early.. u get offer early... you send late.. you will get offer VERY late.. then the staff will blame u.. (kenapa hantar lambat!!??!!)

If i have a diploma in Telecommunication and i am interested in taking teh engineering in Telecommunication in MMU.
My question is, how many years can i skip in MMU?

It depends how many equivalent subjects you can credit transfer. Maybe you can cut down 1 year.

1 year and a few subjects in my opinion~ u have to ask and fill in form for credit transfer if not mistaken~

[quote=gavinfernando,Mar 22 2009, 12:11 AM]
Thank you for the information. May I ask, why did u recommend studying E&E Eng. in UNITEN instead of MMU?

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for electrical power and electrical and electronic offered in uniten, in terms of lecturer, facilities, and recognized... it is better...

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Added on March 22, 2009, 12:12 amTelecommunication Engineering take USM...

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USM dont have Telecommunication Engineering this course la..