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post Apr 13 2009, 12:51 AM

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QUOTE(kenixkenix @ Apr 13 2009, 12:07 AM)
if u double major shud be..
every subs is arranged for u ady n u dun hv slots for other electives dy
i oni major econs nt double major so not relli sure
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Not necessarily. Each major has got a certain number of subjects that you'll need to take. So if you're to double major, what it means is that you'll need to fulfill the required subjects for both majors. You may or may not have anymore slots, depending on your combination.


Added on April 13, 2009, 12:54 am
QUOTE(Eisenmeteor @ Apr 13 2009, 12:33 AM)
why not choose double major? Still pay same fees right? Still thinking on wat to study if I got admitted...
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its up to you really, but think about it, what exactly is a major anyways? its basically to state that you've taken enough subjects from a particular department for you to be considered that you've majored in that particular area. Basically, those in business needs at least one major. However the choice of whether to take on a second major or not also depends on your area of interest. Not doing a second major will give you more room to take other subjects across the different areas, or even from other courses (assuming that you can meet the requirements of the other courses). taking on subjects from IT or Communications had been a rather popular choice before.

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post Aug 26 2009, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(liptonpc @ Aug 25 2009, 08:23 PM)
hi everyone, I'm looking IT - Network Security courses. So i don't know Monash Uni is good with this courses? and...if i want go to monash campus form KLCC, how can i go?
Thanks.
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Personally I don't think that Network security related courses are suitable at the undergrad level, as such type of work involved revolves mainly around working experience with networks. And there's no way that its possible to cram enough content into a 3 year degree for such specializations. Hence its better to take something more fundamental for your undergrad degree, then look for professional certifications for the specializations.

From KLCC, I guess you can take the LRT to Kelana Jaya, then switch to the feeder bus that'll drop you off at the Pyramid. Correct me if I'm a bit off on this though, as I've not taken the feeder bus in years.


Added on August 26, 2009, 11:32 am
QUOTE(minshuen @ Aug 25 2009, 11:44 PM)
i wish to enter bachelor of pharmacy that was offered by monash university. is monash university malaysia campus offered twinning programme for pharmacy or i have to finish the entire programme in malaysia? hmm.gif
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Monash Malaysia is a full campus, hence the term 'twinning programme' does not really apply. However for courses that are offered in multiple campuses, you do have the option to transfer between campuses. But check with the relevant school for details on this, as each school will have different requirements in order for you to do the transfer.


Added on August 26, 2009, 11:34 am
QUOTE(Ice_Milo @ Aug 15 2009, 10:03 AM)
HI i am from singapore and i would like to apply for monash malaysia's engineering. i hv a dip from sg wif a gpa of 2.9. will they accept me? will i be exempted from yr 1 and be able to proceed to yr 2 onwards. and also, issit possible to transfer to the clayton campus on the third yr? meaning like totally transferring into AU and getting the same cert as them.
how will the cert and transcripts look like after graduating from sunway's campus? issit the same as the ones in clayton?
thanks so much for ur help. smile.gif
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On the getting into Monash and the exemptions, you'll need to give the engineering school a call and ask them yourself.

The cert and transcripts are the same regardless of which campus you're from.

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QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Aug 27 2009, 10:59 PM)
not sure how it works for the engineering school (but i can safely assume that it is the same across all schools).

yes, the certificate and transcript may print "monash university", but name of the degree and unit codes will give away your campus origins with ease.

i will quote my school and degree as an example.

in sunway, the business degree is called bachelor of business and commerce and its units are denoted by AFW, BTW et cetera.

over in clayton, commanding a slightly higher entry requirement, the equivalent is, bachelor of commerce and its unit are represented by AFC, BTC et cetera.

i was in at a career seminar, organised by monash university itself,  not long ago and a few reputable firms came to present talks and due to recessions, one of them, for the first time, is actually distinguishing applicants by campuses.
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The business school was one huge mess before, with each campus having their own differences. So far for FIT, its a bit easier, especially for Comp Sci, where the subjects are exactly the same, with the same subject code as well as in Clayton.
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QUOTE(baoz @ Sep 9 2009, 10:16 PM)
Sunway campus MUSA elections next week.

Cheer vs. Passion.

Vote!
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wow, so soon already? Anymore conspiracies like the previous years? smile.gif

but don't you think that the team names sound more like some sort of fruit cocktail drink?

and speaking of musa, did they ever managed to get that website of theirs back online?

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QUOTE(khai1213 @ Sep 19 2009, 01:30 AM)
I noticed that monash business and commerce degree doesn't come with honours. Would that devalue the student's cert? Without doing 1 year of honours, would u still get things like first class honours, second class upper in your cert? I have seen recruitment ads stating minimum requirement of second class upper, without an honours would that place me in a lower position than those who did uk twinning programme? (UK degrees always come with honours)
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This is because the Australian and the UK definition of honors is totally different.

In the Australian system, the extra honors year is not something that you can just go and enroll in, but is something that is offered to you only by invitation depending on how well you do in your undergrad years (usually the 2nd and 3rd year are taken into account).
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QUOTE(Dickong @ Oct 23 2009, 10:38 AM)
Hi, any senior in IT course can share some light of the course in monash, like better than any other existing local college becos the price we pay is about double than any other college n is it true becos of standard or the image.
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if you're asking about the Bachelor of IT, then I can't really tell much difference, apart from it being known as the course offered to those who don't qualify for the Bachelor of Comp Sci, or those who had dropped out of the Bachelor of Comp Sci.

If you're asking about the Bachelor of Comp Sci, then first read this to see the difference between IT and Comp Sci.

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=14992192

Now, there's very few places actually offering a proper Comp Sci course, and Monash is one of them. Check out the links in that post as well, especially this one: http://www.cs4fn.org/fundamentals/

Keep in mind though that Comp Sci at Monash tends to have up to a 30% dropout rate by the end of the first year.
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QUOTE(LalaBubbles @ Nov 16 2009, 12:46 AM)
does Monash,Sunway sent exam result to our postal address? tongue.gif
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The results will be given only to the person who's name is enrolled in Monash. In fact, even if your parents are to go over there to demand for your results, their request will not be entertained.

But do take note that this can be abused too.
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QUOTE(MaxReddevil @ Dec 3 2009, 09:03 PM)
I got 47 for a unit, can i appeal? any chances of passing?
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Only if its an elective. No such thing as NP for core subjects.
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QUOTE(CyberTroop @ Dec 4 2009, 03:04 PM)
Hello, are core subjects compulsory subjects such as business law and such?

Is my friend able to apply for NP for second year subjects which she is currently majoring in?

Thank you.
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Yes, core subjects are the compulsory subjects. Thus no, no such thing as a NP for any subject at all that forms part of your major.

Seriously though, try to imagine an example like this... a graduate with a major in perhaps, Biz Law & Taxation, but got NP for a law paper. damn weird right?
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QUOTE(mushroomgirl @ Jan 27 2010, 08:51 PM)
Hi, I've just enrolled myself into monash, doing Bachelor of Business and Commerce. Thing is, i've always intended
to do a 2 + 1. Two years in malaysia, and then the last year in aus, maybe clayton.
They said theres no such course in aus (?) and ill have to switch to Bachelor of Commerce for Clayton.
Then what abt my units? Some of the core units even looks diff from malaysia's one. Help?
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Both yes and no.

Yes in the sense that The Bachelor of Business & Commerce do exist in Australia. However its only offered at Berwick, Gippsland and the Peninsular campuses.

No in the sense that its not offered at Clayson that you're looking at. So yes, should you wish to go to Clayton, then you'll need to switch to the Bachelor of Commerce. Consult your school manager on this for more detailed information.


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QUOTE(ostangel @ Jan 27 2010, 09:02 PM)
mushroomgirl,

The course in the sunway campus and aus campus are basically the same, just that the name of the course is different? I'm not too sure, but I believe since you intend to transfer, the buesco school will have a talk regarding the issues you stated.

I'm not in a very good position to advise you, but this is what I gathered from my business friends and from reading this forum. blush.gif
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And no, the course name is not the same because the course contents are not the same. Bachelor of Business & Commerce and Bachelor of Commerce are 2 different courses with different entry requirements.

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QUOTE(Grimm @ Jan 27 2010, 11:27 PM)
There really is no such course in Australia

Clayton has - Bachelor of Commerce. Most of the time, you can only do a 1+2 to get here. For rare cases, you could do a 1.5+1.5. Most units here are different from Sunway.

Caulfield has - Bachelor of Business. You would need to do a 1+2 or 1.5+1.5 to get here. 2+1 is kind of hard, since most of the core units are different from Sunway.

The whole problem is, that the core major units are different from the Sunway campus one.
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Dude, there IS such a course in Australia. It just happened to be not at Clayton or Caulfield.

Its offered at Berwick, Gippsland & Peninsula.

http://www.monash.edu.au/study/coursefinder/course/2224/
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QUOTE(Grimm @ Jan 28 2010, 10:34 AM)
Gahhh! My bad! I forgot about the other 3 campuses. But people generally want to get into Clayton or Caulfield        if given a choice. :3

Anyway yeah, like nokia2003 said - SOME units you took as a core finance major might be only be treated as an elective. This might screw up your plans for majoring in certain fields.

So it is best not to come for 2+1. Many units are different. They have a larger variety of accounting and finance units in caulfield though. Some clayton friends come over to take electives because the choices at clayton are simply too narrow (especially for finance)  shakehead.gif
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yup, the first thing in ppl's mind is either Clayton or Caulfield, and that does mess things up quite a bit. But think about it, the mess is to be expected anyways, as wanting to get into these 2 campuses involves switching to a different course with different entry requirements. Which means that in order to make the switch, you'll need to have your grades at a certain level too (check with the school manager on the exact specifics)
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QUOTE(Grimm @ Jan 28 2010, 02:58 PM)
Exactly. This is the messed up part about Monash. Clayton and Caulfield campuses are like an upper-tier inside Monash University itself. Its like, they do not cater for the Bachelor of Business and Commerce degree for people from Sunway and South Africa.

Those taking a BBCom can only do some sort of a seamless internal transfer to Australia only to Gippsland, Berwick or Peninsula. In order to get into Caulfield and Clayton these are the things to be met:

1) Higher English proficiency (wth)
2) Higher Math proficiency (wth)
3) Better grades (hmm)
4) You apply as if you're coming from another university altogether - your course name is different, your unit names and codes are different, even if they were the same units, the syllabus in those units might be different and stuff like that.

I know, because I did the transfer. Company reporting AFW2491 (Sunway) and Company reporting AFF2491 (Caulf) had different syllabus, and other units are the same as well.

Can't they just integrate them all into one  vmad.gif

And then some degrees only available for locals : Bachelor of Accounting, Bachelor of Accounting and Finance. What we get is Bachelor of Commerce and Bachelor of Business  mad.gif  mad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif
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Its a legacy problem smile.gif And it used to be far worse too. Such consolidations are happening, but it takes time. But right now they're looking at converting the Bachelor of Business & Commerce at the Malaysian campus to the Bachelor of Commerce as in Clayton, and a delegation from Clayton was here last year for it. If it does happen, it also means that the entry requirement for the Malaysian campus is gonna shoot right up too.


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QUOTE(ostangel @ Jan 28 2010, 03:22 PM)
No problem for the FIT students because its the same across campuses biggrin.gif

mm, I think the respective campuses cater for the students in the country itself. Possibly, in Msia people like to do BBCom while in OZ, they either do BCom or whichever business courses are available.

Just my 2 cents.
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FIT used to be worse than BusEco actually, just that FIT managed to consolidate faster than BusEco managed to. Before the consolidation, the only courses that are identical are the Bachelor of Computer Science @ Clayton and Malaysia.


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QUOTE(blacktortoise @ Feb 11 2010, 11:53 AM)
anyone knows what is the student council fees for? why must i pay rm100 for it? anyone know anything about it?
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whoah! RM100 now.

Anyways, the fee is for the running of the Monash University Student Association (Malaysia), of which every single student is a member of. The misconception that a lot of ppl tend to have here is in the thinking that the fee is for the student council. Its not. Its for the student association. The student council is merely the elected body that governs the student association.

So hence, seeing that every single student needs to pay this fee, its also up to the students to ensure and pressure the student council to do their jobs right.
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Feb 20 2010, 12:47 AM)
I don't know much blush.gif  but the inter-campus transfer is like twinning right....1+2 or 2+1 right?
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Twinning is when you transfer between different universities.
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QUOTE(rhapsodie @ Feb 22 2010, 08:32 PM)
guys, i need an opinion...

which is a safer bet? doing 2 years in monash msia then apply for transfer to monash aus, with the risk of not maintaining an average of 65% and above?

or...

taking the taylor's twinning programme with uniSA, ditch the uniSA twinning if i score well and apply to monash aus.
lecturers wise i'd prefer monash's one i guess, but i dont know what happens if im not good enough at monash msia for a credit transfer x:
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either way its the same isn't it? You'll still need to do well enough.
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QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Feb 22 2010, 09:09 PM)
to add even more magnitude to my statement, even transferring/exchanging between monash campuses can be a major headache (in terms of unit compatibility)
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Not if you're to transfer into the same course once again. But this still brings up the question of, if you're not transferring into Clayton or Caulfield (of which both involves a change of course), then it might not be worth the effort.
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QUOTE(Imdarren @ Feb 24 2010, 12:15 AM)
The Monash Handbok that was supplied is soo confusing. I dont get what the "open electives" are. For my first semester, supposedly i have to take a least 4 common Core Units and 2 Electives. I don't get that part. Oh, and i'm from the business school  smile.gif
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Not too sure in regards to the open electives as per the business school, but I'll use the IT school as an example here.

In Comp Sci, there's 3 types of subjects:
- core
- elective (or Comp Sci electives)
- free/open elective

core subjects are well, the subjects compulsory to the course. you cannot escape these.

the electives are the subjects that you can choose from a given list of subjects

free/open electives are subjects that you can choose from anywhere. does not have to be an IT subject, it can even be a business or communications subject.

btw. do you mean 1st year or 1st semester? 'cause you can only do 4 subjects max in a semester, and there's also 6 common cores for the Bachelor of Business & Commerce. If in doubt, go and see your course manager right away on how to plan your subjects accordingly to your selected major. the last thing that you want is a mess up that results in you needing to do extra semesters to get your major.

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